Blind_Minotaur

Great work so far Echo!! I cant wait to see the finished versions. So is the plan for one group pic? Or are you doing individual pics as well as a group shot? (oh and CC is missing a few wrinkles )

(I know I already posted in the Dom thread but what the hey)

Isn't it supposed to come out at dusk? I've still never seen it so can't be sure.

Giving Corruptors and MMs Powerboost in their PPPs, giving Brutes and Stalkers Foccussed Acc in their PPPs and fixing Fury might go a little way to resotoring balance. I'd also like to see Empathy for MMs (maybe even corruptors) and Illusion for Doms. Do that and villains might have a chance.

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Eng/ scrappers would be absolutely broken unless they're in some way totally different to the eng/ on the other characters. A scrapper with crits and huge stuns? No thanks.

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I'm certain that if it did come to Scrappers then the chance to crit would be removed from Energy Transfer. Would still be a very powerful set though.

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Wow! Thats very impressive on an EA. By "fully IO'd up" do you mean common IOs or set IOs? I know i would stand no chance of doing that with my energy/energy. I have two other brutes, a /wp and a /electric, both appear to have far more survivability than my /energy. Would you agree that, despite exaggeration on EA's gimped-ness, it still underperforms in comparison to other brute secondaries?

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Mostly set IOs but with a few common IOs and a few HOs.

I think the main reason it falls behind the other secondaries is that it doesnt have a heal or a taunt aura - easily fixed by picking Aid Self and Taunt though.

Built the right way EA can become very survivable. I'll post some numbers when I get home.

EA is commonly seen as a gimp set (especially if you read the US boards). I just dont get it. OK so the base values aren't great, and it's typed defense rather than positional. I dont have any problems soloing 3 player maps with my EA on Relentless (Invincible) against any enemy except renegade vanguard - and that's without even needing to use Overload!

I dont have tough or weave in my build but I do have all the passives and energy cloak. I am also fully IO'd up so that helps too. I'll post some defense numbers that I get from my build when I get home.

OK so it's completely pants in PvP (but who seriously PvPs with a defense set anyway??) but it is more than fine in PvE in my opinion.

Mind you I wouldn't say no to a buff for EA

I dont think I've ever seen it used! I've heard it's not that bad but then because there are so many great powers in Dark Miasma its not suprising nobody ever picks it.

I've been toying with the idea of getting it for my MM. Would be handy for those moments when your pets are almost wiped out as you can buy yourself valuable setting up time.

Personally I wouldnt even consider it for a corruptor (all you'll end up doing is irritating your team mates).

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If you changed your Patron pool to mace you could get another defense based shield and put another lotg +recharge in it. Looking at the price of this build one more wont hurt

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LMFAO @ DEF SHIELDS ON DOMS

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[censored]? Psiko had already picked Weave with the sole purpose of putting in a LOTG +recharge. What I was suggesting was pick up the Patron shield for that reason. I didn't for a moment say that Defense shields were any good on a dom did I?

And what do you know, your very next post, with your build in it had Weave with a single LOTG +Recharge in it. LMFAO.

If you changed your Patron pool to mace you could get another defense based shield and put another lotg +recharge in it. Looking at the price of this build one more wont hurt

Grav/Psi is not a good solo choice. You will have a very hard slog to 38 and then you'll just wish for bigger mobs.

Plant is a very good choice for a new dominator. So many great powers. With Creepers and Seeds you can solo most mobs in relative safety.

Thorns isnt a bad secondary to go with plant (especially from a theme point of view) and it is the only set to get Aim.

As for other secondaries its worth considering fire for fiery embrace (and just great damage in general) or energy and ice for powerboost. Domination + powerboost is just great.

Personally I'd say Plant/Ice or Plant/Fire for a new dom player.

Personally I skip them and pick up extra powers from the primary, secondary and pools. The only brute I'd consider getting patron powers for would be a fire brute due to the burn+immob combo. All the others I find better value in the existing powers.

I had a completely dumb moment and thought i'd pop to the black market before taking on Hammy and of course it kicked me from the TF

Really sorry guys. Hope you managed to kick Hammy's wobbly backside.

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Looks like there will be room. I think the controller might be best option at the mo

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If there's going to be a troller I'll bring my Brute (he's built to beat on Rikti anyway). My grav/psi dom gets laughed at by rikti and my fire dom just causes chaos

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Seriously tho, if Sorm Summoning is a Controller Secondary but a Defender Primary, why does Plant control have to come across to Heroes as a Primary set JUST coz its that way on the Red side?

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Because Plant is a control set and CoH only has one AT that has access to control sets and that's trollers - so it has to be a primary.

MMs are only getting a new secondary. Doms are getting a new primary and secondary. I'm also guessing Earth but I have no idea what the secondary could be for a dom because they have secondaries that are a mixture of melee and range with some utility.

Sign me up. I can bring a Brute, Dom or Scrapper. Let me know what would be best.

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I never realised that my bind was so popular

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Bind is popular, you still suck though.

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Shame DS doesn't work on team mates...

I never realised that my bind was so popular

DS is a great utility power and I only really use it when I've made a judgement call that the team is in over it's head. Sometimes you make a bad call and fire it off when it's not needed - but it's not necessarily a bad thing villain-side. Doms can build domination from intangible enemies, brutes can maintain fury, stalkers can use the time to get back into hide, MMs can use it to resummon or buff pets and corruptors can, erm, twiddle their thumbs.

Some people use DS as a way of thinning out the mob by not slotting it for acc so that it will take a few enemies out of the fight. I personally prefer it to take out an entire group.

Also it's one of the few powers in the game that you can actually increase the magnitude of. I have 3x intang enhancements slotted and can easily phase an AV/Hero when domination is up. Very useful if your team stumble into an AV and they're not ready.

It has its uses solo too. For example, if you have a tough EB fight ahead of you and dom isnt ready you can hit the EB with DS and build domination in total safety.

Can you tell I love DS?

I'd much rather they got mace and/or axe. I rolled a Fire/mace tank the other day and couldn't help thinking how much more fun it would have been with fury. The old thinking of Brutes cant have weapons because they would be detrimental to fury has obviously fallen to the wayside (with them being given DB).

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Oh it was you who paid 66 million for my IO?

The fruits of your labour and my lucky dice roll are now on Crazy Cartomancer - now sporting three more Ragnarok recipes

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Yep almost 100% certain that it was me; bought 1 crafted and 2 recipes. I've been saving up for a while for my last three LotGs and to be honest I got fed up watching the prices crawl steadily up over the last couple of months (one went for 100 mil on Friday ).

Glad my hard earnt inf went to someone I know and that i'll benefit from the results in the Dom team

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Was alot of fun so thanks for setting it up Nine and very happy with the inf made on that LotG +Recharge IO

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You could have set a lower reserve on that I bought the last 3 on the market last night and completely exhasted my savings. Could have just handed the cash straight to you!!

So they changed Rage.

I'm really pleased with what they did in the end. You can still use all your powers (-999% damage) except temps during the crash. Still has a -25% end and a -20% base defense penalty but there is no debuff to recovery.

Been playing my SS on live and not having to stand there like a lemon for 10 seconds every time rage goes down makes such a difference! Brilliant for my Brute to keep that fury nice and high.

Now if they would take anoter look at the -20% defense

I didnt realise that you got 0% recovery and the crash as well. That is harsh.

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Ok, Dimension Shift – Again I say ignore the naysayers. If you take it, and look at every situation wondering how you could use it, then all of a sudden it becomes a dynamite power. (Especially solo.) It’s on a decent recharge, and needs no slotting.

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Wow someone else who likes DS

I use it differently to you though. DS is my ultimate panic button. I have a couple of binds set up to warn the team its being used. I do slot it, I want it to hit everything when I fire it because I'm using it as a last resort. DS is one of the only powers in the game that you can increase it's magnitude with slotting. With 3 Intang Enhances + Domination you can actually make AVs intangible

Grav/Psi is a rewarding combo to play and as others have said it really is a late bloomer. The unmissable powers imo are wormhole, the aoe hold, sing, mind probe, drain psyche and the best of the lot; Psi shockwave.

I only play my dom in a team and can imagine that grav/psi would be a frustrating toon to solo especially against psi resistant mobs. In a team you will have loads of fun controlling the battlefield then running into melee, hitting drain psyche and spamming psi shockwave like a madman.

Edit - Oh and why oh why would you get Propel for a Dominator for anything other than comic value?

Please also consider that SS is a Brute primary and the 10 seconds you cant hit stuff is a massive penalty to maintaining a decent level of fury.

I'd be very suprised if there was a Tank or Brute build out there that couldnt stand still for 10 seconds without hitting things, just running toggles, without running out of end.

Now if thats the case and your build forces you to stand there and do nothing then aren't you in exactly the same position as you were before?

Now in reality there are so many options for reducing the end cost of toggles that it should be easy for even a decent build to stand there with toggles on and fire off taunt each time it recharges.

I'll take that as opposed to being able to hit diddly squat for 10 seconds, lose 25% of my end bar and also -25% defense (killer for defense based brutes and tanks).