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....And more nerfs!....beware of the bat!!

When in base mode, if you look at the room info it tells you the amount of Upkeep it costs to have that room available. - you pay for space and not assets within. - there is no rent on the smaller (free) plot side land. - Only when you upgrade that its goes to rent.

I agree with you.
Been doing some reading and research, and think the bug has effected me, hence why my figures may fall short, - Im not so worried about the time of things, hence my post was "end game" in a year or 2 years, our base so far is 8 rooms so we have done well in a short space of time. but now we need to upgrade to the bigger room space so we can have a lot more aux connections and control power, and this is where it gets pricey! at 400k for just the upgrade plot, and then 400k for each room - but then thats the fun, the SG work as a whole to gain somthing benificial at the end of the day. but there is a post on the US forums that I came across that would require somthing like 250+ mil to get a complete fortress with max everything,((but that does not include the massive downpayents for rent too) and that is about 200 lvl 50's worth.. but we only have 75 spaces. and 8 slots

hmm well, My caculations were only based on a rough note compared to what we have done so far..10 levels in the 30's gave me only 189k in total!.full SG mode since 16 went live. (unless this was effect by the missing prestige bug) hopefully when I logon later the new patch has boosted our deserved SG prestige a by a few bob or 2

Dear Devs

Just had a concern that you or anyone else could enlightin me on, re: the End Game...

I understand that really important items require lots of prestige and thats fine, BUT. as this feature of the game came out this late when a lot of the bigger SGs have already extended there max limit in the SG to 75 people, and half of that is all lvl 50's that are active for PVP or anyother form of playstyle..- Once you hit 50 Missions become rare as you run out of contacts, so thus making it redundant for new missions for earning prestige. - but You want to keep this toon, or other lvl 50 toon(s) as you use them on a regular basis. - all your other slots in COH are taken up with un-removable toons..so even if you lvl from 1 to 50 in that time you will bring in about 500k of prestige (working on estimate only here), so with that in mind, IF you have an empty SG then 75 x 500k = 37.5 mil prestige. and this is still not enough to earn everything for a base (from looking at the figures in the base editor.

Now thats working on a New formed SG from day1 from I6, But what happens now when we already have 30 lvl 50's in the SG, and our SG is already full with our other alts and toons we play, none of us really want to delete anything as we use them all often.

a) - will you ever increase the size of the SG from max number of 75?

b) Will you ever give us more slots so we can create a few more toons?

As it is, so many SG's have spill over collation groups, but as the prestige cannot be shared then that defeats the object of working as a team to gather prestige for the ultimate end game fortress!.

Hope the above makes sence..
any light would be appreciated on "end game" methods.

We have the same thing, but as far as I can tell, the devs have not yet switched the mission "on" so it does not work yet...(from what I gather from reading the US boards).

Just a waiting game now...

I think one of the most anoying things about all this base building thus far is the salvage trade off. - I mean we earned the SG mission computer and Teleporter badges for SG mode, and we had the worktables and salvage to build the said items... After forking loads of prestige in building the new teleporter room we THEN had to fork out another 100k prestige to place the items that we built from salvage.. surely salvage should mean free, if we craft it why we need to pay for it? if thats the case why we even need to craft anything and just buy it from the items list in the first place!

Now we are totaly stuck. we have enough prestige to build all 3 worktables to build better items. but, cant use 3 worktables in the same room.. so, on that note I now need to make erm..I think its 300k prestige + another 600k Prestige and then 300k x (rooms I need) just to be able to place the 3rd worktable as there is not enough aux connections. Oh but I could use the secure room set IF I had 50 billion or so!.. jeez. We have lots of items ready to build but just cant use them/place them untill we are really rich.. and for the amount we need to save up for. our fully decorated 6 room base is complete untill this time next year...and by then I doubt if me, or even most of my SG will even be playing then still...ah well.. we will see.

Look on the bright side... we have a mission computer that does nothing as we need 6 anchors in each room and a IoP, cant have that as we dont have space for the Vault room yet. - we have 2 tables that we can make endless tech hardware with..forever!. and wow we can teleport to parez park or creys folly.. so really.. the base is like a trainstation but prettier!// joy! we are not a RP group, but we would of been interested in raids if the game allowed us to do it anytime soon...

I dont have Toggle drops very much in PVP at all. - only on occasion with a Storm controler/Energy blaster, but that is a slim change of happining unless im just unlucky. - Its funny..as when I created this toon, I never intended to use this for PVP (I always use x44), this was for SG missions as its pure class in AOE is ace. but over the last week or so in PVP its really prooven to be a killer and not a victim...

Yes, All my toggles are always on.. takes me about an hour to turn then all on before a mish though.. 8 or 9 toggles cant rem now....click <yeah...be ready in a sec>.. click...<im coming....click....<omw......click...<just one more....click....<TIMED MISSION FAILED>....click...<What happend?...click...

Sorry I'll get my coat.. (if i can find the toggle for it)

28 : Obsidian Shield endred(28) endred(34) damres(34) damres(34) damres(36)

Just a question about this..many have said that this is not just dmg protection vs PSI but normal foe dmg too.- is this the case? as im at that lvl 40 stage where rikti and other bad PSI monsters lurk. so will be using this at next slot lvl to increase. (im a spines/da)

Yeah, I'll be up for this too, so count me in..sounds like fun :P

So far we have a Functional Base. 4 rooms, power gen, mainframe, console, workshop with 2 tables (standard and advanced).. we just scraped through it. - although now.. we have rent to pay so we wont be able to enjoy it for long!
In the next few days we managed to get enough salvage that we will have a basic teleporter and room too..

I belive that it should be difficult to get things, but not as in the way it is now. even if it was "ALL" levels of the SG members that could contribute (as lvl 35+ you dont earn inf so you need inf for SO's) or maybe just a zero knocked of the end of all base rooms/main structures should be better. - I belive that there should be a ultimate thing for base that will cost millions for a SG to have a target to aim for....

to be honest its catch 22, - the amount of (COH INF) you need to get prestige is really poor. - a few of us last night trasnferd our lvl 50 inf for prestige, and we spent about 120mil and got a total of 300k prestige!, we now have 600k to play with for base building and is simply not enough.

And as for earning prestige for a SG. HA!.. well sure, anyone can do it...but at the sake of loosing there inf for there later on SO's that they so need..(and its hard enough to afford those at the start for lower levels.. So ok, that takes out the lower levels from the SG Prestige.. now that leaves lvl 40+ really..most lvl 50's that we have and im sure maot of you have totaly run out of missions.. so again thats no good!.. so its just 40 to say 49 - so all 75 members need to be in this lvl range to earn enough Prestige in a year to afford a good functional base..

Oh the joy!..and to think.. if they dont change it, then a year down the line.. people will be saying "woot we have a fully functional base with defence 'n everything"...but there is no-one else to raid, or be raided.. Its a sad day in Paragon city!.

If they added a extra 0 to the prestige earned then it would be fair at least..but then NC want to keep us as paying customers for another year I guess..

can add both my 50's

zak = Stone / Axe Tanker: = Energy mastery epic pool
x44 = Grav / Storm controler: Fire mastery as epic