Another_Fan

You make it sound like the other secondaries won't be able to achieve everything but the -regen, and do it without having to aggro a spawn.

If by poor you mean blasters that aren't running tailored AE missions, then you have a point.

Mental is going to be barely beating devices for most people.

And yeah devices will still be at the bottom.

Edit: Devices may actually be better.

Is that correct ? because if it is my Super Reflex toons are doing happy dances. I can also chalk up another + to my list of needed changes that got implemented.

They aren't now ?

And Boxing/Kick is still going to be a waste/set mule power for most people.

Aim and build up are your friends.

Edit: Realized it wasn't clear from my first post but agree water will be ahead in I24

Fire actually has better aoe Geyser currently is nice when you have it but right now Fire ball->rain of fire - fire breath -> fire ball is hard to beat even for full out nukes.

You only need 300% recharge and its well worth the effort the first 100% is free

/Energy manipulation is indeed getting a monstrous boost from the I24 changes. As things stand the devs need to do more than they have mentioned for all the other secondaries or tone down the positives to EM.

I bought water blast and leveled up a toon in anticipation of the coming changes to geyser.

While currently its not up at fire's level once it has the faster recharging geyser it should have more than enough controlish type effects that it will perfrom very well indeed.

No its an expression of the fact that I have a sense of humor. Especially when you consider snipes have a base 150 foot range and tactics has a 60 foot radius.

For most blasters all the snipe changes are just PITAS. You can say all you like that devices needed the boost but Energy Manipulation is now border line overpowered. Oh and as you like pointing out snipes are still very end expensive but energy manipulation is now getting a conserve power that can be made permanent. So what was already arguably the best secondary for blasters will now be far and away the best secondary hands down no questions.

Defenders and corruptors also have more sets with end recovery/management tools so once again they gain even more than blasters.

Face it this is just Arbiter Hawk trying to unnecessarily over complicate things thinking it would be fun and instead getting caught in his ridiculousness. Its important to get this fixed before it makes it to beta.

The same goes for Drain Psyche. Most of the people I know just don't build /mental blasters because they want to put loads of effort into making second rate farmers.

I have to laugh at that. You now have a situation where if a blaster decides to go left and the defender running tactics decides to go right, the blaster loses his attack chain, and that is a quality of life improvement for you ?

This is clearly a single target damage buff and a really significant one for anyone that can use it reliably. The numbers don't lie, but I have noticed that the people who want to push this as being well done have attempted to rename it anything but what it is.

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Really just what under the sun do you mean by EXPLOIT ?

In terms of the existing conversation EXPLOIT = USE.

What most people that play blasters are upset about is that the snipe changes are fricking useless to them. Their builds are already twisted like pretzels to get survivability they desperately need and trying to fit in a power that ISN'T SITUATIONALY USEFUL BUT DOWNRIGHT UNRELIABLE, just isn't something they can manage.

Also pain which has world of pain

The point being that it is already boosting a snipe, it could have given a larger boost to all. There was no need to overly complicate things if you wanted to help out devices.

Two, Devices and Energy, as it stands energy gains considerably more out of the changes than devices ever could. Permanent conserve power/energize+ fast snipes.

Targeting drone already increases the power of snipes for devices.

They hardly need it.

This is as opposed to AT's that can permanently boost all their damage by 60% to several 100%

This, From the man who has made himself the posterchild for nerfing drain psyche. I don't know if you are serious or not, in case you are I doubt you could have done more to make the devs want to nerf the power.

I was talking about having all the ATs perform well enough so you wouldn't have a reason to select on that basis, and you wouldn't have leagues composed of nothing but the "GOOD" ATs.

I have no idea what you think you are talking about or how it bears any relationship to what I said. It looks like you didn't as well.

It is actually getting the heal as well ? Well that puts my AR/Ment in the retirement home.

I have been on leagues that were overwhelmingly composed of tanks and scrappers so its hardly hyperbole. Your statement that "IT DOES NOT MATTER" however is just unsupported opinion.