WindsOfFate

How is this much different than how we locally save AE mission files, and costume files, then load them into the game when we publish or create the character?

This sounds like a great idea! Id certainly love to open up my own shop.

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Well the Devs identify so strongly with their particular heroes, they want to keep em special. I for one think we are far more special than those Freedom Phalanx chumps.

I support this suggestion.

Yeah that seems a reasonable compromise not accessing it in missions. But for example for long TFS, be nice to be able to quickly throw white salvage on the AH for a pittance instead of deleting it.

the slots are limited, and whats to prevent you from using them as free storage anyway?

There might be a part of the market that wouldn't otherwise be interested in playing without a lifetime sub?
In that case they are attracting a customer they wouldn't have otherwise so those don't count as potentially lost long term income.

Admittedly that doesn't seem like it would happen very often. I can't think of any game I would plop 200 down for initially that I wouldn't be willing to pay a monthly fee for in the first place.

In regards to city of heroes, I would definitely get a lifetime sub, and at the rate I play, they would only start loosing money after 3 or so years, as I tend to activate for only 2 months a year. What I would end up doing probably is end up buying all the booster packs, as now I think im getting such a good deal, I wouldn't mind paying a bit more cash. Maybe thats what these other MMOs are hoping is going to happen.

What about Lord of the rings, game seems decently popular. Its a bit of a stretch to say they FAILED and imply it was lifetime subscriptions. Maybe they Failed cause they SUCKED?

Disclaimer:- "I'm not saying Hellgate or CO sucked, I'm just mean to illustrate that there are other more plausible reasons why they failed."

Well I'm not sure how you define Usefulness in a game. I mean playing a game overall can be seen as useless. Im sure we can all find far more productive things to do. I understand if you didn't enjoy it I suppose.

It certainly isn't PVP. You aren't logging on the monster side to get that same thrill and challenge you get when you play a first person shooter, or some competitive fighting that happens when you fight other players in Ultima, or arena settings in COH/WOW or whatever MMO floats your fancy.

There enough of a dedicated player base in LOTRO doing that, that last I played it was always active. I really didn't think that I would enjoy it so much, but I loved it.

I think this idea is aimed more on suggesting different ways players can play together. It gives me the same feel as a GM in DND only more limited. You provide something for other players to interact with.

You could for example have certain buildings in certain zones (maybe hazard zones) that can be attackable or stores that can be robbed. You come up to it as some monster, or a mob of monsters, and start slamming the door to break it down, and an announcement would go "Robbery underway in Perez!" and players can elect to go there and fight.

Yeah, why should I start listening to recluse now, when Ive been Slaughtering Arachnos left and right for years.

I think the save Citizens is a great idea, I'm thinking you would go around saving those boor people getting mobbed on the streets and such. Though Id suggest a much higher number needed for the badge.

I think the killing would be great too villian side, but I guess in this case the ratings dictate that It won't happen.

Haha I agree with you. I remember when I first started playing in the hallows on my first character ever, and I saw two Kheldians in squid form for the first time. I had no idea what they were. They didnt look like any Human hero Ive seen! They joined our team and watching them in action was glorious. The Epic ATs felt epic, my brain was abuzz with questions about them. How are they flying already?! Look how far they shoot! Where did they come from!? The sounds, the animations, all of it was nice, and whenever I saw a Kheldian then I knew here was someone who had a 50. It seemed like something to strive for. Not only that, but they were very effective, and I considered having one on the team a boost.

Anyway its this kinda fluff that I enjoy the most in these games, and its true that what people say about this change not being game breaking. But that doesn't make it any less important, in fact I feel it makes it more important.

Yeah perhaps putting it in those words wasn't the correct way of saying it. Theres always going to be someone arguing for something :P But they are complaining about things not being rare enough :P

But I was trying to show that some people support purples being rare, but that such rarity really is not a good thing. And this isn't directed personally at you, but asking for greater increase in rates does not mean im asking for them to drop from the sky every time I fart. instead of having to kill 3000 mobs for one for example, tie them in to mission completions, mabe 1 in 10 chance, or 5% chance to get one at finishing a taskforce, or have them drop 1 in 1500 mobs.



Actually screw purples, I can understand that they are working as intended because as many mentioned before you can do most content easily with SOs. They are nice and give decent buffs, but they dont replace a lot of the other bonuses that are used to optimize builds that you get from uncommon and rare drops. How about increasing the chances for other uncommon and rare recipes to allow us to work on those first, then work on purples.

And in Reply to your comments about casual players not being able to snag things on the market. I would suggest that some recipes be reworked that a casual player should be able to get them just from drops on his own. What I ideally would like is a system where they can just get the stuff themselves. Also why wouldn't they put it up high enough? It isn't exactly rocket science to check how much something is selling for, and how much something you want is selling for and figuring out if its worth it to sell what you have to buy what you need.

Now for my old man example, back when I played UO, right when it came out, items were expensive. There were very little crafters around, but the more people hit max skills prices actually dropped. I was an extremly casual player, but I found everything accessible all of a sudden, because there wasn't such a big rarity of items in the game, and huge time sinks for gear. A player didnt need to Farm ORE or wood or such, it took as much time farming as it did traveling, or doign any other action. So in the end the amount of goods flowing into the game was greater than gold, prices were affordable for most anyone. Things are much different now though, and everything in UO is super inflated because the game system is radically diffrent, but what I dont understand is why it's so hard to find that happy balance.

It all just feels like things put in by DEVs to give us time sinks. But I swear, I would play this game a lot more if I felt that I wasn't wasting a day farming to get a recipe drop. I would have more fun outfitting my many alts, and I wouldn't quit every month to get a 3 month break from the grind.

I guess to be fair, I must say that I still prefer how things are dealt with in City of heroes far more than any other MMO Ive tried. I do feel that the DEVs are very concerned with our enjoyment. Except for UO I have never stuck with a game regularly as I have with this one.

Haha, ok so good read, I always recruit many players, and though I rarely have trouble finding a pick up group for normal missions and such, and I do use many of the methods you use, even going as far as to send tells to any solo player who isn't looking for a team, doing task forces is another game altogether. I generally factor in 30 mins to an hour in addition to the taskforce.

What is wrong with the AE? Its not exactly super cheap to get recipes from it. You don't get salvage drops, if you want to roll on a rare, thats 500 tickets. AE simply concentrates your reward towards recipes, with the the gold rolls still 4000 tickets worth.

Well trading is a good thing, I dont see what is wrong with selling them. The point was that people are complaining about the great expense of the items, compared with how much influence one gets just playing through the game without farming.
If the rate of goods going into the economy is greater than the influence, influence becomes more valuable, and people will pay less for items. So instead of increasing influence and causing inflation, make items cheaper.

Well thats exactly what I said. Those who want progression past having done at least most of the content. Anyway some harder level encounters villain side are tough without either good IOS or optimal team makeup.

Which reminds me of another point. On certain servers its getting very hard to find people to team up with, so sometimes we run Taskforces such as ITF with less than the optimal number. At that point having more than SO's is a big help.

I find Farming insanely Boring also, but I have started farming a lot recently. Why? Because trying to get money to buy IOs, or finding drops to put together any set just takes too long otherwise. People complain that purple IOs should be rare, that not everyone needs them. Well such rarity is what forces those of us who want to progress our characters past just hitting 50, and seeing all content, to farm.

The inflation of prices is a problem. But I blame the Devs for this. The amount of Influence going into the economy compared to the rate of drops is what does it. If less influence dropped from mobs, but more items where being put into the economy, then prices would drop drastically.

I mean why is it that recipes are so rare and expensive that a person who decides to play the way "it was meant to be", who progresses naturally by doing contacts, missions, taskforces, finds himself with far less than the farmer. I say increase the amount of drops and influence from completing contacts and missions, and you will find a lot more people clamoring to do them.

As to Power leveling, I can't really think of any justifiable reason why people hate it. A lot said against it so far seems logical on paper, but personally I have never experienced any negatives from it. So a new player gets to 50 in 3 days and doesn't know where Steel Canyon is, I for one am glad there are new players around, and enjoy showing them around. And besides, is it so hard to grasp the idea that very few people exclusively play a certain way? Just because some 50 spends the day recruiting to power level doesn't suddenly make him the scum of the earth who can't enjoy the lore of the game.

I do enjoy that aspect of the game, sometimes its nice and refreshing to have a choice. Some characters I want at 50, though for the most part I enjoy the progression much more. I only have 3 50s since starting the game in 2005. I also enjoy powerlevlling friends. Its nice to say "yeah sure Ill Power level you for a bit" to someone. Its like my good deed of the day

The amount of stuff to do at 50 is huge, so many zones, lots of level 50 contacts (and I do think this game actually has some really fun to read story arcs), and taskforces. If some powereleveled level 50 noob leaves because of lack of content, well he certainly isn't going to enjoy the lower level content any more than if he was forced to go through it at a slower pace :/

Ahh, thanks for the excellent tip! I really like this one, can't believe I didn't notice the Empty enemy group before.

On a side note, I can't seem to get the Hot Door trick to work. It just won't spawn the captives. I tried going in Test and teleporting to objectives. they just never appear.

Edit:- and the mission enemy group was not set to empty for the hot door attempts

Ill 2nd this as the most useless class ever. Really just dead weight on the team.