Chelsea

Guy in my SG (spec) has a DM brute and swears by it in PVE as he says its does alot of cone damage,alot more than his other brute sets.

60% AoE 5% melee/ranged 3 slotted
VERY worth it.
I'd slot all you toggles with defence and if you want to scrap for abit 2 slot them with end reduxs,danger sense is very end heavy.

Lyssa lvl 50 nin/nin stalker is always ready
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This was some time ago on my Merc/traps MM in sirens ..some spines scrapper had been bothering me for awhile with impale and then jumping away, so i thought its time for some payback.
Filled a box on the oilrig near villain base with mercs and caltrops and tp foed the guy in.. he died quite quickly as you can imagine and i was met with a responce of "OMG i got TP'ed into a box full of pets ! I'm petitioning that because i had no chance of escaping"
Thats the whole idea !.

I'd like to point out that a huge amount of a stalkers AoE defence comes from hide 3 slotted.
/nin is like 60% AoE def (84% with danger sence)
/SR 60% odd AoE def
Not sure on the others tho
its lets you get close to those nasty spine scrappers

Edit: well you learn summat new everyday.. hide on all the sets are 60% 3 slotted

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For PvP, I'd personally get all the single target defenses in SR (toggles and passives, both ranged and melee) + Quickness, but wouldn't really bother with AoE or Aura defenses really... nevertheless i'd always get stealth and medicine pool no matter if I just can get 4-5 powers from energy pool (actually IMHO you don't need more, really)

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that mean you don't bother with any AoE defence at all ?

i get 8.8% on my hero builder for agile and dodge 3 slotted
max def i can get is 40.8 melee/ranged 96.8% AoE thats without slotting stealth for def coz nobody in there right mind would slot it for def anyway.

LR won't be enough to double stack it as LR's recharge is only about the same percentage as 1 recharge DO, you really need both hasten and LR.

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Agile and Dodge work extremely well in PvE (until you run upagainst a longbow balista that can almost 1 shot you).

Stealth and Invisible work against Enemy with high perception like Rikti drones. I love SR PvE, there's something satisfing about standing in a ring of enemy watching the dodge flash up over your head as they attack and then hiding while they all attack you. Just don't try it on Longbow, they can hit anything.

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This is untrue .. no amount of stealth will hide you from certain NPC's like rikti drones or KoA for example .. they will see right through and just wack you anyway.
So no its not needed in PVE.

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By all mean Rage is a potent power to have. Problems with Rage is the comedown afterwards.

In a PvP point of view...you'll find that you'll be unable to do anything offensive for about 10/12seconds and that your def is also reduced. Also when you have Rage with 3 Rechg Redux and running on auto, you won't have the +dmg advantage for the duration of the comedown period.

One question is why people don't take the AoE that comes with Elec armour? With the normal attacks you have in your primary coupled with the continuous ticks with the AoE, it will surely get you up Fury even faster?

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its all about burst dmg in pvp cap thats why SS is good with double stack rage it will out damage EM.
Even without the double stack it still out damages EM.

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I may shift hasten slightly earlier (for use in sirens), but I've got a full attack chain already with brawl, punch, haymaker, airsup and KO blow, without any recharge reductions, so your comment about lacking burst damage is fairly moot.

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Thats not what i ment.
The only good reason to take SS is double stacked rage .. ie 160% extra dmg 60% extra acc and thats unslotted acc.
see my point now.

hmmm
You do understand all about fury yes ?
I think your going to have alot of problems building any fury at all with no fast attacks and you've totaly ignored the main reason for taking SS in the first place which is ALOT of burst damage very quickly by taking hasten so late.
The extra run on swift is useless to.. think you gain a whole 2mph if your lucky per slot same with LR.if you want unsurpressed travel go for hurdle/CJ its faster !
And the least said about fly and grounded the better.
Powersurge: you do realise you could have 86% toxic res 3 slotting this with res enhancers yes ?
Static shield: Erm Psi res ! lots of Psi 40+

KO blow eats end like nobodys buisness and with you sheilds only being 1 slotted with end reduxs you will probably run out of end very fast even with conserve power (when its not up).i 2 slotted sheilds and KO blow.

3rd to-hit buff in rage gives like 6% or something low .. can't remember the figure off top of my head.

Web envelope: -recharge -jump -fly .. *cough*

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A word of advice (albeit a little late). Hero teams often go in with stacked tactics now as you have said, giving them stacked fear protection. Touch of Fear is only hitting maybe 1 time in 10 with my DM/DA stalker in Sirens.

Mind you it's only 1 slotted with an ACC.

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It gives fear resistance its not amatter of it not hitting you just need to stack fear to beat the fear resist

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you can't PVP without stealth and invis

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Yes, yes you can. But I'll not repeat my full argument, as different playstyles need different things.


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Well i don't want to get into the whole stealth pvp arguement but over here in the real world *cough* i mean defiant theres alot of spineys and AR/Dev blaster who just love to hunt invis-less stalkers.

you can't PVP without stealth and invis and i don't care what ppl say (its probably mostly heroes saying go without it) so i would go with stealth and invis.

well with all the scrappers taking tactics and FA 40% is nothing plus a spiney with BU and impale will have no problem beating it,then you have blasters with targeting drones and tactics.
my nin/nin has 30% def and gets hit all the time

i have an em/invul brute in the high 30's and its end heavy unless you double slot all toggles with end reds.
Also i skipped the passives in favour of aidself
i also skipped taunt,stun,whirling hands from em
take barrage as its a damn good fury building power as fury is based on hits you do not dmg you do so faster hits build more fury(fury builds even if you miss).

I'll leave you with my SG's mantra.

The more end you have the more hits you do.
The more hits you do the more fury you build.
The more fury you build the more damage you do.
The more damage you do the less end you use the longer you can fight.

Hide 3 slotted is 60% AoE defence for SR.(5% ranged 5% melee)
Evasion would add another 33% AoE defence and make it 94% AoE def.
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The max def i can get on a build is 40% melee 40% ranged 94% AoE.. problem is 40% won't stop ppl hitting you in PVP thats skipping the PPP's and aidself.

you can get away with dropping agile,dodge and evasion (evasion is AoE def but hide takes up the slack if 3 slotted)and taking 2 of the PPP's and stealth/invis but to get aidself/invis AND the PPP's is next to impossible without dropping some usefull powers.

I will give you a piece of advice tho .. in PVP you WILL get hit no matter how high you defence is.

oh please us defiance !.. i love 1 shotting defiance using AR/Dev's with my stalker lol
Defiance rules !

he probably spawned but you never saw him .. hes a sneaky bugger and will spawn ofshore but high in the air and with his stealth you have to be pretty close to spot him so you defo need flyers to scout around the island.

just a note but with hasten and crush you can spam crush every 2 seconds or so and put a huge amount of DoT on a target .. is allso good for stalkers to stop hide from coming back on.

swift+orignal slot = 21mph
swift+ 2 slots = 24mph

Sprint+orignal slot = 22mph
Sprint+2 slots = 26 mph

Lighting Reflexes+orignal slots = 21 mph
LR+2 slots = 24mph

Unslotted run powers 21+22+21 = 64mph
Slotted run powers 24+26+24 = 74mph

This is what you'd think but hero planer says -
all orignal slots
swift+sprint+LR = 36mph

3 slotted
Swift+Sprint+LR = 45mph

I'd take everything except the 2 element passives and take aidself.

EM is end hungry so slot for end reduxs and for the love of god don't take tough from the fighting pool as it will just end you.

he told you wrong .. its a good set for PVE and PVP
i would like to point out that brutes are NOTHING like tanks in CoH so don't go waiding into mobs and expecting to live.
stick with em/invul you'll enjoy it.