BellaStrega

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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
    I'm going to assume that the "list" isn't presented in a nice, consolidated list format, but rather as some multi-page and likely gallery-slideshow-esque irritation. And thus I won't bother clicking it.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it was missing gems like Farscape and Brisco County Jr., either, given that by accounts in this thread it seems to be missing the likes of Babylon 5 (not a show I cared for, personally, but certainly worthy of being on such a list). Between that and the probable format, it's likely not a worthwhile list.
    It has Farscape, but not Brisco County, Jr. as well as Babylon 5.

    Some of the shows seemed fairly mainstream to me and thus not so much "cult." Like Supernatural and Star Trek: The Next Generation.
  2. It is definitely available on Netflix streaming. They keep telling me to watch it.
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    Originally Posted by SlickRiptide View Post
    So if we remove the one word "swarthy" then the story is no longer racist?
    Nope. My statement did not hinge upon that one word. Making a point about its removal doesn't really illustrate that the text isn't racist.

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    Oh, and please don't pass judgement on my ability to "look for" this or that, and I'll extend you the same courtesy for your ideas.
    I did not pass judgment. I pointed out that you seem to be ignorant about the topic. People in general tend to be ignorant about all kinds of topics. It happens.

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    Let me ask you this: If you knew nothing at all about Lovecraft and you read The Street with "virgin" eyes, would you still see "swart sinister men" as some kind of racist comment on the people moving into the neighborhood after the original inhabitants moved out?
    The entire story is about white Anglo-Saxon people creating an awesome nation and immigrants tearing it down and ruining it. I am not sure how the racist themes are avoidable. If all of the racist elements were removed you wouldn't even have a story.
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    Originally Posted by SlickRiptide View Post
    It's easy to say "racist" and dismiss the fact that Lovecraft lived a long time in Red Hook himself and his descriptions of the place are impressions of his everyday experience. It seems to me too easy to dismiss the whole thing as "racist" simply because the plot requires that a lot of questionable characters of indistinct but non-European stock clandestinely move into Red Hook.

    This is why I ask "what are the racist elements?" because what I keep hearing is an analysis of HPL and not an analysis of the story other than "Well, they're obvious."

    Humor me. I disagree that they're obvious, or at least I disagree that they are gratuitous. These elements that are being labeled racist appear to be serving the ends of the story. THAT is a big reason right there to question whether they are really "racist" or not, or so it seems to me.

    I think it's a disservice to the story to (at least give the appearance) of saying "HPL was a non-apologetic racist so that clearly makes this story racist also".
    But that's not what anyone is saying. They're saying that Lovecraft was a non-apologetic racist and this racism is reflected in his work. It's obvious, blatant, explicit, and reiterated over and over again. There is no subtext. The racism is all text (as Thessalia pointed out).

    Your disagreement over how obvious the racist elements are is not a reflection of how obvious they are, but perhaps a reflection of how little you might actually think about racism, and how little racism you likely notice. If "The Street" can have a passage like this:

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    With the years worse fortune came to The Street. Its trees were all gone now, and its rose-gardens were displaced by the backs of cheap, ugly new buildings on parallel streets. Yet the houses remained, despite the ravages of the years and the storms and worms, for they had been made to serve many a generation. New kinds of faces appeared in The Street; swarthy, sinister faces with furtive eyes and odd features, whose owners spoke unfamiliar words and placed signs in known and unknown characters upon most of the musty houses. Push-carts crowded the gutters. A sordid, undefinable stench settled over the place, and the ancient spirit slept.
    And you can't find any racism in the story at all, then you apparently do not know what to look for, and your expertise on identifying racism or the lack thereof is somewhat questionable. Especially given the earlier bit:

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    Men of strength and honour fashioned that Street; good, valiant men of our blood who had come from the Blessed Isles across the sea. At first it was but a path trodden by bearers of water from the woodland spring to the cluster of houses by the beach. Then, as more men came to the growing cluster of houses and looked about for places to dwell, they built cabins along the north side; cabins of stout oaken logs with masonry on the side toward the forest, for many Indians lurked there with fire-arrows. And in a few years more, men built cabins on the south side of The Street.
    And this is what happens in all of his work: Dark skinned "swarthy" people are sinister, smell bad, speak inhuman tongues, and are members of evil cults. There are no positive representations of people of color in Lovecraft's work.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
    http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,2062...html?hpt=hp_c2

    Mileage will vary with people about some of the entries on this list. However I doubt anyone will disagree with the #1 show on the list....
    I am glad Pushing Daisies made the list. I love that show, and need to watch it again.
  6. I mean, there are tv shows, movies, and books I love that clearly have elements of all kinds of -isms and -phobias that I strongly disagree with. I know they're there, I know what they are. Sometimes they annoy the living hell out of me, but I still like them.

    I like Lovecraft's stories, for that matter, but I see literally no value in ignoring the problematic aspects of his work.
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    Originally Posted by SlickRiptide View Post
    I have to say that this thread has justified this month's subscription fee all by itself.

    For me personally, I can't really see how knowing HPL's personal hangups benefits me as a reader.
    That's up to you to decide. If you do not think it benefits you personally, then that's your choice. However, that's not applicable to everyone. I find knowing about it because it has an obvious impact on what he wrote and the meaning behind his writing.

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    I don't much care about King's political views and I don't much care about HPL's racist views (or xenophobia, which sounds like it actually is a more accurate characterization).
    Xenophobia is a prominent element in racism. The distinction you're making is not really as big as you seem to be making it out to be.

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    Is The Red Hook Horror racist? If HPL did NOT have the reputation he has, would the story be analyzed the same way? I'm hard-pressed to see the racism, especially when holding it up against other literature of the period. When does a story stand on its own and when does it have to be analyzed on the way its author's views and history inform it?
    If HPL were not racist, then The Horror at Red Hook would not have been written. If he didn't have a reputation for xenophobia and racism, The Horror at Red Hook would still be easily interpreted to include elements of xenophobia and racism because they're pretty obvious.

    I think that the "death of the author" is ********, by the way. I think that's often used as an excuse to cut off certain kinds of criticism - like Orson Scott Card's homophobia.

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    In the end, does it really matter, or is it enough for it to be a good yarn?
    Since we live in a world where racism is a real thing and impacts a lot of people, then yes, it does matter. If it doesn't matter to you, that's a privilege on your part to not have to think about racism.

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    There's no right or wrong answer. Each of us has different things that we find interesting, especially if the reader is someone who also fancies being a writer.

    For myself, I'd have to say that I enjoy HPL's work as literature first and as commentary on HPL himself a distant second. I understand, though, why others would feel differently.
    From what you've written in your post, I don't really believe you when you say "I understand why others would feel differently." I believe you accept that others feel differently, but this post seems to present arguments as to why people shouldn't feel differently.

    I think that it should be possible and is often necessary to be able to critique creative works in these terms (racism, for example). This doesn't mean that everyone has to hate works that have racist (or sexist, or homophobic, or any other -ism or -phobia) elements, and avoid or boycott them. But I do not see a downside to people being aware of what these things are, what they mean, and what they reflect not just about the creator, but about the culture in which the creator is able to produce such works and prosper.

    If we simply offer the benefit of the doubt and take on "the death of the author" uncritically, then all that happens is that an environment in which entertainment for some is actively unpleasant to others, with no concern for the latter. I would rather that concern exist.
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    Originally Posted by TerraDraconis View Post
    Never forget that squamous and ruggous will come up in the description as well. Squamous being scaled and I forget what ruggoeus is. tentacled maybe?
    Do you mean "rugous/rugose" (which means wrinkled, creased, or ridged)?

    It is unfortunate that people get defensive at critical discussions of Lovecraft's racism. The xenophobia is real and present and fairly severe. This doesn't mean that anyone has to hate Lovecraft or never read his work. It's just good to be aware of the author's biases and how they are reflected in his work. He doesn't need to be defended, as he's dead. The benefit of the doubt is inapplicable, as he made his views explicitly clear.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by FlashToo View Post
    No, it wouldn't take them any extra time - but cycling it back into the tier 9 VIP rewards means they can't use that space for things nobody has bought yet. I doubt it will ever be available by reward token again; the idea of random codes (which are, of course, ridiculously hard to get, but their usual method for giving people "special" things) seems much more likely.
    They've said they'll cycle it back in eventually.
  10. BellaStrega

    Ghost's Origin?

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    Originally Posted by Venture View Post
    False. There are natural laws, even in a world like City's. City's world allows things to happen in defiance of those laws; those things are unnatural or supernatural.
    I would argue that the fact that they are possible makes them natural by definition. They're not possible in the real world, but obviously Paragon City is not in the real world.
  11. BellaStrega

    Ghost's Origin?

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    Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
    Please go back to my post and read past where I say that. The rest of the post clarifies why it can't be rejected so much as it needs to be explained a little better, is all.
    I did read past it, but I still don't see the point of bringing it up.
  12. BellaStrega

    Ghost's Origin?

    The entire notion of "unnatural" is logically incoherent anyway. It's more of an emotive descriptor than literal or objective.

    As far as the "lingers for unfinished business" explanation goes, that is such a widespread part of so many ghost stories that rejecting it out of hand because it's allegedly never used in City of Heroes strikes me as fairly strange.
  13. I look forward to this being re-released as I only managed to get one of three bits for it.
  14. I will make it if I can, but Thursdays are often bad for me these days.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Silver Gale View Post
    These threads make a lot more sense if you replace "superheroes" with "the sort of writing I like" and "magic" with "the sort of writing I dislike".
    This covers it nicely.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy View Post
    All that being said, please read my freaking posts going forward before you make the same might-as-well-be copypasta assumption made in the post I'm quoting at the top of this rant. Please, please. I don't want to have to repeat myself anymore.
    Hey, I've noticed that people keep snarking at you for stuff you apologized for, so I'm going to do the opposite:

    I saw when you posted, and I'm glad you did. I apologize for my snarky post earlier in the thread, as well (and in the other thread we briefly interacted on).
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by New Dawn View Post
    No I didn't see what you did but add some Monty Python logic to things. People are complaining now that /MM is stand out ahead of everything else and that rather than all sets getting buffed to /MM level /MM will get nerfed. Three years and /MM hasn't been nerfed so not likely.
    Not much has been buffed, either. So is that not likely, too?
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy View Post
    Uh, I'm not stating something that's false. Blasters can be awesome. Blasters can do stupidly powerful things. That's my point.
    "Check it out! I spent 10-20 billion influence on IOs, picked the most powerful secondary with the most OP single power available to blasters and soloed a single hard target that is vulnerable to -regen more than damage. This totally proves that blasters are fine."

    This is what happens when people do not understand statistics, performance, and the actual value of anecdotal data.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Perez Park could be repurposed as a 30-40 zone, to even out the balance between the large amount of low level zones, and the smaller number of higher level zones.
    Perez has always been a weird zone at that level - it was added along with the Hollows, and in a similar level range, but never given any content, so naturally the Hollows became the standard low level hazard zone.

    Steel Canyonn could do with a facelift into a much more techy zone.
    Perez Park was present at launch. The Hollows were added in Issue 2.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
    AND...
    Beyond the slightly humorous insult in Golden Girl's synopsis, I don't think the title is only about the expanded universe... it's about shoe-horning the existing material into pre-fab mmorpg conventions and mechanics.
    Thus... regardless of what universe of Star Wars it may be... it may be "fake Star Wars" because it really doesn't hold true to enough of the realities of Star Wars... it doesn't hold the integrity that some fans demand.
    Calling the reactions to Golden Girl's nonsense "hissy fits" is a hysterical exaggeration.

    It's more like, "What? She said something stupid again?"
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    Likewise, CoH did and still does end many story arcs with an EB/AV fight. Whether that fight is soloable as an EB is in the eyes of the beholder. I took a lot of heat from other posters by declaring (and proving) that the Mender Ramiel quest could be soloed with any combo using SOs. Many folks, some polite, some less so took me to task in PMs and on the boards for suggesting that.
    You should PM me how you managed it with a dark/dark defender with SOs, because I couldn't manage it after multiple tries.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aura_Familia View Post
    What I'm getting is that since there are players like Bella, the devs are going to err on THAT side of the casual vs hardcore player divide.

    You or I (PTOD also don't matter to me on my control toons) being more hardcore is irrelevant.

    /shrug.
    I wouldn't assume this is a ~casual vs. hardcore~ thing.
  23. BellaStrega

    So Uh...Spines?

    Actually, I do like Spines' look. If I hadn't liked the look I never would have taken my scrapper past 10.

    Except for barb swipe. A quote I remember from 2004 was something like "It makes you look like you're throwing a tantrum at someone's face."
  24. Yeah, several story arcs in CoH ended with AV fights prior to the addition of the EB downgrade.

    The first thing that came to mind after reading Oedipus_Tex's comment was "Dr. Vahzilok."

    The vast majority of story arcs in the laser sword game are soloable to the end, though, and aren't even marked as needing a group. Most of those missions are sidequests off the main story arc, and the instances and other team options are independent of the character and general storylines.