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For all around goodness I'd probably go with Ill/Kin.

1v1 wise that is.

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Fun build but hardly the best for 1 on 1.

I think my ice / kin will be a powerhouse for 1 on 1s against anything but rad, storm and SR.

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hhmmmm....a good build for teams but 1v1 wheres your damage coming from?

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Epics

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Yup...will be able to do over 700 points of damage with a single blast providing you have containment (which is fairly easy with /kin)

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a good player is very hard to achieve containment on in 1v1s

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For all around goodness I'd probably go with Ill/Kin.

1v1 wise that is.

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Fun build but hardly the best for 1 on 1.

I think my ice / kin will be a powerhouse for 1 on 1s against anything but rad, storm and SR.

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hhmmmm....a good build for teams but 1v1 wheres your damage coming from?

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Make sure you use QS on it.

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Took the words right off my keyboard.

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Very true...forgot about that 'cept the fact I would still not have it in my PvP build since in more or less every fight I've been in people have been speed boosted thus making them slow resistant

I can see the uses for it, but because of the long recharge I would probably go for other powers.

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take the kin out of the game then a good kin buffin can take many controller powers out of the game but u shouldnt not take a power in case they have a kin

would anybody from any server be interested in having a night either weekly or fortnightly on test server for 1v1s? there is a real shortage of people to fight on the same server in 1v1 and it wud be gr8 fun to fight some new people if any other servers are interested?

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I'll be on test...

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ur gonna turn up to the 8man matches for the first time?! will be good to have u join us

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ok 2 of the lions just duo'd lusca and theres no way that can be solo'd since i5

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Imaginary on defiant has

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i seriously seriously doubt it, the tentacles are fine its the head thats the problem

ok 2 of the lions just duo'd lusca and theres no way that can be solo'd since i5

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I changed my mind.

* / kin troller, primary doesnt matter that much. I prolly prefer ice, because of consept.
emp defender.
spines / regen scrapper.
ice / nrg tank
ice / nrg blaster.

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i agree with the first three, i'd have invul/energy tank and elec/enrgy blaster tho

i've been thinking about this and my answer as a troller is to put hold on auto fire on live, while pvp'in on test say hello to lag

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iirc imaginary soloed her (ill/rad troller... then again, what can't an ill/rad solo apart from hami? )

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when was that? cos b4 it got its lvl taken away the world and their dog solo'd her including my invul/ice tank lol

indeed, 1 tank and 2 trollers

the three lions just pwnd lusca

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Yeah still on at 8.30 Meet on test again ?

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i'll be there

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From what ive seen /storm would beat */kin or */rad. ( what i say is from personal exp) The -acc from hurricane sorts most kin out as they relyl on acc for most of their PvP powers. cant self heal -end etc if cant land a hit.
Rad again releyies on -acc but F.rain slotted with DefDuffs over powers the acc debuffs imo. as far as Primarys go fire imps are useless against a stormie even with ID. Ice primary slows yes but you get 2 good slows with storm with F. rain and snow storm. Worm hole from grav Primary lets you keep most foes -acc and away from things like hot feet. Illu pets can be a problem but if u let them spawn their pets 1st its not hard to stick your sing in the middle of em to take the aggro. Mind can be a problem with TK but then again worm hole can be a great counter to it. Grav/storm ftw!!. All that said and i dropped worm hole from my build for some stupid reason

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ok but the point i was trying to make is that across the board i believe fire/kin can make mince meat out of more builds than any other build. yes grav/storm can beat fire/kin as u demonstrated but invul/energy can beat grav/storm just as easily and fire/kin can pwn invul/energy. any build can beat another but imo fire/kin can beat and stand up to more builds than any other

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Hi m8, you must have wrote your post the same time as me as i didnt see it before i started. And i agree with everything you say

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lol yeah didnt notice that we were a minute apart i think as far as trollers go grav/storm wud trump them all but fire/kin will eat the scrappers and tanks don't get me started on them nasty blappers tho

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From what ive seen /storm would beat */kin or */rad. ( what i say is from personal exp) The -acc from hurricane sorts most kin out as they relyl on acc for most of their PvP powers. cant self heal -end etc if cant land a hit.
Rad again releyies on -acc but F.rain slotted with DefDuffs over powers the acc debuffs imo. as far as Primarys go fire imps are useless against a stormie even with ID. Ice primary slows yes but you get 2 good slows with storm with F. rain and snow storm. Worm hole from grav Primary lets you keep most foes -acc and away from things like hot feet. Illu pets can be a problem but if u let them spawn their pets 1st its not hard to stick your sing in the middle of em to take the aggro. Mind can be a problem with TK but then again worm hole can be a great counter to it. Grav/storm ftw!!. All that said and i dropped worm hole from my build for some stupid reason

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ok but the point i was trying to make is that across the board i believe fire/kin can make mince meat out of more builds than any other build. yes grav/storm can beat fire/kin as u demonstrated but invul/energy can beat grav/storm just as easily and fire/kin can pwn invul/energy. any build can beat another but imo fire/kin can beat and stand up to more builds than any other

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For PvP - Union, I think is the better choice.

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Quite frankly I'm shocked and ashamed of you.

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T'is the truth!!

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i have to agree completely here as union have had multiple teams at the international matches every monday and defiant have appeared...once is it?

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After last night's dispaly m8 ill make sure u get an invite

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It's public, I'm pretty sure I didn't get an invite - just joined it.

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Im pretty sure KS and cherry are the only one's with invite rights. But im sure they will invite sham's twin

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(made bold for emphasis) u wish he was...

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what do u mean by "hit or miss"?

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Kinetics has to hit with its buffs, debuffs and heals, Rad doesnt, apart from its slow.

Thats what I mean .

Gorgog

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ok except i hardly ever miss unless i'm debuffed, was discussing this with a mate and the great thing about /kin instead of /rad is u can give imps SB and ID, making them unstoppable killing machines an aoe stun/hold attack wud put /rad's imps out of the game leaving u wide open...

fire/x wud have aim as is a primary....
fire/fire blasters go very well with an empath

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On a related note, take a look at this site

www.mmoart.com

The quality of these is unbelievable. I was VERY tempted to try and get one done featuring my CoV/CoH characters facing off and framing it on the wall in my house...

Then I realised that no matter how I explained it to visitors, the fact I'd spent a couple of hundred quid on a painting of two computer game characters would condemn me to geekhood for eternity

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Well, this is free

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That is very true, althoug hI would love ny robot MM in a sketch it is a bit expensive.

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it is indeed expensive but u have to take into account its one guy drawing, inking and colouring your picture and he can only sell it to you. with a comic they have individual drawers, inkers and colourers so each picture can be finished a lot faster and can then be sold to multiple customers. considering the time and effort he takes I think the prices are actually pretty reasonable

ne1 know the %chance of repel detoggling?

any practise this week ks?

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/kin has a big problem in 1on1's. No autohit self heal.

When fighting /kin trollers, dont let him get into range and use trafusion to heal himself.


My money is on the /rad in most situations.

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with siphon speed this has never been a problem for me...

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Hmm, interesting thread...

Is there a lack of love for the Ice or Earth sets? I'm playing an Ice/Kin controller, and at level 24 am quite easily soloing on Invincible, although due to other reasons I haven't taken Stamina, so there is the odd minute of downtime now and then. A friend who made an Earth/Kin also solos happily, we had originally planned to team with each other to 50 (along with her bf who made a Fire/Rad to join us) but she's levelling an alt right now, so I'm just out and about.

Actually, I think I have a pair of Ice/Kins (16, 24), a Fire/Rad (6), and a Ill/Emp (50). The 50 was an accident, so I don't really count him, and the Fire/Rad I'm hoping to build into a bit of a stalker hunter (eventually), and is a lower priority.

Shrug.

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i love the ice and earth sets however this thread is on solo trollers and for solo mind, illusion and fire are a lot faster to rip though enemies, earth and ice are awesome sets but only really shine in teams imo

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I'd go with the majority here. Illusion/Fire + Rad for a powerful early / mid build. You can spend your teens cleaning out masses of mobs in Boomtown and the like. With Fire I'd be harvesting masses of Blue/Green minions, with Illusion maybe avoid Hazard Zones and take on smaller groups of Yellows/Oranges, esp Lieuts and bosses.

Post 38 Kinetics is the Damage king, but you've to get to 38 first . Also as I've said before soloing kinetics seems like such a waste thanks to Speed Boosts. The SB love really should be spread around.

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when soloing with my fire/kin my imps love the SB