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Yeah, it's Clarion... If you guys noticed, I specified that I utilize all 3 builds on my character... For lower level content (basically pre-Eclipse, or pre-human-only optimized effectiveness/farming levels), I always change over to my tri-form build, which has built-in KB protection.
So, technically, all 3 builds have built-in KB protection--it's just that 2 of them rely on upper-level KB protection, and the other is built for low-level play.
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At lower levels, no, you're not going to get much mez protection for a human-only build.
The only thing you can hope for is to try and mez the mezzers before they mez you with your control powers.
I always recommend playing at low levels as a tri-former or at least as a bi-former with Dwarf form because of the mez issue, unless you're going for a true challenge or trying to get the badge for time held.
Now, once you reach Incarnate level, mezzing won't be a problem.
Make sure you carry plenty of break frees!
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Just had my first Master's degree class this evening, and this is what it was like:
"Ok, you got 4 books for textbooks... Go home, read 3 chapters from each, look through this list of 100 possible thesis topics, pick one, find an article on it, read it, write a paper on that, go to this website: http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/kb/contents.php, memorize that, write a paper in APA format on Research Methods Terminology based on that website, and find a game developer that you'd like to write about and do research on him and write a biography on him."
"Oh, and that's partially due by tonight at 1am, and the other portion is due day after tomorrow."
I don't plan on actually taking a break from gaming (least of all City of Heroes), but after today's wakeup call, I doubt you'll see me in the game much, and if you do, it'll probably be at really weird times...lol
I should be done in a year though, and then hopefully I'll be able to finish pursuing my dream by getting a job in the gaming industry!
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Quote:Actually, that one looks a little more down my line of thinking... Resistance is nice and even across the board, damage isn't sacrificed, the end recovery to usage has at least a 2 point difference (nice!), and defense values are good...Well no, I promise there is no practical difference between a .2% difference in defense. Dechs even confirmed this for me once so I know I'm right.
Anyways just in the interest of conversation... I always find that when it comes to building defense without Dwarf, it's most 'comfortable' to get s/l/e/n to 32.5% than softcap s/l. You might like this build, I just made it on the fly and I'm kind of worried about the endurance usage still, but it might be workable. Not expecting you to use it or anything, just posting it for funsies.
*Plays with Mids some more*
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Oh noes... we don't want to bring Arcanaville into this section of the forums now!
Next thing you know, you'll be saying 2+2 = 4, which is essentially the same as 5.
O.o
Seriously though, thanks for the time you put into putting the build together...
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Wow, the resistance values with eclipse against one target isn't that great across the board with that build, and that's WITH Tough running. I was building to have the highest possible resistance in every category (with S/L softcap), so I could test against enemies that do more than just S/L damage. What if the enemy is Infernal? My Fire resists wouldn't be a whole lot against the likes of him... Sure, technically, I could drop into Dwarf form (with that build) if I were in an emergency situation, but that negates the whole point of having a human-only build.
The endurance recovery to usage ratio isn't that much better, and you haven't even hit the defense softcap. You're still short.
I agree with what you said with the Ebon Eye/Essence Drain thing, though... I didn't really think about focusing on just one or the other, and I should have done that.
Other than that, though, that slotting is a completely different direction than I'd go for an Order™ build, but hey... That's what makes Khelds so great--the possible build choices.
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On the heels of the thread I created about my "build 1," I decided to go ahead and share what I'm working on for "build 3."
Build 2 is my tri-form build, and that one doesn't need any re-working, as far as I'm concerned.
However, for this defense-based Order build, I've been trying out a lot of different things, because due to having to specifically build for softcapped defense for AV solo tests and other challenges (and remain a human-only build), there are differences in power choices, recharge bonuses, and slotting.
The first build I tried was so radically different from my *normal* playstyle with Alien that I decided to rebuild it and see if I could get as close to the playstyle/power choices of my Chaos build as I could, without sacrificing S/L defense softcap or shields.
As it stands, I'm able to keep a resistance in all categories (except Toxic and Psionic) between 60-70% when hitting Eclipse off of one enemy (most likely while fighting an AV--the specific point of this build). Obviously, finding more "enemy food" while fighting aforementioned AV would be preferrable for capped resists and softcapped defense, but in either case, having that much resists off of one enemy isn't bad.
Also, now that we have "enhancement boosters," I've found that I can up those resists by another 5% or so, which may help as well...
Order Build
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If you're talking about THB's enhancement screen, I'm pretty sure that's Corva's Power icon/Enhancement/inspiration pack...
That reminds me, I need to reinstall mine. I haven't installed it since installing CoH on my new laptop.
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Quote:That's a good idea... I probably won't use "Q" or "E" though, as I already have them bound to switch between trays (#4 and #9--the ones that aren't readily on screen in the screenshots)This may be a silly question, but did you have super jump and combat jumping binded to the same key? I use wasd to move so i binded it to the "q" key on some other SJ toons, and it can quickly become an easy fix to the whole "ugh, i have to turn off superjump now" problem.
I do forget some-times though, I only realize when my endurance bar is basically empty >.>
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Actually, that does sound pretty clear...
So, essentially, damage procs have the same chance to go off in an AoE as in a ST power?
Well, that's disappointing. I was under the impression that adding the procs to my AoEs had a much higher chance of going off than adding the procs in my ST powers, and I actually had the impression (could have been a false one, but it certainly felt this way) that I saw the AoE ones pop off more often than the ST ones. I may have to re-think having all those procs on this build...
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Why is it sacrilege to slot Grav Em with Kinetic Crash? I've always been a huge proponent of making builds that fit playstyles and still get the job done well... If you're someone who enjoys the KB, that's awesome. It's just not something that fits with how I play. In fact, I'd probably be one of the happiest people in the world if all the Kheld KB was changed to KD, but then again, that's just me, and I think there would be a few people out there that would get pissed at the change, so it's not that big of a deal. I just deal with it as best as I can. If I had a mass immobilize to counteract it, that would be even better....
Anyway, I tweaked the build a little more... More experimentation! I kept the recharge at 180% (so I could hit 200% with base buffs and have 4 fluffies out while fighting), surpassed the 300% regen mark, alllllmost hit the 1400 HP mark (I think I was a tad bit over 1397), and kept my end recovery/usage difference above 2 full points.
The main thing I was trying to go for here besides maintaining those specific build goals was hitting the softcap for defense with an activated Vengeance (with Agility slotted) as well as changing around some slots to have as many procs in as many powers as possible.
No, Ebon Eye isn't slotted for full damage--it's slotted for the set bonuses--but, again, although I use it sporadically, I don't use it as a "regular" part of my attack chain. So, losing some slots on it (or not slotting it with 3 Hamis to max the damage) isn't that much of a loss for me. This isn't an AV solo-er build, this is an AoE-focused damage machine...
3rd Experiment
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Microcosm, could you possibly put that into slightly more layman's terms? I've re-read it 3 times, and I"m still not exactly sure what you're saying there. In your example 1A, you mentioned 'AlienOne's Absolution, which you have slotted, has a 20% chance to do 5 damage. You launch your attack at the group, one goes down because the proc triggered"... However, you don't mention what I was originally talking about, which was the equation difference between using a proc in a ST power vs. an AoE power. You said "one goes down because the proc triggered," but what was the chance that he'd go down with a ST power hitting him vs. an AoE power hitting his entire group? I believe it was Arcanaville that was originally talking about it years ago, but I can't seem to find the original post on it. I seem to remember the chance that the proc would go off would be higher, because the "20% chance" was checking against each target in an AoE power, whereas there would only be a single "20% chance" check with a ST power vs. a single enemy... Get what I'm saying? What you seem to be talking about is how many times you use the power and the endurance used/saved by using and not using the power because the proc happened to go off once or twice... -
Quote:While I definitely appreciate input and suggestions from anyone and everyone, I'd have to say that if Khelds got THIS much of an overhaul, I'd shelf mine for good.I might suggest allowing some of the human form powers to be usable in forms. first and foremost all shields should be usable with any form.
For PB's, the ranged powers the human takes can be usable for nova's the three melee powers can be used as a crab. The healing powers and inner light can be used by either.
For WS's the same sort of thing, but drop the second version of essence drain and mire and replace both with something. Allow shadow cloak and inky aspect to be used on the crab, and stygean to be used on everything.
Oh well just a few ideas.
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Quote:One keybind:
/bind *key* "powexectoggleon combat jumping$$powexectoggleon super jump"
That should bounce you between the two.
Here's what I use for the superjumpers.
/bind j "powexectoggleon super jump$$+up$$+autorun"
This turns on SJ and sends you jumping forward on your way.
/bind h "powexectoggleon combat jumping$$-up$$-autorun"
This turns on CJ and stops you dead in your tracks.
Thanks a bunch!
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Quote:I wondered where you were at... Was thinking those Rikti pissed you off so much you decided to quit... :PHey Alien. I had/have walking pneumonia so I've been largely away from the internet for a couple of days letting myself recover... Sorry I didn't have a chance to look at this sooner.
Good to hear you're getting better.
Quote:First I like the build, you picked up more expensive goodies it looks like. Some of your choices are similar to mine. I'm kinda curious about the procs in your Mire and Unchain Essence, I generally only proc fast recharging powers due to the % chance of them going off in combat depleting the longer the cooldown is (for obvious reasons- the less you can use it, the less it can proc.)
The % chance of a proc going off in a power that affects multiple targets being higher (I'm sure a math whiz could explain it better) should definitely not be discounted.
Now, that said, I haven't been seeing the Gaussian's proc going off very often at all, so I may switch that out for something else when it's all said and done.
Quote:I also prefer Ragnarok in Unchain due to the lack of a usable proc in the set like you do- I figure the set either has to go there or in Detonation. Of course I used 5 pieces of Javelin Volley in Detonation 'cause I'm a showoff, the Positron's Blast is probably a more reasonable slotting since you seem to want oodles of recharge- But to what end? To me, after I've hit enough to Perma my Eclipse, close-to-perma my Mire, and run my ST chain, everything else is gravy. You must really be fond of the gravy you mentioned in your last post.
4 fluffies is definitely more awesome than 3 fluffies, and when you can have 4 out for 20 full seconds, the amount of possible damage output that you are capable of jumps considerably. That, and having even faster recharge on powers like Spring Attack, Unchain Essence, and Sunless Mire is amazing.
Quote:Some little nitpicky things:
Why did you use the Absolute Amazement tri for Inky Aspect? I'm assuming you wanted the recharge to be down for when you get mezzed through Clarion but with Nebulous Form you can hang out in magical phased land (except against select cheaters) for an extra .10 seconds and use and Endoplasm Exposure for better accuracy/stun results. That's what I do, but mine is also (I believe) the only level 53 in the game so you can't touch my baller status there. () I would consider one-slotting it to pick up some better enhancement values for Ebon Eye under your new slotting, since you have it in your ST chain it could use some more shiny red (or at least yellow) damage numbers in my opinion... But then I also slot my Gravity Well up past 100% damage because I'm quite possibly neurotic and just plain crazy, so YMMV.
Quote:Oh and also, skipping your best control power (Emanation) for a crappy pool power AOE that does 70 damage on a freakin' 30 second recharge (after your obscene recharge values) is something I'd call sacrilege if it was almost anyone else but you was doing it. So take note... We are watching you, and we are displeased.
1. It's KnockDown, not KnockBack.
2. It's actually a 287+ damage hit (not 87) with a fully saturated mire--and that's not even taking into consideration the mathematical values of Reactive Radial Flawless Interface... In Mid's, that power ups the damage capability to 337.2--I'm sure this can't be right, since I saw someone post that Mid's doesn't properly calculate those incarnate values (because of the "chance" values), but I hope you get the picture. Bottom line, it's a much larger damage burst than you're projecting it to be, and it's a MUCH larger damage hit than Gravitic Emination AND it keep the entire mob in the same spot they were originally in. So, if you're only getting an 87 damage hit off of Spring Attack when you use it (assuming you've used it), you're not doing it right. The most damage you can get from Gravitic Emanation (5-slotted with Positron's Blast) with a fully saturated mire in that same build is 83.5.
3. When I enter melee range, I like to stay in melee range. To make the best use of Gravitic Emination's cone attack, you have to either open with it (which I have ALWAYS hated doing, because the KB on the mob is unpredictable, and doesn't allow me to use Eclipse like I want to), or you have to leave melee range to use it. Both options are not options that fit into my playstyle.
4. I use it more often than I ever used Gravitic Emanation.
5. In that same build, using Gravitic Emanation instead of Spring Attack shows that Gravitic Emanation has a recharge value of about 15 seconds. Using Spring Attack in that same build has a recharge value of about 30 seconds. This means you can use Gravitic Emanation twice for every one time you can use Spring Attack.
With that in mind, Gravitic Emanation's damage values would be approximately 167 with a fully saturated mire, and Spring Attack's damage values would be approximately 287.
Both powers have a control factor. Gravitic Emanation Knocks Back (a considerable distance) and stuns. Spring Attack knocks the entire mob down (exactly the same as a Shield Charge). I think we can all agree that Gravitic Emanation's control abilities, although possibly slightly more annoying (depending on if the player likes KB or not), is definitely better over time.
However, Spring Attack's damage values are definitely better.
Therefore, I'm essentially sacrificing -some- control for better damage values.
And that, THB, isn't really sacrilege.
Quote:That was truly an anomaly (and a frustrating one at that.) We were getting some seriously unlucky spawns or something... A full Mire gives a better ToHit bonus than Rage, there's really not much hope for increasing it enough to make a difference at that point. At one point towards the end I had a full Mire and 6 yellow inspirations running and I still couldn't hit the bastards.. In a situation like that, Tactics isn't going to make much of a difference (sadly.)
Quote:Edit: Just saw this
You can use:
/bind key "Powexectoggleon Combat Jumping"
/bind key "powexectoggleon Super Jump"
(You don't need to tell the binds to powexectoggleoff the other power as each will automatically detoggle the other when it is activated. Same with Ninja Run. )
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Stone Daemon, I definitely prefer this to my defense build because it just fits my playstyle more... I'm still working on the defense build, as I'm not completely satisfied with how it plays (at least for my playstyle--I'm not suggesting it plays "badly" per say, just doesn't fit with how I normally like to play). I still think I'll be able to get it to where I want it though....
As for the Chaos™ build, here are the changes I've incorporated from the first one...
Firstly, after AIB asked if I used Jump Kick, I started re-evaluating all my powers I used on a regular basis in my attack chains, and realized I don't use Ebon Eye all that much either (I still use it, just not as a "regular")... So, I decided to sacrifice some slotting there for some other set bonuses I was going after, namely:
I started getting obsessed with trying to hit the 300% regen mark as well as hitting 1,400 HP at the same time, while maintaining a End Recovery/End Usage difference of at least 2 points per second. I also didn't want to dip below 180% recharge (with Hasten), because I like getting that 1-hour long 20% recharge base bonus, and running around with over 200% recharge just from myself before any outside bonuses from teammates come in... I like doing that, because it makes it much easier to hit the recharge cap on a full TF/Trial, which in turn allows me to have 4 "fluffies" out at once when I'm at full momentum. Needless to say, it's a beautiful sight, and brings a tear to my eye at just the thought of all that carnage... (haha)
AIB, I took your advice and switched out Jump Kick for SJ, because, let's face it... Being nitpicky about switching toggles between travel and battle is just--I'll admit to it--a little OCD. What I should do is make a keybind for switching between the two... Do we have a "bind expert" in the Kheldian section who may be able to help me with the proper command for this?
I also wanted to have 8 points of KB protection for situations where I may decide to use another Destiny Incarnate power besides Clarion (like rebirth, for example) while I'm on teams that may be providing me with other mez protections.
THB may slam me for my Tactics slotting, but after the other night where we got crushed by 54x8 Rikti because of Guardian bubbles, I decided to revert back to how I used to slot Tactics over a year ago to see if that makes any difference.
This "alternate" build also seems to have inadvertently brought up my ACC percentage to 96% as well, which can't be a bad thing...
So, here's the newer "improved" build (if you can call it that)...
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Shady,
That build looks good... If that works for you, I definitely can't fault you for it! Looks extremely viable. If you run across the influence, I'd switch out the recharge IO in Dark Extraction for a Soulbound Allegiance Damage/Recharge.
You also really don't need any heal IOs in Stygian Circle, as the inherent heal percentages are ginormous unenhanced. I'd switch those two Numinas out for 2 more Efficacy Adapters (End Mod/Recharge & End Mod/Acc)
Other than that, really good stuff.
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Quote:Thanks!First of all, you have a nice costume. I also like the impressive set of bonuses on display; it makes for a nice picture. So, bar in the background, is AlienOne a big drinker??? You do know that you're saying to the kids of Paragon City, "This is where the cool cats hang out." Oh, strike that, I see you are a Vigilante...o.k. that explains it...
Quote:I see that your post is going on 90 views and no one has made any comments...you see, this is what happens when you write a guide. No one dares to scrutinize the expert's build.
I even had switched to the ACC/Dam Hamis in my Eclipse slotting a month or two ago becaise of finding out that Hamis also improved other things besides what they list (see? "experts" don't know everything! lol)
Since that's now being fixed, I just had to switch back to how I originally had it.
Quote:Overall I like it. The many hold procs, and especially having two of them in Grav Snare jumps out at me. I have a Stone/Rad Controller that holds...everything...she has many hold procs worked in as well.
Quote:Do you actually use Jump Kick? Because if not you could get Super Jump earlier instead and drop a KB protection enh there or your Winter's Gift (I do see you have these elsewhere already).
Yes, that may be a minor nitpicky thing, but I find that if I've activated Super Jump (I've had it on my build before) to travel to a mission, I often forget to re-activate Combat Jumping before leaping into battle... It is a very minor nitpick, so that's why I'm still debating with myself on it. That, and I do like the phase part of Neb form as well--it allowed me to essentially "tank" Lord Recluse without dying on my human-only build last night on a Statesman Task Force, which is something I've never been able to do on my Warshade before except when on my Tri-Form build.
Quote:I like getting Vengeance early on but, then again, I just use my one build for everything whereas I have read you make use of all three.
Quote:I find the Gaus in Sunless interesting. Especially since you are missing out on the extra defense of six slotting. I do see that when Vengeance is on you are at 32.5+ def.
The Jav Volley in Unchain is a nice touch and one that I may incorporate.
Quote:So no accuracy in Eclipse...Is it autohit now or is your acc high enough to do without it or do you make it high enough by using sun or inspirs first?
Quote:The multiple slots in Health and Stamina don't appeal to me but I suppose you are needing the end. And Neby Form...two slotted...if it floats your boat. But SJ unslotted has better stats.
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I'll have to keep the SJ stuff in mind though... I'm still on the fence there. Thanks for the input!
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Hey, guys...
Just wanted to show you guys what I've been experimenting with lately with Alien's "build 1."
I was playing with TwoHeadedBoy a day or two ago, and noticed that he was using Nebulous form primarily for its secondary effect--as a travel power.
That got me to thinking... What if I used that as an excuse to wean myself off of Super Speed--one of my two favorite "gotta have it" powers (the other being Vengeance)?
I also used to have Provoke, dropped it for a long, long time, and then recently picked it back up, because lately on TFs, I was getting annoyed by how my pets were picking up aggro and dying too quickly.
Something else I started experimenting with was using a 5-slotted set of Gravitational Anchors rather than a 5-slotted set of Absolute Amazements... Why? Well, I found that when I took 3 of those slots in Inky Aspect and moved them elsewhere, I didn't lose a heck of a lot of anything--maybe a few seconds of stun time, but that is really unnoticeable, since most of the time the guys who are stunned (LTs and minions) go down in less time than what the stun duration is when it's 2-slotted.
However, I still kept 2 of the AA's because of the wonderful recovery bonus associated with purple sets.
Also, in preparation for the upcoming i22 "fix" to Hamidon enhancements, I opted to switch back to my "classic" enhancement slotting for Eclipse that I had suggested for human-form shaders when I originally wrote my guide for it back in the day--specifically for the combination of recharge, resistance, and endurance bonuses.
Finally, I wanted to experiment a little with "Spring Attack," since it's a new power and I'm a huge sucker for "MOAR AoE!!!" Relatively speaking (and this is something TwoHeadedBoy let me know before I even respec'd into getting the power), the AoE damage isn't the greatest compared to it's recharge time... However, on my high recharge build, it's up every 30 seconds, and with a fully saturated mire, I'm getting a cool 338 damage hit on it--every 30 seconds, that ain't bad for an AoE--especially if I'm using it every 2nd mob (i.e., Eclipse/mire/Gravity Well/Unchain Essence/Dark Detonation/Spring Attack to next adjacent mob and begin on "normal" attack chain)...
Anyway, just wondering what you guys' thoughts on this would be... I definitely wouldn't recommend it as a "be all, end all" build for human-formers, but thus far, I'm actually enjoying it even more than I thought I would!
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Quote:Wise man.Provided, of course, they are still alive. You see, having said the above I will freely and quite happily concede that provoke gives human form JUST ENOUGH aggro control to XXXXX XXX XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXXX! XX XXXXXX XXX XXXXX.
Hmmm. For some reason every time I try to come right out and give specifics on how awesome warshades can be it posts as if it's some sort of CIA redacted document. It's almost as if my subconscious doesn't want me to put specifics like that where developer eyes can see them.
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Ok, I'll take a stab at this...
Initial impression: Good, but definitely can be improved.
For one thing, in the next upcoming CoH issue, Hamis will be "fixed" to where their secondary *unlisted* effects (like ACC/DAM also improving Eclipse's damage resistance) will no longer work.
I recommend keeping those 4 slots you have in it, and changing it out for 4 Impervium Armors (All but the Res/End and Psionic Resistance ones).
I see that you're going for the 32.5% mark for melee defense (which is great), but a couple of points there: One, you can take out the Defense LotG in Maneuvers as well as the triple LotG in Weave and still maintain that 32.5%--which also frees up 2 more slots to put elsewhere for other things.
Or, conversely (and I highly recommend this), you can get the Agility Core Paragon incarnate power, and that will allow you to only slot a Def/End and Def/Global Recharge in both Maneuvers and Weave and just a Def/Global Recharge in Shadow Cloak, which will give you FIVE extra slots to redistribute and still maintain the 32.5% def to melee AND put your Hasten at perma.
Also, you can grab another attack/control power by switching out Gravity Shield for Gravimetric Snare, and not really miss the resistance loss since, you know, you have a stacking Eclipse...
Your Endurance Recovery to End usage is HORRIBLE. Try to see what you can do to improve on that via sets if possible... Maybe use some of those freed up LotG slots to take down the end usage of Maneuvers, Tough, and Weave.
Not sure why you have only one Jaunt and then a range IO in there, but you can have the same exact range on that power by placing a Jaunt: Range in place of the Range IO and get a 4% regen bonus...
Go ahead and 4-slot Stamina and put 4 Performance Shifters in there--the extra 20HP and 2.5% end recovery will be worth it, trust me.
Also, placing a Miracle: Heal in your health will up both your regen and your end recovery considerably.
There may be more that I'm missing here, but that's what jumped out at me immediately...
"Alien"
P.S.
Just a thought, you may want to experiment with using a Gravitational Anchor set in Gravimetric Snare rather than the Absolute Amazement set in Inky Aspect.... You don't lose a heck of a lot of mez power in Inky (place a Hami ACC/Mez or two on there), nor does it cost much to be toggled... And you gain a LOT more mez power in Gravimetric Snare too... One of my favorite things to do is to have Gravimetric Snare 6-slotted and put 5 Gravitational Anchors in it (including the chance to hold), and also slotting a Devastation: Chance to Hold in it as well... You'd be suprised how often enemies get held when there are 2 chances to hold in a single power!
Or, if you have the funds (and the slots), you can use both sets for even better bonuses! -
Quote:Best advice ever.I recommend that you try out human, biform and triform. Remember you can have up to 3 different builds from which to chose on the same character. Utilize all three...
Kheldians are in the best position to take advantage of seperate builds for specific situations... I do that myself, actually... My main build is my Chaos™ human-former, my 2nd build is my tri-former that's built specifically for exemping down for Ouro arcs and low level TFs, and my 3rd build is my "experimental" build (I'm trying Order™ builds with softcapping defense currently on that one).
I don't know about you guys, but constantly respec-ing characters and figuring out different possible build combinations is what has kept me in this game for over 6 years--not repeating missions over and over again.
"Alien"
*Edit*
Oh, and thanks for the guide shout-out.