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Originally Posted by Golden Girl

You mean I18, with all the build up to the loyalist invasion, was spoiled by I19, where the loyalists invaded?



It's one of the best and most impressive parts of the whole game - one huge story arc that goes from trying to turn in your Powers Division badge in the tutorial to smashing Tyrant into the dust in I23, using every game mechanic available to tell the story.

Originally Posted by StratoNexus

Tanks are not some D&D concept in the sense that MMO tanks are. This is not some fantasy concept that does not translate into comics. I played table top RPGs for years and I had never heard the term tank or tanking until I started playing CoH. Tanking may have come into play with fantasy based computer role-playing games, but it is a computer role-playing game role, not an archetypical fantasy role.

Comics use tanking all the time. Iron Man leads enemies to other Avengers (herding to other teammates (or into some other trap) is often seen in comics, Spiderman frequently herds people into a web as one example). Characters setup distractions. Big tough guys will hold off some enemy or large group of enemies while the plan comes together. That last one happens in comics all the time and is the essence of tanking. Tough guy can't beat the enemy alone, but can stand toe to toe with it for awhile giving allies time to enact the plan that will allow for victory.

Sure, for gameplay some of these scenarios are simplified, but to say they do not exist in comics is wrong.

It is true that most tough guys can deal out lots of damage. It is also true that often the tougher one is in comics, the more damage they can deal. That said, some of the most destructive people in comics are not the toughest. Gameplay at some point will conflict with story, and yet I do not often feel weak or ineffectual on any of my tankers (early game I can have some issues due to end problems).

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

Not exactly.

It was about Tanker changes, and whether they are necessary at all.

I feel they are not, and was elaborating on my reason for feeling that way. Specifically, I feel it is not the performance of Tankers themselves that make people feel like they need improvements, but rather the fact that a similar AT performs better.

If that other AT were brought back in line with where they are allegedly supposed to be, a lot of the perception that Tankers underperform would disappear. At least that's my opinion on the matter.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

I was guilty of wanting to nerf Stalkers for a little while. Then I did my research and discovered all on my own that I was wrong.

I'm not advocating that anything be balanced at the high end extremes.

My reasoning for reducing Brute caps is that they are slightly more survivable than a Scrapper in most circumstances, by virtue of having more HP. But their potential survivability is too close to a Tanker for the amount of damage they deal in heavy buff situations.

I'm advocating that Brute survivability be lowered a little bit. Can't really reduce base values in this case, so that leaves the caps for any tweaking.

I am also advocating that their damage cap be lowered slightly, as they are capable of outdamaging a Scrapper when they are both at their respective caps (which will happen when there are 2 Kinetics characters on the team)

That is not the "Between a Tanker and Scrapper" balance point that the devs at one point said they are shooting for.

I don't want one AT to be clearly superior to the others here. I want there to be balance between the 4 melee ATs, and from what I've researched 3 of the 4 are what I'd call "close enough". The 4th, Brutes, are still out of line in that they are too close to or above the ATs they are supposedly balanced to be right between.

Originally Posted by khorak_EU

What is frankly stupid is pretending the problem is not a result of previously systemically seperated powersets now being able to directly compete with each other. The problem is precisely that these archetypes are not balanced in relation to each other, which requires taking stock of the entire picture and restoring broader balance instead of throwing random s*** at merely one aspect.

Without touching Brutes you are, at this point, left with no other option than lamely throwing mechanics at the Tank which will ultimately make it do more damage, which addresses the issue only by turning the three melee classes into a homogenous damage/defense slider, with Scrappers at one end, Tanks at the other and Brutes in the middle.

I in no way expected my musing to be a definitive solution, but the real stupidity is a position that entirely rules out balancing changes across the Archetypes, despite the problem being entirely one of a lack of balance across the Archetypes. A solution that rebalances the melee Archetypes and clears up their particular roles is vastly more preferable than "d00d needz moar dmg".

Originally Posted by Vitality

My only thought is that this should have been included when power customization was introduced.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

Most powersets also lose effectiveness from dying. Willpower, Dark Armor, and Fiery Aura are notable rare exceptions. Why does the game allow players to die?

Originally Posted by Party_Kake

Dude, they don't know that. Going from Praetoria to Paragon guarantees a clean slate.

Furthermore, it's up to you whether you decide to outright kill or handcuff every badguy you "defeat," but when you see demon-summoning heroes, heroes unloading grenade launchers point-blank at purse snatchers, longbow using flamethrowers against catgirls, longbow using flamethrowers against wolf pets...

The line was crossed long before that. it's hardly an issue.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

So you mean that their current premium/freebie set up encouraged you to go VIP?

Originally Posted by Cobra_Man

Statesman was the iconic figure of this game.

He was hardly used by the writers following the split.

So, no that's not just my opinion ... that was reality.



You saw him as a douchey - others didn't, so that is your opinion.

If he had no weaknesses, how come he's dead?

Originally Posted by Fritzy

And some posters are obviously limited in their knowledge of what some other MMORPG's are capable of doing with the RPG aspect. Your loss, not mine.

Originally Posted by Dusk_LoneEagle

I am becoming increasingly dissatisfied with the game overall.
As a long time subscriber I am hoping for some player feedback
about the overall quality of the game now and the value
of the Paragon Market to you.

The game overall seems to be getting stale to me,
I guess that is too be expected after 7 years.
My feeling is that it is due to a couple of factors.

1) My lack of time to invest in Super Group stuff, TF or Incarnate Arcs.

2) Lack of mission teams to join. Trials have destroyed teaming in Paragon.
Solitary nature of trial interaction reminds me of PI powerleveling run.
Empty zones with almost no one to team with during daytime.

3) Lack of new enemies, staleness of same old foes year after year.
Lack of new contact, paper, radio missions for mission teams.

4) Lack of Desire to create new Hero/Heroine
The same old powersets nothing new or interesting for free.
The new powersets that I have bought have dissapointed me.
Same old costumes unless you pay for new options.

6) Lack of Desire to level or roleplay my older Heroes.
Do to apathy or boredom with my progress or the game itself.


As far as the Paragon Market is concerned, I feel it is a necessary evil.
I do like the fact that it has enhancements since some are scarce in WW and BM.
I feel it does serve a purpose to F2P and Premium Members.

But, for me as a VIP it only serves annoy me since now powersets and costumes
are not QL improvements as they have been in the past.
The Paragon Market has reduced my choices instead of increasing them.
It is too bad new free stuff might have rekindled some interest in the game.

Frankly, I have been disappointed with the powersets I have purchased.
Now I resist the temptation to buy new powersets due to my boredom with the
sets included with my subscription.

Overall, I guess you could call me dissapointed in the direction of the game.

Originally Posted by Fista

True but is it deserved?

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

The 1-20 content was designed to build up to the co-op content - that's why all 4 paths end with Tyrant as the enemy - there's no "yes, my Lord" ending anywhere in GR - you're either continuing to fight for freedom, or you turn against your former master.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

There's no such thing as "wrong" or "bad" powers, so I've never kicked anyone from a team for having them.

Originally Posted by Agent White

So bonfire becomes a knock down and damage patch <3

Originally Posted by Dark Energon

Also.. WHIPS! I was looking at the guy with the Whip, looking for demons or his AT, couldn't see if he was a Demon MM, but yeah.. Whip Powerset anyone?

Originally Posted by RevolverMike

Why is no one getting excited for the proc in that new set? It changes knockback to knockdown. That seems kinda big.

Originally Posted by Ogi

It's more trying to salvage SSA2+ than trying to destroy people's excitement. If the Devs learn (the right things) from SSA1 then States and crew won't have been lost for nothing.

Originally Posted by OneFrigidWitch

I think, based on Arcanavilles numbers the other day, that the market is doing quite well.

Originally Posted by RemusShepherd

I like fun. I'd like to have more fun and less gimmicks, that's all.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

As you seem confused perhaps a definition will be helpful:


Pay to Win : Using legal tender to purchase in-game advantage.


So, using cash on costume parts is not pay to win, but using cash on enhancements is. Supporting RMT'ers is definitely pay to win, as well as being 'illegal' in the context of the game.

For my part, I don't see it as a pejorative term in the context of the Paragon Market, as any profits realized go directly to the game's bottom line- I'm all for the game surviving and thriving and they can sell whatever they want on the market to that end.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Originally Posted by Agent White

Given how infrequently devs drop in to do an event live, I think you can put up with them for the hour or two they're there doing fun stuff for the game like invasions, costume contests, and playing frisbee in atlas park.