Acemace

I had a request from Profit who's unable to post atm to add a suggestion he has for Invul, "resist physical dmg needs to be switched with tough hide".

Ah I missed this, sorry to see you move on Avatea you've been a real gem at your job, from the standpoint of a customer there isn't anything more you could ask for then you've been willing to help where needed or on occasion attend events.

You're a peach and you'll be missed.


ps, my wife just looked over my shoulder & to the news you're moving on said 'Awww '.

All the best to you.

It was a bad night to be a snowman, nice showing!

Hmm, seems definitely like a Rangle Plot..

I'm glad you like it and hopefully it's more practically useful then the original, but Its_Si shaming me into updating it a couple months ago is the only reason I bothered with it. ;]

It has room to expand if anyone has something to add just post it in that thread or send a pm we'll work up a graphic and pop it on there.

Thread updated, feel free to PM Acemace if there's a link you feel could be added to the OP directory.

Here's a couple ideas that likely got lost in that other black hole, some of them I ran by Castle last year but he left before he got to reply.

Stack Bruising capped @ 50% for 5s (10s)-

Increases the usefulness of multiple tanks on a team - Rangle
brought this point up in this thread and I argued pointlessly for stacking during c/beta last year.
-if no to stacking:
Make it 20% unresistible damage resistance debuff for 15s (10s) and add minor resistible 10% -tohit debuff - Thematically the impact of the tank attack weakens shielding and unbalances an enemies ability to retaliate.
Stacking would increase the Tankers teams overall damage against AV's and hard targets, while also elevating their role.

Damage-

Throwing added damage at the chalkboard is to me a lazy accepted wisdom - which is (by itself) rarely a good way to make decisions
to possibly improve the unique role of any AT, and simply homogenizes each new melee character created down to multiple choices of
similar options.
Issue 4 Tanker Burn was aggressively toned down because the AT wasn't intended to make Blasters & every other teammate irrelevant, which if you weren't around it certainly did (besides of course Jacks love of pen&paper ATs & antipathy towards p/lvling), even so Tanks current damage potential lies within acceptable parameters.
That said:

Tier one attacks-

Raise the damage and reduce the recharge time by 1 second on powers above 2secs, reason, will help soloing speeds at lower levels, it also provides better functionality to an attack all Tanks must take.

The actual damage increase percentage would have to be determined during beta, but the desired result would be akin to Super Strengths Jab being reclassed from minor to moderate while War Maces Bash would go from moderate to high, and the adjustment to the end modifier would have to be fleshed out depending on the damage %.

To a lesser degree of importance (to me anyway):

Taunt-

Lower the animation cast time to 1.57s (1.67s) increase the base range to 75ft (70ft) and radius to 17ft (15ft).
Tanks are not meant to be 100% effective as an aggro magnet, just as a controller is not meant to be 100% effective as Crowd Control, though both come pretty close as is.
But Taunt potentially maximizes offensive and aggro management efficiency and slightly increasing the base range and radius would be a minor adjustment, also Castle had already spoken openly about making it's animation faster.

In that vein:

Raise the aggro cap for tanks to 22 (17)-

Minorly emphasizes differences between Tanks and the other three melee classes, especially solo and unbuffed it's resistance to defeat by multiple npcs is an attribute, and the cap being raised would highlight that albeit in a small way, though a cap needs to remain to avoid anti-Tank stacking.

Nice showing with a good number of newbie Titan Weapon tanks, we had two Tips teams formed by Tamtu & GlacialMeltdown a Numina TF formed by Witty and a full DFB lowbie team I was on, I missed a tell from Watcher's Wrath for teaming sorry about that, we did get them with Tamtus group. Thanks everyone for helping make it fun by leading teams when needed, on to Justice for the next TT.

Nice showing, two Tips teams formed by Tamtu & GlacialMeltdown a Numina TF formed by Witty and a full DFB lowbie team I was on*, I missed a tell from Watcher's Wrath for teaming sorry about that, we did get them with Tamtus group. Thanks everyone for helping make it fun by leading teams when needed.

* "on" until I neglected to click the green button after asking teamates to "click eeet".

Nice job consolidating the ideas Aett, not an easy task by any metric. I'll send a pm to see if we can get this stickied.
Ah there we go, thank you Avatea.

So if you'd like to ya know, have some fun rather then kvetching on & on in another thread with certain professional complainers, Tanker Tuesday tonight on Champ IP gate in KR #86. -9pm est
I'm assuming we'll see plenty of lowbies wielding these tonight: