Angry_Citizen

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I just want to say that I was playing my dark/arrow defender the other night, and I'd recently picked up Temp Invulnerability (epic power pool). I don't think it was even slotted yet, or might have had one lvl 40 resist damage in it. I was getting 30% resist on smashing/lethal from that power alone.

Anyway, I went to check was my damager resist was... all told, 72.5% vs smashing/lethal and several other types of damage. Woo! defender can tank!

(Seriously... dark defenders can tank, after a fashion...)

See... we had two fire shielders on our team. ^_^ Double fire shields + temp invul FTW!

Point is, that was not a team in need of a lot of healing...

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Well, to be perfectly blunt, you could've done the same thing with two Emps. Combined, they could alternate regen auras to boost a team into 1000% +regen territory for--random guess here--about 70/80% of the time if they work at it. On top of being able to supply the whole team--including each other--with Fortitude. And even if they were totally lazy, I'd be willing to bet they could keep the team reasonably healthy without even dipping into their buffs. Particularly if they're reasonably skilled.

Two of any support class means you're not likely to need any more, and if they're able to synchronise their efforts (like the two emps or two shielders) then it's not likely the team will desire another effect (I.E. a team with two sonic defenders likely won't need a bubbler or emp and two emps likely won't need a sonic or FF).

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Who needs heals? Green inspirations are cheap to buy, and if you don't have any, you can make some by combining. Heck, they're dropping all the time as long as long as you leave a spot open.

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Who needs sonic buffs? Orange inspirations are cheap to buy, and if you don't have any, you can make some by combining. Heck, they're dropping all the time as long as long [sic] as you leave a spot open.

Who needs Stamina? Blue inspirations are cheap to buy, and if you don't have any, you can make some by combining. Heck, they're dropping all the time as long as long [sic] as you leave a spot open.

Who needs mez protection? Break Free inspirations are cheap to buy, and if you don't have any, you can make some by combining. Heck, they're dropping all the time as long as long [sic] as you leave a spot open.

Who needs damage buffs? Red inspirations are cheap to buy, and if you don't have any, you can make some by combining. Heck, they're dropping all the time as long as long [sick of siccing] as you leave a spot open.

Who needs accuracy enhancements? Yellow inspirations are cheap to buy, and if you don't have any, you can make some by combining. Heck, they're dropping all the time as long as long [EFFIN SICK of SICCING... OI!] as you leave a spot open.

Man! Lets just allow the inspirations to play the game for us. Nevermind that silly thing known as common bloody sense that may or may not be telling us that keeping green insps stocked reduces your supply of other insps; ergo, someone with a heal power may just be slightly beneficial.

*seethe*

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Someone relaying on the res buffs or SB better play Scrabble(tm)

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I can play that game too. Heals and alpha takers let you do things that otherwise could not be done. Do you advocate a Nin stalker not taking Sha? Because anyone benefiting from a heal should play Scrabble.

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This is a rage post about why I refuse to invite people who advertise themselves as a healer and why I usually end up kicking people who ask for a healer.

What's the matter, Shibbs? Like in every other MMO and even D&D, you need a healer class or your team blows!

Wrong. In CoX, the conflicts are normally always massively one sided. As in, you can tank something effortlessly, or it will chew through 90% of your health in one hit and a 600 health heal isn't going to save you. Very rarely are there encounters that are honestly in the middle.

Let's compare buffs vs single target heals. In empathy, heal other will give back about 600 health - your average tank will have about 2000 health. Sonic's shields however will give you 40% damage resistance. So, if something hits you for 1000 damage, 400 of that bites the dust passively - every time it hits you.

An empath is capable of healing 900 (we'll say 900 assuming they are following you using their AOE heal and single target) every 6 seconds (activation time + recharge). So, if you're fighting one person, who wins? The empath.

However, since sonic buffs protect passively, if you're fighting a group which does 4000 damage per attack wave, 1600 of that is mitigated.

No. I am not saying empathy is worthless, and no, I did not compare the other aspects of the set versus the other aspects of sonic aside from the shields.

Perhaps I've just been really lucky but I've never really been in a situation where a heal has saved me or the team, not as a frontliner or a backliner.

tl;dr my point is that buffs > heals and you make yourself look like a total newbie by advertising as or requesting a 'healer' and you don't belong doing taskforces.

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Wow. I haven't seen someone completely avoid being correct since my last debate with Totality.

I'd rather have an Empath than a Sonic in most team scenarios, as long as both are played by reasonably skilled individuals. The Empath can bump up defences and pop me a heal from time to time, and if I'm lucky, spot me an Adrenalin Boost and turn me into a God of Armageddon. Speaking as an Empathy player, the heals are very important; just as important as Fortitude.

Know how everyone brings AoE to the table because "nothing else matters"? Well, you're there to ensure their delusions continue. When the minions drop, you're there to make the boss drop very soon after.

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The screams of "I didn't pay $400 bucks for THIS, omg they stole my munnies!" would be deafening.

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#1, I doubt it'd be $400. Just sayin'.

#2, since when has anyone ever cared about a few malcontents complaining?

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You guys missed the primary reason that CoH doesn't have a lifetime subscription.

The "I regret buying a lifetime subscription to this game! I'm quitting!!" posts every open beta would get really old.

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It's a one-time fee. There are no posts saying "I regret the 50 bucks I spent on this game and subsequent updates!" so your argument just shot itself in the foot with a freakin' railgun.

Were it a continuous billing that could never be stopped, yeah, you'd be right. But the arguments against a one-time subscription are thin at best. The only possible argument against it is datamining that shows a very high retention level that, if compared in monthly fees, would cause a drop in income should a lifetime subscription be implemented.

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LOL it's hilarious that people criticize me right out of the box. Some of you really need to cut down on whatever is making you so .. jerky.

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Don't make flamebait posts and you'll stop getting flamed.

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Speaking as a master flamebaiter, this particular one is about as flamebait-worthy as the "Loss of a Hero" thread. In other words, not at all.

I think it's sad that merely mentioning a feature from another game is grounds for the flamebait level. I'd actually love a lifetime subscription. Would mean I wouldn't have to cancel in a few months.

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Well, if my math does not fail me, thats just about 13 months subscription to CoH, assuming you're paying monthly.
Why would NC Soft/ Paragon want to give you a lifetime of use for just over 1 year of payment?
Sounds like a pretty poor business model to me.

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Why does Lotro? Perhaps because the quantity of year-plus vets is lower than one might assume.

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Ok, i would like to know what the hell is wrong with the developers for this game. Are you serious? taking the damage off of domination...?????? WE ARE DOMINATORS.... WE DOMINATE..... should keep the damage buff. oh and PSW....? why would u lower the dmg on that?????? its A TIER 9 POWER.... its supposed to be.... good.... good job Devs. oh and positron.... GG ON NERFING AE.... the most tarded thing you've done....

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Amusingly, the "damage nerf" to Psychic Shockwave just about evens out when you consider the damage buff to Dominators as a whole. Instead of dealing with highs and lows, now you get a consistent high. Plus you don't have to wait 38 levels to stop sucking. Now you're about even with other secondaries from level one. How cool is that?

You know, I'm not trying to be mean to you Dominator players out here, but you guys should take a look at how Stalker players reacted to their buff and try to model your posts off them. And think: You guys got an even better buff, in my opinion.

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...this inexcusable display of sheer intolerance. I hate people like you...

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Just felt like taking a look at something here.

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I'm intolerant towards intolerance. I don't care if that creates a paradox of universe-splitting proportions.

Grr. Just get so pissed off sometimes. /Carlin

I'm just going to weigh in here on this thread in general.

The OP and The_Alt_oholic are lowlife scum. Sorry, but I've never seen anyone so worked up over someone else's enjoyment, even when that enjoyment affects them in no way, shape or form. If those people were banned for farming, they'd still not play with you. You'd still "have trouble finding teams" or whatever your excuse is for this inexcusable display of sheer intolerance. I hate people like you who feel the need to threaten a very large mass of players with loss of account--essentially the MMO version of the death penalty--simply because they play the game in the way they see fit.

Please go back to the Spanish Inquisition, you silly pair of McCarthyists. Then you can play with the big boys instead of bothering us.

PS: Man I love my PL'd Crab Spider... never would've gotten one otherwise.

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Obviously I haven't made it high enough yet to try out ET and but I'm not thinking that I'm going to like taking dmg just to use an attack. Now I know it can work as a great opener but is it really worth it after that?

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The hit point loss typically proves inconsequential next to the immense damage inflicted.

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hmmm, ok, so what's the real strength of /nin then because with no resistances and what seems to be a lack of utility, I guess I'm not seeing it. Maybe I should have gone with /elec or /WP?

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Lack of utility? The fact that it's defence-based is utility in itself. The interrupts from every mob in the game hitting you while Hidden or Placated will drive you nuts.

That's aside from silly things like one of the best self heals in the game, a god mode, being endurance friendly, a cone mez that doesn't aggro, and something that makes the AI spaz out. No utility. None.

I can't believe this. The devs are just so messed up in this game. They destroy the Mecca of farmers with those dumb looking robots just because they can't patch up their game properly.

I'm cancelling. See y'all in WoW.

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A DM Stalker, on the other hand, can outdamage essentially all CoV ATs short of a full-Fury-and-damage-buffed Brute against single targets in both burst and DoT.

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Yeah, I'm sorry, but the rhetoric is just getting silly now. I know you like the DM Kool-Aid. I've had a sip or two myself in the past and I must say, it is indeed yummy. Could you put it down for 2 seconds and back up this little nugget with some proof? Perhaps a video? I'm not much of a numbers guy, so if you could please type slowly so that my fellow meatheads that don't possess your wisdom can comprehend?

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If it were about four months ago, I'd probably acquiesce, but as it is now, I simply don't feel it's important enough to prove my point to slog through hours of calculations. While it's likely less safe to have made the quoted claim, I don't think it's rocket science to figure out that between the tremendously fast cast times and the new Siphon Life, DM reigns solely supreme against all challengers in Stalker single target damage output.

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I'd take a boss over a mob any day.

If you're fighting a mob, you concentrate on the mob, not the boss. It's the mob that will kill you faster than the boss.

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Not even close to accurate. When bosses have higher accuracy, higher mez protection and vastly superior damage to minions, bosses are the threat, even if minions outnumber them 7-1. Additionally, what's always left standing in a team setting? The minions, or the bosses? The latter in nearly all situations.

The point: AoE is taken care of in team settings. Stalkers should focus more on single target threats. Elec can fill the AoE role and contribute single target damage in meaningful chunks, but can do neither more effectively than a Corruptor in the long run. A DM Stalker, on the other hand, can outdamage essentially all CoV ATs short of a full-Fury-and-damage-buffed Brute against single targets in both burst and DoT.

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Can you TP into a large spawn with DM, knock them all down and take them all out with 2 powers? I don't think so.

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Neither can Elec, because large spawn = bosses and lieutenants. While you're potentially whittling away on the bosses, I'm whittling away on the minions and downing them one at a time in a couple shots. Which threat would you rather face?

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And a New CoH was crowned.

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A new CoH where heroes fight evil in ... a virtual reality sim. And where evil pretends to commit crime.

If the stories were halfway decent, and if the arc limitations weren't so harsh, MA might've been pretty interesting.

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Gotta throw my vote in for DM/Nin. Pretty amazing is what I would call it.

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Gotta throw in an opposite vote. But I think this is largely personal preference because I find DM to be pretty boring. Yes a good combo, good damage, and all that but I actually deleted my DM/Nin. Whereas I have kept and ran a Claws/Nin to 50 and doing the same with an Elec/Nin.

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But the point is power, not whether or not a set is--ahem--'boring'. Claws cannot be seriously compared with DM.

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pve wise elec has no equal, seriously yo try a hidden thunderstrike and AS and entire group of ppl all at once, its sick.

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Then you try and kill a boss, and just stand there spamming AS because you don't have any REAL single target damage...

Think of it this way. Either you play through the low levels without Stamina, grinding out the same [censored] content you've hit up three dozen other times, or you grind out the same [censored] content that's slightly more epic and which appears to receive quite a bit more attention which you've only hit up a couple dozen other times, while doing it with Stamina.

In short: Maybe, just maybe, someone doesn't really see a difference between grinding low level content or burning through to the high level stuff, except less enjoyment in the former.

Besides, why on Earth do you care?

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Well, considering the pipes are part of the PTS (spoilers) I never really considered them volcanic/geothermal... There's "lava" under seemingly every cave in Paragon City but no surface volcanic activity.

My biggest surprise is that the eruption was big enough to split an island into 4 pieces, but yet there's no story about it, as far as I can tell.

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"Designed by Dr. Aeon, the Power Transference System, or P.T.S., is a connection of pipes in Cap au Diable which pumps the geothermal energy from Mount Diable and turns it into useful energy for the citizens of that zone." - Paragonwiki

>_> Putting that link in your statement, and then saying you're surprised that they're potentially volcanic/geothermal is a bit of a silly thing to do, mang.

Though I get what you mean, considering all of the hulabaloo surrounding the PTS itself (including any and all spoilers), but the main thing is that they are actually utilizing geothermal energy. There's also a lot of things that could have lead to an island splitting - depending on the size of the island and the current shelf state, plus the nature of the first eruption, it could very well have done just that. It's been documented or theorized about before, after all (Like here).

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Er yeah, there's no demon under Mt. Diable, none whatsoever.

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I don't usually look at the combat tab, but ocassionally something happens that's so unexpected I have to scroll back and see what just happened.

So on my first excursion into the Shadow Shard, at level 42, after a surprise defeat, I see this...

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Overseer HITS! Chomp power had an 88.82% chance to hit...

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Just to explain, I was on an /SR scrapper, with all the passives, and the 3 toggles, and Weave... and Elude.

So um... these guys are quite accurate, yes?

I haven't been this shocked by a first encounter with a new enemy group since my MM stepped off the ferry in Sharkhead and thought "Demolitionists, eh? They don't look that dangerous..."

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Whoa, you managed to get them down to only 88%? Kudos mate.

Yeah, it's pretty much a skippable power for a soft-capped SR stalker. You're nearly immune to defence debuffs, and being soft capped, you're about as high as you can go for nearly all critters in the game.