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Right...I gotta see me this then XD

Stormy, it exists already.
It's called the arena.

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If we're talking about crap spewing, I'm calling it on that bloody acursed 'Quants are nerfed their all pansies' absolute guff.

Just because you(nom-specific) don't find Quants/Voids hard doesn't mean everyone doesn't mind them!
The ammount of times those god-damned kb-mongering scumbag mercs have caused me a helluva lot of pain is not something I really want to recount. Needless to say; Yes, they no longer do cheating, un-typed damage. But they still do a very high ammount of damage, even at minion level, have a near 100% KB chance and a chance for stun, along with a very fast rate of fire for a weapon that, on their lonesome, can kill you in about three shots.

Do I want rid of them? No. But I wish people would stop running this crap up every. Single. God-damned time. It hacks me off something royal.

Khelds are fine and, when played right, decent ATs. Yes, they need some slight buffage and bug fixing (form change iterupts, looking at you!) and such. But my Warshade on a team is an engine of corpse exploding destruction, a sort of purple, cloud form dark matter gunship. And my PB girl slaps stuff silly even solo. It'd just be nice to have the kinks ironed out.

You called?

But yes, it's true. Having to have hair with hats sucks.

This gets an almighty /SIGNED from me. The ammount of times I've died due to sodding dwarf form not kicking in when it SHOULD have is unacceptable. And theres no good reason for the animation to take so long, either.

Yeahl, I don't doubt that Paragon and the Rogues could be make to look as purty as Praetoria.

But I also think that, what with too many zones sat there already built and lacking in any content at all, it'd be crimin- no, sorry, it IS criminal to waste them.

Perez Park; Zones fine. Add missions to help fight the gangs, investigate the CoT and learn more about the wierd Hydra men.

Dark Astoria; Combat the Banished Pantheons prescence in DA, and any other groups are there (You can tell how little I've used the zone)

Eden; Push into the heart of Hamidons foothold in Paragon and send a clear message that his evil schemes won't work.

Crey's Folly; Stop the scavengers from getting their hands on dangerous experimental tech, learn more about the dark truth behind Creys shiny corporate exterior, and engage Nemesis and the Rikti as they plot and scheme.

Terra Volta; Fire in the Sky as you throw down with the Sky Raiders, making it perfectly clear that crime does not pay. Not in your city!


Boomtown is the only one that would need an actual graphical overhaul, due to the fact that lore now has mentioned it being in the process of being rebuilt. That and, while the other zones have awesome settings to them, theres something a little samey about miles of rubble and wasteland. It feels too much like a Portal Corp mission.
And ye gods those things need re-vamping badly. Defeat alls on Large Open city maps are...lets just say that rage occurs. In large ammounts.

Yessss, give in to your anger!
Your rage, it tastes like...burnt sugar

...Revamping...not progressive....

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*facedesk*

See, I'm gonna be interested to see how Cataclysm turns out, for the express reason that it does exactly what I've been talking about; overhauling the main game content to (they say) make it less terribad.

Anyway, they have a very valid excuse to redo the old stuff;
"This stuff was left over by the previous lead dev and, while providing a much needed basis for the game, we have taken the lessons learned and applied ourselves to adding the variety and quality of content that players have come to expect from a Paragon Studios product."

*Pfft, pfft!* See? I even sullied my tongue with marketting speak, because that's exactly how it'd be wrapped


The 'Core Game' is essentially that; what players pay for with no bells and whistles added. They pay, they play. Expansions are not the Core Game. They can be gold plated, but they are still an extra add-on that people have to get, making their quality irrelevant when it comes to Trial players and the like. All they will get is the rusted old crap that was left over from the early issues.

And I just find the last part so intrinsically flawed because...well...surely if something is being ignored it should be fixed? Graphical bugs get fixed, powerset suck-points get buffed and tweaked...why are old zones any different?

I'll say it again.
Why, other than from a perspective point of view, are 'New Shinies!' touted as being better than getting rid of old junk and replacing it with something high quality, using all the current day tech?

You and the hundreds of others who asked for it..?

Never contested that

See, maybe it's just me. But I'd love to take a shot at something done ages ago that is pretty much unanimously agreed to be bad and make it better. Redoing all the old, Jackanist blueside stuff, with the tech we have now? That sounds fantastic to me.

Ok, I think I got a bit carried away there But my point is;

How many new players do you think go to Dark Astoria? Perez? Boomtown? Creys Folly? Eden? Heck, how many old players go there?

I would happily wager that number is very, very low, limited to people sent there by mission arcs or TFs. I mean, aside from doing the TFs and hunting eyeballs, what about the Shadow Shard?

Instead of making 'Yet another new zone', what is wrong with taking a perfectly good zone, in most cases quite a cool zone with neat design and a good background, and add content to it? Half the work, namely the environment, is already done!

I don't deny, GR was a good idea and incredibly well done.

What I'm saying is that theres no excuse for the rest of the game, the core game, to not be the same high quality that Praetoria is. The entire game should be as good as that, because it can be.

See above, really. The core of the game should be strong, not relying on New Shinies to stand up by itself. Rusting core components are never a good thing.

OI!
It's my villanous right to be right...yet foiled at every turn.


Well...that's your right too

And I will always argue that that perception is flawed and in fact downright eroneous.

New zones, from this point on, do nothing but spread players out even more and leave older zones even further estranged from everything. Yes, they have new shinies. Great. In GR's case, however, that new shiny is in fact locked away behind the expansion. If players DONT get the expansion, and people looking at trying a game will likely not, instead going for the Trial or a months play, they get exactly 0% of the new shinies. Instead getting stuck with the old rust, which makes them think 'Hey, this is it? I heard this game had new, cool stuff in it? What a load of guff!' /quit
I would even argue new zones are, at the moment, potentially more damaging than doing nothing to the game, due to the above.

Now to the revamps; Not only does it make the old zones more appealing to new comers, it's also a fresh lick of paint and new content that older gamers will enjoy. Hell, just how often have you heard people say "I'm sick of Mercy/Atlas/Galaxy/Kings/Insert low level zone here!", or sick of old missions? I'll bet you that number is very high.
So, what does revamping achieve?
-New mission arcs that get rid of the old junk and raise the baseline standard of the game
-Maintains high standard despite not being expansion content
-New content for old players, better content for new players
-Fill in empty zones, effectively fulfilling the same purpose as a whole new zone without actually having to add one in.

I just cannot see ANY logical sense behind 'New shinies!' being better than revamping the old stuff to a high quality. It makes NO sense at all.

That makes no sense. Why's that any different from every other AT that can already do that? Sometimes worse than others, due to forcefields, shields, ice etc. Khelds are the least horrible when it comes to that.

/rant

The coiling mass of shadow that was Nightwalker drew itself upright, not moving an inch as abyssal purple eyes watched the creature charge. Then, just as it was about to trample him, the shadowy form extended one arm of dark energy.

The creature passed right through, it's charge uninterupted and unhindered. It carried on for a few more strides, before suddenly losing all momentum and staggering, finally hitting the floor with all the grace of what it now was; a sack of lifeless meat and bone.

The Nightwalker examined the ghostly life essence that clung and writhed around the shadowy replicas of fingers on his right hand, before consuming it in one swift motion. Then, just as calmly, the figure shape dissolved, becoming little more than a dark fog that clung to the floor, waiting once moe while it's senses roamed further afield.