Human Warshade out preform Tri-Form?
Humanform can be a lot more durable, given the right build and investment level. That said, tri-form is no slouch either, so it really depends on what you have more fun with.
I don't think it's possible for a human form warshade to out-damage a similarly kitted out triform, but I don't really have the time to weigh out the math to prove it. So I'll give your friend the benefit of the doubt.
HOWEVER, a human-form build that could out-damage a triform build would be two things:
EXPENSIVE! Human form warshades don't have the heavy hitting melee attacks that human form Peacebringers do - you're pretty much stuck with Gravity Well and fillers. Like I said, I don't see how that kind of chain could even come close to what you could do with a fully-mired nova or dwarf in the mix (bearing in mind that a dwarf with enough recharge can double-stack its mire).
But I've been wrong before. I don't see it literally means that I don't see it - not that it isn't possible.
But I AM sure that the second thing that this theoretical human form build would be single-target focused. There's no way, no HOW a human form warshade can out-aoe a triform. Nuh-uh. The human form aoes are either too anemic or too infrequent to be a signficant factor.
Did your friend give you a build? If so, you might try posting it. Then we'd have something tangible to judge.
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Hmm, well, to put the matter shortly...
It depends upon the build as well as the player.
I recommend that you try out human, biform and triform. Remember you can have up to 3 different builds from which to chose on the same character. Utilize all three...
Use SOs and slot each build. Play with all of them, decide which one you prefer and then IO it out.
Oh and read AlienOne's guide too.
Thank you very much for all the advice so far I might do that with theother build thats one thing I adore about Kheldians they can be so many things lol I'm a bit ashamed to say, but the warshade I'm working on is my 3rd atually I always got frustrated and rage deleted it but I want to make it work this time around lol my PB was easier to set up shout out for the Peacebringger suck guide it's pretty darn good ( helped me make a great PB I know there is a lot of ws talk but wanted to give you your moment
), and I will make sure to checkout Alienone's guide
Played with it a lot today and just missed beating on things with my drawf and using the nova from time to time. I'll go tri-formI just have much more fun with it than human only ( nothing against human only ). I want to thank those that took the time to answer my questions. maybe someday in the future I'll have a few screens of me soloing something .
I recommend that you try out human, biform and triform. Remember you can have up to 3 different builds from which to chose on the same character. Utilize all three...
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Kheldians are in the best position to take advantage of seperate builds for specific situations... I do that myself, actually... My main build is my Chaos™ human-former, my 2nd build is my tri-former that's built specifically for exemping down for Ouro arcs and low level TFs, and my 3rd build is my "experimental" build (I'm trying Order™ builds with softcapping defense currently on that one).
I don't know about you guys, but constantly respec-ing characters and figuring out different possible build combinations is what has kept me in this game for over 6 years--not repeating missions over and over again.
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Oh, and thanks for the guide shout-out.
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AlienOne's Human-Form Warshade Guide (Old guide+New guide = 12,000+ views!)
Best advice ever.
Kheldians are in the best position to take advantage of seperate builds for specific situations... I do that myself, actually... My main build is my Chaos human-former, my 2nd build is my tri-former that's built specifically for exemping down for Ouro arcs and low level TFs, and my 3rd build is my "experimental" build (I'm trying Order builds with softcapping defense currently on that one). I don't know about you guys, but constantly respec-ing characters and figuring out different possible build combinations is what has kept me in this game for over 6 years--not repeating missions over and over again. ![]() "Alien" *Edit* Oh, and thanks for the guide shout-out. ![]() |
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I don't think it's possible for a human form warshade to out-damage a similarly kitted out triform, but I don't really have the time to weigh out the math to prove it. So I'll give your friend the benefit of the doubt.
HOWEVER, a human-form build that could out-damage a triform build would be two things: EXPENSIVE! Human form warshades don't have the heavy hitting melee attacks that human form Peacebringers do - you're pretty much stuck with Gravity Well and fillers. Like I said, I don't see how that kind of chain could even come close to what you could do with a fully-mired nova or dwarf in the mix (bearing in mind that a dwarf with enough recharge can double-stack its mire). |
But I AM sure that the second thing that this theoretical human form build would be single-target focused. There's no way, no HOW a human form warshade can out-aoe a triform. Nuh-uh. The human form aoes are either too anemic or too infrequent to be a signficant factor. |
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AlienOne's Human-Form Warshade Guide (Old guide+New guide = 12,000+ views!)
Hello thank you for taking the time to read this. I first posted seeking aid of the wisemen..and there is probably a few wisewomen on here also
, about going pure human or bi-form after reading the mfing warshade guide ( a very very good guide btw ), And felt I was hurting myself by going bi-form so i fought with myself and mids ( which I am not the best at but I work hard on improving my skill with it ) on either to go pure human, I've read forum post after forum post of people talking about which is better. Though given my love of..smashing things with the drawf ( it's just fun ) decided to go tri-form I sought out the help of an old friend who was our groups expert of kheldians mostly PB's, but some help is better than none. Well we put together what i thought was a pretty decent build. Well after going through another respec I thought to show it to another friend who is pretty amazing with mids who said it needs to be scrapped and that I would get much more out of going human only thoguh it probally will cost me a pretty penny. Normally I am the type that wants to get the most out of my AT's but I feel making a pure human will cost several times more than the tri-form ( I love my tri-form and had lots of fun with it, but I'm "Get the most out of i that you can"guy) one which wasn't more than a billion and a half depending on current prices . She's never forced anything on me ( and isn't now ) or steered me wrong yet. I was just wondering what those who know MUCH more than me had any thoughts. I'm willing to farm up the drops and cash I would just honestly like to hear the views of those that know much more than me a second oppinion one could say on the whole human only surpassing tri-form or not as a way to get the most out of the AT. ( sorry for any spelling or grammar mistakes I'm very tired )