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  1. Snow Globe
    Arcanaville said this about the Avatar of Hamidon fight, but I think it is apt for the new trials:
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
    But if that fight lasts more than a few minutes, the odds start to stack against you, especially of the league hasn't done a lot of trials together and isn't working perfectly cohesively.
    For better or worse, the strategy Winterminal relies on cannot be done by a lot of leagues, and after a few goes, players will tune the trial out.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Winterminal View Post
    The one difference is that Maelstrom will be present and he likes to one-shot league members as they are exiting buildings with his version of Vorpal Judgement. Ignore him, and if you are unlucky and he hits you, simply hit the hospital and join the rest of the league in the current building as soon as possible.
    After repeated trips to the hospital due to this on the successful trial I did on beta, all I can say is:

    There is no <CENSORED> way that I want to subject myself to this crap.

    This should never have been allowed. The player exits the hospital with no recourse and instantly dies.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
    The word is "attuned" (auto-tune is a pitch corrector/modifier popular in 80s music and some recent music ), but I would not be averse to such a thing.
    Fine... Title fixed.
  4. Snow Globe
    Special Origins, once the great reward for the special trials and tasks have now been eclipsed by IOs and the new market enhancers.


    Crystal Titan Origin Enhancements
    Hydra Origin Enhancements
    Synthetic / Hamidon Origin Enhancements

    To make these enhancements desirable again, I am suggesting that they become attuned enhancements from 35-50 (with a scaling increase/decrease in value).
    • This would eliminate the Titan and Hydra enhancements being seen as worthless because of their very narrow level range.
    • It would be something that wasn't possible before Issue 21 with the available tech.
    • It would give more characters an incentive to actually run Eden and the Abandoned Sewers (more incentive would to be make them co-op, or make equivalent red side trials).
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kitsune9tails View Post
    Normal IOs only cost you time spent playing the game, which presumably you would be doing anyway.

    ATOs have a calculable, non-subjective value. Let's say you are a Blaster and the ATOs are not weighted by Archetype. Let's further say that there is one ATO in every pack. There are 12 different Archetypes, so that means you will spend an average of $12 just to get a single Blaster IO. An average of $72 to pull a set.

    Therefore, just by playing the ingame market, you can pull a set that is demonstrably worth $72 in real American dollars.

    This is bad.

    The fact that ATOs are also available ingame mitigates this only slightly. I am requesting a bit of code that differentiates the storebought ones, so that they cannot be traded ingame or sold in the Auction House.
    The moment they follow your suggestion would make not only purples seem like penny candy, it would make PVPIOs seem like penny candy.
  6. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Winterminal View Post
    This.

    2-for-2 on successful runs last night on Pinnacle. The second one (which was smoother since we had figured out the winning strategy) was 30 minutes flat. I have a hard time believing that people will be shunning a 30 minute trial that guarantees them 60+ Incarnate Threads and at least 1 Empyrean Merit every time they run it. They just need a chance for the strategies to become widely known.
    There is zero interest in the new trials. I did it, successfully, on beta and I have no interest in the TPN. It is NOT fun, it can be failed by a few people not paying attention, and I don't want to spend most of my night micro-managing how the team is made up.
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    Issue 21.5 Badges

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Placta View Post
    Quote:
    Hint text - Complete all three 500-point Public Opinion challenges, taking no more than 8 minutes per challenge, and then finish the trial.
    I'm a little confused about this one. There are only two 500-point Public Opinion challenges; the other caps at 250 and doesn't require reaching that threshold. So:

    • Is the first challenge included in this?
    • Do you have to get to 250 Public Opinion for the badge?
    • Or did I miss a third challenge at some point?
    That is what the badge hint text says during the open beta.

    Edit:
    The hint text is currently the same.
  8. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Emberly View Post
    I like CoX because it's simple, easy to pick up and put down, and doesn't frustrate me. I don't play games to treat them as a job, so I like the fact that CoX is easy and straightforward.
    Pretty much this, except that the Incarnate System is increasingly tipping towards the "job" and away from the "fun" aspect.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    The general populace will do exactly what they do now with the Keyes (though this is now getting run thanks to the changes on November 10) & Underground Trials: Players will avoid the new trials because they aren't worth the hassle. Players are STILL avoiding the Underground on Triumph and I don't see that changing.
    The shunning of the new trials has already started on Triumph.
  10. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down View Post
    I don't recall Taunt or Gauntlet even causing the Lt's in the BAF to stutter step, much less focus on my tanks, while on their way to the exits. Bruising, however, still functions.
    Taunt and Gauntlet still work on any AVs that are considered "immune to mez".
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater View Post
    TPN is actually far less complicated than MOM in terms of mechanics. It's just a matter of efficiency and tenacity. Both trials were completed during beta, after strategies were figured out. So please don't just say "It's too hard" then go back to running BAF and Lambda.
    Triumph seems to have skipped a step then as we're back to BAF, Lambda, and Keyes.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
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    Proof of perqs?

    POST-ACTION

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    Originally Posted by NewScrapper View Post
    I've been told that because I've been a player for so long (Tier 8 VIP), that when my subscription expires next year I'll still have access to Mission Architect, Inventions, purchasable ATs (e.g., Controllers, Masterminds), etc. -- basically everything except Signature Arcs and Incarnate content.

    But where can I actually see this for a fact? I was looking at the Paragon Rewards tree, and I don't see anything there that says I'm getting all these things. Is there somewhere else I can look to confirm this?
    This guide explains how to see what your account has unlocked: A guide to finding out what you have unlocked from the market.
  14. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SwellGuy View Post
    I have all but one incarnate power and upgraded 2 of them. Is there some way to see our 50+ level for ourselves?
    Your active level shift can be found in the combat attributes in the top group.
  15. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
    Well, there are enemies that can ignore Domination boosted mezzes and mez you even though Domination's mez protection.
    Domination protects the villain from Knockback/Knockup, Repel, Disorient, Hold, Sleep, Immobilize, Fear, and Confuse effects, and can be activated even while suffering from them to break the villain free.

    The point still stands. Everyone is affected equally by those particular holds.
  16. Snow Globe
    Seeing someone else brought this up:
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Party_Kake View Post
    Gambling means randomly winning or losing money, or exchangeable tokens that have money value, or chips that don't really have money value but can be exchanged for money, depending on how you look at that.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Gambling

    Quote:
    Gambling [gam-buhl]  
    gam·ble   [gam-buhl] verb, -bled, -bling, noun
    verb (used without object)
    1. to play at any game of chance for money or other stakes.
    2. to stake or risk money, or anything of value, on the outcome of something involving chance: to gamble on a toss of the dice.
    verb (used with object)
    3. to lose or squander by betting (usually followed by away ): He gambled all his hard-earned money away in one night.
    4. to wager or risk (money or something else of value): to gamble one's freedom.
    5. to take a chance on; venture; risk: I'm gambling that our new store will be a success.
    noun
    6. any matter or thing involving risk or hazardous uncertainty.
    7. a venture in a game of chance for stakes, especially for high stakes.
    Let's see. You are using the first usage.
    The second usage includes anything of value. I'm pretty sure that most players value costume and some players will value the ATOs.
    The sixth usage also applies.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Party_Kake View Post
    But this is the sale of a randomized collection of virtual goods which are not necessary for players, and it's meant to provide players with something for their purchase. I'm seeing a distinct detachment between what we know so far and what people are assuming will happen.
    Do you agree that costumes or ATOs can be valued by players? If so, then it is gambling.
  17. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post
    All the NCSoft game forums are down.
    What was funny was that at the time I was actually surfing the forums quite well. It gave me the "sorry" page once when I tried to post, but less than a minute later I was happily surfing the forums again.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post
    Talk of Ice Control and fixing Jack, "Jack is a little less derp."
    Even a little less would be an improvement.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post
    Issue 22 will add a special tag to incarnate trial bosses to deal Containment damage to them, and on any big scary boss that is immune to control in the future.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post
    Adding that Containment tag to the Lt's in BAF?

    Hawk: "I don't want to make something that is already easy even easier. I can understand thematically why you'd want it. But from a gameplay point it doesn't need tweaking."

    Hawk talks about playing Ice/FF back when the BAF trial mobs had no mez resistance.
    Here is the thing. Adding the containment tag to the Lts in BAF would not make it easier. It would make control powers more flexible, and it would allow control powers to help with any potential leaks while not actually mezzing the targets.

    My thought when I asked the question was "Every non-control power, every non-Controller inherent works on all the prisoners. However, every control power and the Controller's inherent power is specifically crippled for any critter that is flagged 'do not mez'. No other AT in the game is restricted to this degree." Basically I challenge the developers to name any instance where another AT is targeted like this.

    Is there any content that negates any of the following?
    • Scrapper's chances of getting a Critical Hit?
    • Dominator's prevented from using Domination?
    • Blaster's Defiance not working?
    • Tanks Gauntlet or Bruising not functioning?
    • Brute's Fury build up?
    • Defender's Vigilance?
    • Mastermind's Supremacy pet bonus? Okay the Incarnate trials were a problem for MMs, but the pets have subsequently been buffed to incarnate levels while near the MM.
    • Stalker's Assassination ability? That is getting looked at currently for I22.
    • Corruptor's ability Scourge anything & everything?
    • Arachnos Soldier's (Widows or Soldiers) getting their Conditioning ability?
    • Peacebringer's Cosmic Balance? Okay they have to deal with nictus and other targeted damage, but over the years this has been so watered down that the nictus are minor annoyances.
    • Warshade's Dark Sustenance? See Peacebringers.
    • Controller's containment? Why yes, there is content to negate this inherent ability.
    At its most basic, only one Archetype's inherent power doesn't work for specific content. So why is the Controller Archetype specifically targeted in this fashion?

    Letting the inherent work will not magically let the Controllers mez anything that is flagged not to be affected by mez, however it would offset the penalty that is imposed by any critter that becomes immune to their powers. Containment was supposed to offset the fact the because of the mez abilities that the powers were doing less base damage.
  18. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Party_Kake View Post
    I've no doubt in my mind that these super packs will take that into account. They'll probably release the packs as they are, let people collect a few, then after a while see if the response was good and offer a way to purchase single parts at elevated prices, essentially the same way you can go to a local comic shop and purchase the magic singles you want (if they're in stock).
    I see the opposite happening. If the packs don't sell enough for them, they will put even more wanted items in them to further try to get people to buy the stuff they don't want. In other words they'll put the stuff they know will sell, to try to move the stuff they know won't sell. Actually the packs are already an example of that.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Party_Kake View Post
    the upside is you don't have to worry about inflation of demand, nor storage requirements (lol), nor limited supply.
    No, I just have to worry about the next scheme that comes up.
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    Introducing the new death-metal band playing at the Paragon Dance Party: Adamastor and the deadheads!
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    If I am a winner, I permit NC Interactive, Inc. and NCsoft Europe Limited to use my name, likeness, photograph, hometown, and any comments that I may make about myself or this contest that I provide for advertising and promotional activities. I also certify that I am at least 13 years of age and am eligible to participate in this contest.
  20. Snow Globe
    Because you asked (thank you for that!) here is the badge information for the trial:

    Trial Badges.

    Section 2: Minds of Mayhem Badges.
    Master of Minds of Mayhem
    • Hint text - Achieve the following special achievements during the Minds of Mayhem Incarnate Trial: Mental Voyager, Dreamwalker, A Perfect Storm, Daylight Saver and Lost Connection to Server.
    • Completion text - You have mastered the Incarnate Trial: The Minds of Mayhem.
    Sub-badges:
    • Mental Voyager
      • Hint text - None.
      • Completion text - You have completed the Incarnate Trial: The Minds of Mayhem.
    • Dreamwalker
      • Hint text - Defeat all of Malaise's possible nightmares at least once.
      • Completion text - Through persistence or madness, you have faced down the many nightmares of Malaise while battling him in the dreamscape of the Minds of Mayhem.
    • A Perfect Storm
      • Hint text - Defeat Mother Yin while creating no more than 4 Eyes of the Storm, then complete the trial.
      • Completion text - Despite the furious typhoon of psychic energy enveloping you within Mother Yin's layer of the Minds of Mayhem, you were able to keep calm, efficiently using the precious Eyes of the Storm to put an end to Mother Mayhem's hold on Penelope Yin.
    • Daylight Saver
      • Hint text - Defeat Mother Mayhem without allowing Aurora Borealis' health to drop below 75%, and then complete the trial.
      • Completion text - Deep within the Minds of Mayhem, you came across the long-suffering Aurora Borealis, whose body and mind had been taken over by Shalice Tilman. Separating the two was never going to be an easy task, but you did it while causing minimal risk to Aurora Borealis, delivering her from Tilman's torment with a minimum of suffering.
    • Lost Connection to Server
      • Hint text - Defeat Shalice Tilman without missing any opportunity to sever her connection to the Seer Network, and then complete the trial.
      • Completion text - When you finally were able to confront Shalice Tilman within the depths of the Minds of Mayhem, you found that she would not go easily, for she was strongly connected to the Seer Network. Despite this difficulty, you found a way to sever her connections with little trouble, never allowing her to regain her strength after being chased from Malaise's broken body.

    I'll be getting the artwork later today, and will post links.
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    Because you asked (thank you for that!) here is the badge information for the trial:

    Trial Badges.

    Section 1: TPN Trial Badges.
    Master of TPN Campus.
    • Hint text - Achieve the following special achievements during the TPN Campus Incarnate Trial: Spin Doctor, News Flash, Fair & Balanced, Television Addict and Tonight's Top Story.
    • Completion text - You have mastered the Incarnate Trial: TPN Campus.
    Sub-badges:
    • Spin Doctor
      • Hint text - None.
      • Completion text - You have completed the Incarnate Trial: TPN Campus.
    • News Flash
      • Hint text - Complete all three 500-point Public Opinion challenges, taking no more than 8 minutes per challenge, and then finish the trial.
      • Completion text - You managed to successfully complete each major broadcast to the people of Praetoria within a few minutes, establishing to the world that Tyrant's Imperial forces are no obstacle to the Incarnates and their mission to deliver the truth to the people during the raid on TPN Campus.
    • Fair & Balanced
      • Hint text - Do not allow a single Telepathist to convert 4 or more citizens for the duration of TPN Campus, and then finish the trial.
      • Completion text - The Imperial forces threw some of Mother Mayhems' mindwashing Telepathists at the populace in an effort to turn them against you, and you stepped up to shut them down. No Telepathist managed to convert four citizens during the raid on TPN Campus.
    • Television Addict
      • Hint text - Complete all four terminals in all three buildings during each 500-point Public Opinion challenge, while also keeping H.D. above 80% health at all times, and then finish the trial.
      • Completion text - During the raid on TPN Campus, H.D. offered you his assistance in delivering the truth to the world, with only his protection as his price. You accepted his bargain and delivered far better than would be expected with the IDF swarming the facility, thus ensuring that H.D. had the greatest chance to deliver your message with no interference.
    • Tonight's Top Story
      • Hint text - Defeat Maelstrom within four minutes during each of his three encounters.
      • Completion text - Maelstrom arrived during the raid on TPN Campus to send a message of his own: that he would not allow the Incarnates to spread their 'lies'. Not only did his efforts fail, but you also managed to defeat him handily, adding his humiliating defeats to your message to the people of Praetoria.

    I'll be getting the artwork later today, and will post links.
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    Issue 21.5 Badges

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Terminotaur View Post
    I apologize for stealing your thunder. I had no idea I was going to get this kind of reaction from posting a simple badge list. If I had known that you intended to post it later today, I would not have done so myself. And if it helps any, I certainly won't be posting any lists in the future.
    PM sent as I don't want to derail this further.
  23. Snow Globe
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion View Post
    Do you know that there were no changes to the TPN trial for a fact?

    I don't know since I'm at work still but maybe they haven't, maybe they have made changes.
    There have been no patch notes relating to the TPN trial since Oct 28, except that they removed the mid-trial reward table on 11/04/11. The patch notes above are pretty much identical to that patch, except one tiny bit in the rewards section.

    Discussion: Issue 21 Special Update: Media Blitz VIP Beta: Patch Notes for Build 2150.201110270317.0

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    Originally Posted by Freitag View Post
    Incarnate Trial - TPN Campus
    • The amount of Public Opinion lost each time a Citizen is converted or killed has been reduced.
    • The frequency with which Maelstrom's presence reduces the league's public opinion rating has been reduced.
    • The number of terminals players are required to activate in each building during stage 3 and stage 4 has been reduced from 4 to 3.
    • H.D. is now invincible during the second stage of TPN Campus.
    • Traffic should no longer be found on the streets during the TPN Campus Incarnate Trial.
    • Maelstrom can now properly be targeted through the UI during the final showdown at TPN Campus.
    Discussion: Issue 21 Special Update: Media Blitz VIP Beta Patch Notes for Build 2150.201111010101.1
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Freitag View Post
    Incarnate Trials
    • The mid-trial reward choice tables have been removed from TPN Campus, Underground, and Keyes Island, based on feedback that the table popping up is confusing and distracting. We are evaluating other options.
    Heck, most of the initial patch notes for 20.5 are intact: Discussion: Issue 21 Special Update: Media Blitz : VIP-Beta Patch Notes

    Care to point me to anywhere the are other, more current patch notes relating to the TPN being changed?
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    Issue 21.5 Badges

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Terminotaur View Post
    Well if you really feel that way, I'll delete the post. I was just trying to help out in the forums since I couldn't find any other topic outside of beta that even mentioned the badges
    You might have given me a day.

    At any rate, don't bother now. You can't delete posts after people have replied to it.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion View Post
    I don't get this at all. He gave credit to you so...what's your problem?
    It took away my control to edit the list before posting, it makes it harder for those looking for my list of badges to find the new badge list a few months down the line, and he didn't bother to wait even a day to see if I was going to do it.

    Edit: I'll also point out that only VIPs can do the Incarnate Trials, and all VIPs have access to that section of the forums.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
    Civilians can 1-shot an Incarnate Character? Ouch.
    Thanks to the stacking debuffs of the seers, yes. We seen civilians hit players for over 600 HP damage.