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NCsoft NorCal Studios is pleased to announce the pricing and details for the coming Optional Additional Character Slot feature. As we previously announced, we heard the request for a system to allow more characters on a single server and this is our answer. City of Heroes is a unique game that offers many playstyle options; options that are growing in a large way due to Powerset Proliferation and the addition of the Villain Epic Archetypes in the next free expansion, Issue 12: Midnight Hour. To accommodate playing more characters on your favorite server, we will be including the following features in Issue 12:[LIST][*] All current subscribers will receive 2 free character slots, each of which can be used on the specific server of their choice. This is to help you make new characters to take advantage of the new features of Issue 12, even if you already have maxed out your “home” server’s character slots.
[*] 1 free character slot will be granted retroactively on a yearly basis through the current Veteran Reward system. Every 12 months that a subscription is maintained will unlock an additional free character slot that the user can apply to the server of their choice. Thus, existing players will be eligible for up to 4 additional character slots at the launch of Issue 12. This will continue into the future for Veteran Rewards given out every 12 months, so you get another slot for 5 years, another one for 6 years, etc.

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He can heal people! Clearly he must be an Empath!



[/ QUOTE ]That's all he can do with his powers. He can't make things with them just restore living organic matter. sounds like empathy to me. Minus absorb pain ect.

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All he can do is heal. However Empaths in CoH can do much more than only heal. Your comparison falls apart right there.

Not only are Empaths NOT the only healers, Empaths are also not ONLY healers. Therefore the villain from Heroes is not NECESSARILY an Empath.

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3 of the powers in empathy are direct life point heals no other set has as many of these as empathy does

1 of the powers increases the inherent ability to heal

1 of the powers increases the rate one regain endurance, in other words *healing your personal stamina and decreasing your level of tiredness over time

1 frees your mind of any and all stress in other words *heals your mind

Fortitude is the only power in the set IRC that doesn't "heal" something and that isn't anywhere near enough to say that Lindermen is not a Pistols/Empathy corruptor

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Sure, his powers don't work the same as Empathy in City of Heroes, so perhaps Linderman is a better example.

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As far as I'm concerned this is pretty much a conceptual coffin nail in any argument that empaths aren't evil

Linderman is more or less a one man refutation of that whole position.

Sure call it something else... change absorb pain for another power, but basically... same set, just used for different goals.

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He can heal people! Clearly he must be an Empath!



[/ QUOTE ]That's all he can do with his powers. He can't make things with them just restore living organic matter. sounds like empathy to me. Minus absorb pain ect.

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Thanks for answering these questions!

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"So, Lighthouse, any chance of us finding out what-all powers are in Mental Manipulation?” – Bitt Player



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I'm, uh, interested to see how all those powers might be toned down, because if they haven't been, that sounds like the best Blaster secondary ever created, by a factor of 5.



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“WHY NO EMP FOR CORR?” – ELF_STALKER



Empathy isn’t a villainous trait, generally speaking.

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I'd like to introduce you to a Marvel villain named Empath.

Sure, his powers don't work the same as Empathy in City of Heroes, so perhaps Linderman is a better example.

You may argue "oh, but those are only two villains among many". My response would be, "and how many 'healer' heroes are there in superhero fiction?" I don't think there are all that many more than there are villains.

I love you guys, but powers do not a villain make. Villainy is about how you use your powers (if you have any), not about what powers you have. Healing other villains specifically so that they can continue committing crimes and atrocities is evil.

It's great that you plan to give a similar set to villains with a different theme, so I'm not exactly complaining, here. I'm just not buying the "Empathy isn't for villains" line, and I think it's really weird for a group of people that I know are superhero fans and read comics to be saying something like this. Empathy, as the human trait, may not be a villainous trait, but I don't think that's what the powerset represents unless I missed that somewhere in the set's description.

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Castle said, “No, never!” and Positron said, “Yes, do it!” In the end, the decision of which sets to give everyone bounced back and forth multiple times. The next question is, “Why did Castle say no?!” At the time, he wanted each AT to keep certain sets so they were only found on that AT – Ninjitsu for Stalkers, Elec/Elec for Brutes, Ice/Ice for Tankers, etc. Ultimately, that concept was set aside later in the process, but some aspects of it remained in the initial pass of Proliferation.

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I hope that concept is abandoned completely. I will never understand why you'd want to restrict character concepts like that. What's so wrong about allowing someone to play a hero (Tanker or Scrapper) with melee electric powers?

EDIT: I misread that as "that concept was set aside for later". If you have already set it aside, please ignore my comment, and replace it with "hurrah!"

Sorry that I'm only elaborating in the negative, the rest of the answers were great!

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But Villains don't get APPs

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PP is perfect chance to correct that injustice

I like PoPr but I am not that much a fan of the power picks
Mace/Elec and Ninja/Storm are the only ones I plan on using


-pls pls pls share APPs between tanks and scrappers and share them with brutes and stalkers.

-Share Blaster and Defender Apps with Cors, Doms and MMs Controller APPs with MMs

-Share Controller APPs with MMs

Yes you read that right give MM players the choice to choose between Defender, Controller and Blaster exclusive APPs. MMs all play differently and as such are one of the most versatile ATs in the game. Those 3 Different AT exclusive APP types would all complement MMs in different ways.


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I'm a little disappointed. I thought the idea behind powerset proliferation was not only to expand each AT's powerset selection, but to give access to powersets the other side didn't have.

Blasters are getting a defender blast, but also an entirely new set
Brutes getting two primaries from tankers
Controllers getting a dominator set and a corruptor set
Corruptors getting defender sets
Defenders getting corruptor sets
Dominators getting a controller set and blaster set
Masterminds getting a defender set


But scrappers are getting tanker sets?
Tankers are getting scrapper sets?
Stalkers are getting brute sets?


What the hell?


There is no electric/electric representation on the heroside, so why not port that over to either tankers or scrappers? There's no ice melee and ice armor reprentation villainside, so why not port that over to stalkers?

I mean, if I want a fire/fire melee hero, I could just build a tanker. And if I want an elec/elec melee villain, I could just make a brute.


I'd really love to know what the reasoning behind the choices for these 3 ATs were.

And no, this isn't just whining for the sake of whining. I'm not entirely thrilled with some of the choices they made for the other ATs, but at least with those they're really spreading the love around. Ice controllers get no love while fire controllers do. MMs get only one secondary while brutes get two primaries and a secondary... I get that there are no other pet powerset ATs to share over to MMs, but at least they could have gotten two secondaries to compensate. Still, at least the one set they got they got came from the hero side and wasn't just another villain set.



[/ QUOTE ]I gotta agree with this sentiment they could have thrown in /kin for MMs and that would have easily made up for the fact that they're aren't any pet sets they could port to MMs. Also electric blast for Cors? Meh it isn't a bad choice but I was hoping beyond hope that Archery would make the cut

Ninja/Kin
Ninja/Storm
Archery/Kin

would have been some badaz combinations aw well there is still VEATs to keep me interested in I12

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To clarify the person you quoted, scrappers are getting brute sets, not necessarily tanker sets.

But can you imagine the carnage from a MM with all pets out and hitting fulcrum shift? Plus all your pets speed boosted? The devs have said that they are not ready for MM to get /kin just yet.

[/ QUOTE ] eh Fire/Fire was a Tank combo long before it was ever available for brutes and swapping one power isn't enough to reclassify it as a brute set

Unlike say fire imps that only have one power, fully upgraded MM pets have like 6-10 powers and they're isn't that much of a gap between the end of one attack cycle and the begining of the next

THUS it would not be as powerful a combination as any doom sayer says

Uhh does COH really need any more camp cornyness? I mean really isn't it bad enough that Freedom Corps the premier ingame hero group is a bunch of spandex wearing lame-os(they better not be the next EAT)

Just tell us we have an option of turning off visual sounds.

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I'm a little disappointed. I thought the idea behind powerset proliferation was not only to expand each AT's powerset selection, but to give access to powersets the other side didn't have.

Blasters are getting a defender blast, but also an entirely new set
Brutes getting two primaries from tankers
Controllers getting a dominator set and a corruptor set
Corruptors getting defender sets
Defenders getting corruptor sets
Dominators getting a controller set and blaster set
Masterminds getting a defender set


But scrappers are getting tanker sets?
Tankers are getting scrapper sets?
Stalkers are getting brute sets?


What the hell?


There is no electric/electric representation on the heroside, so why not port that over to either tankers or scrappers? There's no ice melee and ice armor reprentation villainside, so why not port that over to stalkers?

I mean, if I want a fire/fire melee hero, I could just build a tanker. And if I want an elec/elec melee villain, I could just make a brute.


I'd really love to know what the reasoning behind the choices for these 3 ATs were.

And no, this isn't just whining for the sake of whining. I'm not entirely thrilled with some of the choices they made for the other ATs, but at least with those they're really spreading the love around. Ice controllers get no love while fire controllers do. MMs get only one secondary while brutes get two primaries and a secondary... I get that there are no other pet powerset ATs to share over to MMs, but at least they could have gotten two secondaries to compensate. Still, at least the one set they got they got came from the hero side and wasn't just another villain set.



[/ QUOTE ]I gotta agree with this sentiment they could have thrown in /kin for MMs and that would have easily made up for the fact that they're aren't any pet sets they could port to MMs. Also electric blast for Cors? Meh it isn't a bad choice but I was hoping beyond hope that Archery would make the cut

Ninja/Kin
Ninja/Storm
Archery/Kin

would have been some badaz combinations aw well there is still VEATs to keep me interested in I12

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[/ QUOTE ]Any reason why the quoted example isn't doable? I am sure there are many players who would love the ability to customize Henchmen

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As excited as I am about the Roman armor costume pieces, I am disappointed that they are unlockable. I'd love to have a toon be Roman-themed from lvl 1. Would it be possible to have 1 set of Roman armor available from character creation, with the rest being unlockable? Please? Pretty please?

[/ QUOTE ]I second this. Please give us the "lorica segmentus" no frills and make the other options time locked if you must.

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Here is your big opertunity to fix all the worthless POS Vet Rewards from 45 months to 3 months.

What are ya gonna give out? Cuz except for Respecs, Nem Rod/Black Wand and Sands of Mu.. The rest were pretty much worthless..

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In your opinion. The base teleporter, team teleport, and most of the costume pieces have served one or more of my characters multiple times.

[/ QUOTE ]Ok guys lets not do this...

The devs made what they made lets not argue about which has value and which doesn't lets instead argue for the ability to choose which has worth on an individual basis so that we only get the rewards we like most or rather, dislike the least. If the game is going to be sattled with the vet reward system I think that is atleast reasonable compromise for all sides of this much debated issue.

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My gut reaction: Why?

And: er, this is superhero/villain how, exactly?

At this point, we should cheer with desperate joy ANY new terrain to this game---never mind the fact that the zones we've asked for, for well nigh 4 years have been completely ignored---because anything to relieve the oppressive tedium is vital.


Once more and with emphasis, I question the design decision to completely disregard the blatant preferences of the customer base in favor of yet more, IMO, unimaginative and run-of-the-mill non-superhero content. Am I detecting some sort of insidious hubris at work, here? Or just a serious lack of options due to the restrictive coding? Or both? Or something completely different?

0_O?

Cal2

[/ QUOTE ]Blatant preferences? Hah don't be so full of yourself not only do you not have your finger on the pulse of the general populace but your clearly oblivious to popular trend on these forums as well. Corny tights capes side of the Hero genre has been covered more than satisfactorily enough and it seem that is the popular conscensus.

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Thank you, Juno, Minerva, and Back Alley Brawler.

I have literally dozens of characters who have been urgently needing this, or limping by with the Enforcer chest detail or one of the Samurai ones, as poor substitutes for a lorica segmentata or sculpted cuirass. Skirts with pteryges, even!

[/ QUOTE ]Yup Yup Yup my Seraph character is definetly getting an upgrade to Lorica Segmenta. I only hope that the helmets come with the option of not having the horse brush thing.

Very very nice, I always wanted to have a targetting drone follow me around on technoligical alts other than those of the maligned /devices type and I think wisps are the coolest Mobs in croatoa. Too bad as things stand I'll never ever get a chance to use em, the Boxing shorts and probably the veteran range powers!!!

If so much time is going to be spent on costumes that will only end up being commandeered by the vet system and if so much attention is going to be put on additions to that content time lock gimmick there really, really needs to be a per alt system of vet reward choices.

Atleast that way there may still be stuff you want but don't have access to but everything you do have is something you want. As Opposed to the mismash of stuff you may want on certain alts and stuff you will never want for any alt.

The Trenchcoat? Isn't . I only have one character out of 24+ current alts and counless alts who have been deleted who could use a jacket with a cape attached at the back. Regardless of that fact the Trenchcoat still takes up space as useless filler in my list of rewards.

***All I am saying is before more time and work goes into Vet rewards and more costume pieces get commandered by the vet reward gimmick Please Please Please let us choose which rewards we want preferebly on a per alt basis.


I appologize for the rant it wasn't intended to be so large.

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For those Robotics masterminds that are tired of your henchman following you around making all that noise...

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/sign but they should be choosable inherents like nem staff or ghost axe

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er, perhaps I missed something in the 47 pages...what power sets won?

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this is what Lighthouse had to say in the Announcement section
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We want to thank everyone who participated in the recent Power Set Polls! Those polls have been closed. We received thousands of votes and a lot of great feedback and ideas from the ensuing discussion!

Please keep in mind that these polls are for informational purposes. We can certainly see that powersets are very interesting to the game’s player base and that is a strong factor for the team in considering future features. The results of the polls will only be seen by the Development Team. We know that won’t excite anyone, but we don’t want to tacitly endorse any one set.

We would like to reiterate that these powersets are not for Issue 10. We are nearly locked down with that issue already. Consideration for future power sets are for an Issue beyond #10 and will be included for as many archetypes as it makes sense for.

Thanks again to everyone who voted!

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"Please keep in mind that these polls are for informational purposes. We can certainly see that powersets are very interesting to the game’s player base and that is a strong factor for the team in considering future features. The results of the polls will only be seen by the Development Team. We know that won’t excite anyone, but we don’t want to tacitly endorse any one set."

Thats a real scumbag move. Scumier even than tying new costume pieces into the Veteran and Invention systems.

Seriously WTHITS?

Im not a fan of the invention system its just a big massive time sink and inf sink to get the benefits you want. You only get set bonuses when set enhancements are placed in the same power? Lame! Cant use the same set enhancement multiple times in one power? Lame! New costume pieces that are tied into the invention system instead of just being available for character creation from the start like in the past??? Lame! I9 gets 2 big thumbs down from me.

I wonder why they reopened this thread.

Yeah what he said, we demand results now

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ok ok ok know that I have had several cups of coffee!!!!!
Talk about way cool!!!
Lets say when you reach level (really high number) you can spec a char whose powers freely roam all the power sets. same number of powers but regardless of archetype.

Imagine a a Katana scrapper who can hurl a ball of lightning and shrug off an attack with a deflection shield?

huh? huh? huh? well? whaddya think?

The easily excitable yet creative,
Scotch Guard

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The game used to be something kinda like that. Way back before release. They changed it because you could make toons that were either completely gimped or totally overpowered. Don't look for this to ever happen.

[/ QUOTE ] even so they could open up the EPPs so they offer more variety scrappers only get 3 of those too.

As for the melee power pools i voted Dual Blades and Hammer but i would probably be happy with any of the pools other than street fighting, shield fighting and any kind of western style ball and chain melee.

You know i was thinking of suggestig something like this but specificly for MA the king of middle of the road. Its not the king of ST damage(burst or maintained) it IS the worst at dealing aoe damage and its users can't agree on how to go about fixing it. The ability to customize one power in its set to the desires of its user would help improve the set. I am not against giving a customized power to everyone though.
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I posted this in the Test Server Board.

You can use copy color to all when you have the trenchcoat on just change to another costume piece before deselecting change color to all. No need to reset the game.

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We were all newbies at one point. You just need to have patience with them. Giving out constructive criticism can really help someone out.

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