Brillig

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  1. Bah. Technically my bid won, but whatever.

    Good job Ravenwolf on being a jerk and killing the fun for everyone.
  2. no spiking 101M on virtue
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by FunstuffofDoom View Post
    No, I insist on Steelclaw's virtue.

    75 Million.
    You can have his virtue.

    I still want his base.

    100M.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dasher View Post

    What we create, we own. When we paint a picture of an original subject of our own design, it is not the property of the companies that make the canvas, or the brushes, or even the paints. The medium is irrelevant to the ownership of the result of the creative act.

    And so it goes...
    Interesting but not strictly relevant. If you were following the context, the individual would have had to have won his claim after taking action that could reasonably be seen as having given over his intellectual property to the company.

    Obviously, that would not have been the case in a pitch meeting.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Obsidius View Post
    I remember when the game was so new we didn't have "Back in the Day" threads.
    I remember when the game was so new that "Back in the Day" threads were about other games...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Neuronia View Post
    <snip>WALKED<snip>WALKED<snip>WALKED<snip>WALKED<s nip>WALKED<snip>
    Except we RAN because no one could WALK.

    That's right, we RAN everywhere, none of this takin yer time balderdash.

  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja View Post
    I believe that position will be held by a certain company's ReadID decision (regardless of their quick about-face on that one.)
    There's a reason why I said "one of the dumbest" and not "the dumbest".

    There's always room for debate at the top.

    RealID vs NGE: FIGHT!
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilRyu View Post
    I was thinking this would be one of the best times to do this so people can see what the game actually has to offer if they didnt stay subbed. While they couldnt do the praetorian stuff they could how teaming will be so much better with server transfers and the mix of ATs from both sides of the game outside of the co-op zones.
    Funny. I think this would be one of the worst times to do something like this. Between everyone playing more than usual, and the merger of the markets, the instability of the global servers... adding more people to the mix would be one of the dumbest decisions in MMO history.

    What they should do is wait a month or so for things to settle down, then start pushing the new Praetorian experience with trials.
  8. I think if there is hope, it's in this.

    There are some absurdly wealthy people in the world. All it takes is one of them (or perhaps a handful) to make things happen.

    But governments seem like a long-shot.
  9. I'm pulling whatever is convenient and screenshotting the rest.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tyrrano View Post
    Companies write EULAs like this one mainly to protect themselves. In NCSoft's case, it helps them defend lawsuits like the Marvel one. While it might seem to let them take ownership of a character, in reality using it that way would be far too expensive. Would NCSoft really want to spend millions to gain the property rights to, for instance, Harry Dresden? It's just not something that'd be profitable for them in the end.
    Relying on the practicality and good sense of others is a bad idea when it comes to protecting your livelihood. Especially when lawyers are involved.

    The smart thing to do is not to open the door.
  11. Interesting info...

    It's possible that he was speaking facetiously. It's also possible that he worked out the legals ahead of time with NCSoft. It's even possible that he's doing something alarmingly stupid.

    It seems like a move with very small upside and potentially unlimited downside.
  12. No, I can't show you a case where a company has claimed ownership of a character owned by someone else.

    Can you show me a case where the previous owner has successfully defended a claim against a company?

    I doubt there's any case law on the point. That being the case, I wouldn't take the risk, personally. Your tolerance for risk may be different, and informed by the value of the copyrights in question.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by seebs View Post
    Okay, worth knowing.

    BTW, I don't know of anything saying that ownership of characters would transfer to the people running the MMO, and I suspect they'd run into a horrible nest of legal trouble if they actually tried to assert any such thing. That is, in general, simply not how copyright works. You can claim an implicit license up to a point, but it's surprisingly hard to transfer copyright no matter what anyone says.

    In any event, since I've created the same character in another MMO and CoH, they can go sue each other. :P
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Terms of Service
    (c) Member Content. Members can upload to and create content on our servers in various forms, such as in selections you make and characters, certain additions to the game world, and items you create for the Game(s), and in bulletin boards and similar user-to-user areas ("Member Content"). By submitting Member Content to or creating Member Content on any area of the Service, you (i) you represent and warrant that you have the necessary rights to submit such Member Content; (ii) the Member Content does not infringe the proprietary rights of any third-party, including intellectual property rights; and (iii) acknowledge and agree that such Member Content is the sole property of NC Interactive. To the extent that NC Interactive cannot claim exclusive rights in Member Content by operation of law, you hereby grant (or you warrant that the owner of such Member Content has expressly granted) to NC Interactive and its related Game Content Providers a non-exclusive, universal, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicenseable right to exercise all rights of any kind or nature associated with such Member Content, and all ancillary and subsidiary rights thereto, in any languages and media now known or not currently known. You shall indemnify and hold NC Interactive and its affiliates harmless from and against any claims by third parties that your Member Content infringes upon, violates or misappropriates any of their intellectual property or other proprietary rights.
    It's your funeral.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by seebs View Post
    A friend of mine, who has written books, was thinking about playing a character from one of those books in CoH.

    The ToS appear to prohibit the use of characters-which-are-owned. Does that apply even if you're the owner, or have the owner's written permission?
    Your friend would be well advised not to do this whether or not it's permitted. Remember, characters created on an MMO server become the intellectual property of the company that runs the MMO. If the person who actually owns the trademark/copyright, of their own volition, created that same character on an MMO server, that could well be seen as voluntarily abandoning their trademark/copyright at the very least. And possibly assigning said rights to the company.

    Your friend should probably consult a lawyer, but based on my knowledge, this is a really, really bad idea.

    (Anyway, if said friend is creative enough to write books, coming up with an original character should be no big deal, right?)
  15. Brillig

    Just for fun.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frogfather View Post
    All things considered I dont think his response is really in the trolling, hate-filled rhetoric, name-calling category. Rereading the hostile responses (deserved or not is immaterial) its actually pretty understandable.

    --Frog
    *shrug*

    He's the one who wanted to start a snark-free thread. Regardless of other people's responses (and I do agree, he was provoked), the only actions he can control are his own.

    If he's going to make a big deal out of it, he may as well set an example.
  16. Brillig

    Just for fun.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eryq2 View Post
    Ok, without name calling, flaming, hate,
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eryq2 View Post
    Well, if you don't like it, don't look at it or post on it. Easy. Most of the posts in this section are about the same thing anyway, just from "buddies". So, go away.
    So I guess the initial resolution only lasted seven posts.

    Who had seven in the pool?
  17. Does anyone know how morality changes affect leveling pacts? If at all?
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
    Has anybody ever been able to explain just how exactly a Tax is Value Added?
    The tax doesn't add value, it's a tax that's assessed on the value added by the business process.

    Just like income tax doesn't create income for you.

    Duh.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
    I hadn't gotten into beta yet when that was tested, but from what I read, market fees are returned when your item is delisted.
    Thanks for the info. So I guess it's a choice between losing the fee, or potentially losing the item do to snafu and having to dance with support...
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by macskull View Post
    I guess, at the very least, do the smart thing and pull all your market items and emails before this goes live. There was a test of the market merge on the beta server a while back, and while it went mostly okay, there were a few people who reported losing market items and almost everyone who had emails with attachments lost them also.

    Oh, and to answer that nagging question: you will not lose inf if you have more than 2 billion locked up in bids.
    Hmm, I guess this means that market listing fees are forfeited in the merge?
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by macskull View Post
    Basically, these changes are going to cause the prices on pool C/D recipes to floor. Purples and PvP IOs will be largely unaffected. I'd say "start selling your rares" but I'm sure it's probably too late by this point.
    I agree with this in principle. I don't think this will change the supply of purples at all, prices would have to crash terribly before it would be worth getting one purple instead of 10 LOTGs.

    Which is not to say it couldn't happen. I have full confidence in the ability of the market to confound expectations. (Seems like something E.F. Hutton should have said.)
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    A misunderstanding of the point I was trying to make. Supply is so low, that people who really wanted the IOs at a lower level, go away and buy them at 50 instead because they really can't be bothered to wait 3 months for the next level 33-38 one to turn up and block 6 market slots because you can't bid on a range of levels.
    No, I understood the point you were trying to make. What you're misunderstanding is it's not the supply that's low, it's the demand.

    It's a chicken and egg thing. There are people that want certain IOs, can't find them and then 'give up'. Because there are no buyers, there are no sellers. But the problem and the solution starts with DEMAND. When players start to pay nine figures for mid level IOs and that gets reflected in the history, other players step up to supply those IOs. But as long as people get discouraged and walk away, no one will be incented to create the suppply.

    That's why these mid-level IO projects are ultimitely futile. The created IOs transact for amounts too low to move people off of the default behavior of supplying primarily level 50 IOs.
  23. Back on topic, it seems like this new currency will become the preferred way of getting recipes, if SwellGuy's numbers are right. Even at 90 min/AM, that's 3 hours for one of the high value uniques.

    200-250 merits in 3 hours? Don't see how that's possible.

    The conversion also establishes an interesting number - since 1 AM = 100 merits (for purposes of argument - it buys 5 random rolls, or half a 200 merit unique, etc).

    1 AM also is 50 merits + 20,000,000 inf.

    so if the value/merit exceeds 400,000 inf, it pays to convert merits to AM otherwise not.