Windenergy21

I agree 100% here too, no reason it shouldnt grant both positional and typed defense. Thinking its more of a bug, either way I say we all petition it.

Wron, it takes 2 applications to IMMOBILIZE the bosses, but one application will still do the -kb protection on the bosses. I've spammed this on my fire/storm. Usually i'm spamming cages so tornado can deal damage and lightning storm doesnt knock them back anyways, so tossing a bonfire in the mix doesn't flutter me at all. I still wouldnt SLOT it for damage unless going for the 5 positrons blast set bonuses. But i use it as such at random times if i feel like it. If you get enemies in a corner, if you place it properly bonfire alone will keep the enmies in the corner even without freezing rain/hurricane/snow storm etc, so it only helps at that point.

I've got my cages slotted 3acc/2end right now i believe, will use a few trap of the hunter and then whateveri need in the other 2 slots when i get to it, but it doesn't do too bad.

Dang, i wanted blessing of the zephyr for sprint, for the run speed and end reduction as a way for a defense bonus, but only one of them, not in the vet powers also. Stupid people ruining it for the rest of us by abusing stuff XD.

You shouldn't need CP, You'll find with Consume slotted, 60-70 seconds recharge should be more than enough. Granted VERY largely, i'm abhorred by its base recharge time for what it does. It should easily be on a 120 or 90 second base recharge. But when your build is fully IOd it serves its purpose.

See that's the thing, i'm not saying you'll never die (though it shoudln't be too often with what i've shown) Its not goign to happen so often that you need to bother slotting RotP. One 50 recharge in it with your bonuses + hasten should keep it up more than often enough. As it continues to knock back in 3 consecutive tics, most enemies only get the first tic of damage anyways, and the stun, usually doesn't matter cause it doesn't last much longer than your 10 second invincibility period after using RotP where enemies can't hurt you anyways.

I would most definitely take the power, Its my favorite rez in the game, but its not worth slotting IMO.

could just say fair enough, if its something you notice enough to make you happy to each his own. Stat-wise, and personally, I never notice the difference. After your bonuses and slotting i just kinda ignore the downtime.

Yeah on my regen's i only use 5 as well, because i'm not thinking a lick of it for endurance consumption, only for its heal/recharge values. But for a fire armor its not like you need it terribly, but it helps a little bit, and a tiny bit of psi resistance can't hurt either.

Much use not terribly, but having consume, means you can focus less on recovery with the power available.

And doh, looked to fast wasn't thinking about the obliteration's melee defense you already used in DT. Though likewise you could slot sciroccos for some aoe defense. Or likewise, slot the obliteration, and then change a TOD in crane kick to Mako's (grants better recharge, for your main ST mitigating ability). And boost your ranged defense up by 3.75%.

Are you trying to do a pvp build also? Noticed the increased perception proc in your FA in that build, FA already boosts perception in PvE by more than you'd ever need really. Also confused as to why you keep slotting RotP with AA, i understand the bonuses, but thats 4 slots pretty much wasted on a power that doesn't need them. I'd at least put those into focused accuracy, if you care more about the recharge than the defense bonuses in it you can put in 5 adjusted targetttings, granting better accuracy through more to hit/9% acc bonus, you get 5% vs 10% recharge, but thats not the worst thing ever, by slotting FA instead also you are GREATLY boosting the end discount on FA as well.

You'll definitely just want 3 slots in hasten btw, ED cap and all.

The overall defense of this build is far less as well, missing tough too. I've played fire tanks before, and they're pretty squishy. With the bonuses from defense + tough/weave its makes it decently sturdy enough. ET is nice to have as well though. Any toon i've had laser beam eyes on i find i almost never use it, always seems like the animation is too long where i coudl get off 2 melee attacks before it finishes.

Also, focus chi slotting, as mentioned i'd put the gaussians set in FA. 2 recharge IOs that are 50 will give you 10% more recharge in focus chi as it is anyways, and that's all you really need it for. But as mentioned slot-wise, bumping from RotP into focus chi then (regarding 6 gaussians in FA) you can put 5 adjusted targettings in focus chi, capping its recharge and still getting those bonuses.

As to the +recharge procs you keep seeming to put in there, i've never really found a good enough use out of them. Even on my ff/psy i used, i'd get the chances (16 target cap as opposed to 10 target cap from dragons dail and energy torrent) from psy tornado and repulsion bomb. They may be a little longer on recharge, but what i found was even with 2 of them, even if it went off every time, the buff only lasting 5 seconds was not enough of an impact to warrant using and having just a chance for it to go off. Even if you are at max targets, (10 cap) you're still looking at it going off on average once every other mob, where i've always found simply slotting a 50 recharge IO in those aoe poewrs to be much more efficient and reliable.

Healing flames, 6 numinas may give a defense bonus, but to get all 6 of those enhancementsi s going to cost you probalby around 100 mil, versus 6 doctored wounds which with salvage/crafting probably won't cost you more than 10 mil, while granting a recharge bonus in the process instead of fairly unnecessary regeneration, and a small hp boost. I'd save the money for the numina and put a miracle in health instead.

and catwhoord mentioned how he's not a fan of the set as a whole either, guess that inlcudes the proc. But i think the OP edited his original post, so i didn't see anything about this thread being just about the proc, seemed like it was the decimation set in general. Oh well, i stand by what i say, i generally avoid procs unless they are ABSOLUTELY necessary for bonuses like touch of death and mako for defense bonuses.

I figured I was going to see this if you considered it, yes s/l would be better defense. BUT just be aware, the uncrafted kinetic combat dam/end/rech IO right now is currently 60-80 mil just for that one alone, and you'll be using 4 of them. With salvage, average to 70 mil each, thats 280 mil just for those 4 enhancments. Not to mention the rest of the set. Personally it's not worth bothering with it. The only time i'd use kinetic combat, is if you're trying to cap an invuln's smash/lethal defense or boost up a willpowers. Its too expensive for what its worth personally otherwise. Whereas going for recharge (in addition to the 1.13% max hp per set, and 7% accuracy per set, and if you 6 slot 2.5% psy resistance per set) Crushing impact is a LOT LOT LOT cheaper for your melee attacks.

Also, you'll want hurdle, not swift. Mixed with combat jumping you'll get MUCH better combat movement this way.

Also, looking at the build you have, i'm not sure if i'd personally bother with burn, you may have dragons tail, but even then especially as a scrapper you'll be moving around and dealing damage and burn is kinda slow personally and hard to get good use out of unless you're forcing yourself to go. Personally i'd go weapons mastery. When going for defense you can 6 slot gaussians into t-drone for 2.5% positional defense and good accuracy helping stats. And caltrops is one of the best mitigation tools, theyll run slow, and in "fear" away from you, and you'll still be knocking them down.

The end discount is a bit excessive on blazing aura as well when its not capped for damage. From what I mentioned before i'd less worry about s/l defense, and choose between melee or ranged.

I'd also suggest picking up hasten. The main reasons are again for healing flames, the faster that's up the better. And VERY largely dragon's tail. With good rech bonuses and hasten, you can pretty much perma knock down enemies when hasten is up with dragon's tail and they can't fight back at all, kinda helps my ranged is better than melee defense argument. Hence the build i'll show is going to be geared towards ranged defense.

Also, tough will go a long way to help, probably more-so than defense bonuses will, especially when not being altogether that close to the cap. The build i'm going to show you, be aware just how much better survival is, for pretty much very little damage loss, by ditching burn for weave. FYI, with the bonuses i give, and consume end shouldn't be that big of an issue. Actually going to ditch burn altogether to show you, if it HAS to stay (can't imagine why) you could swap it with weave.

I'd go for recharge first and foremost, especially as a ma/fire scrapper. Not only is having the heal up faster a big boon, but you will be able to use dragon's tail more often, which is your greatest mitigation tool available to you, in addition to dealing more damage to the enemies faster.


As to melee versus ranged defense. I find ranged to be just as effective in a build like fire armor. Most debuffs come from ranged attacks, think council marskman grrr. When they ARE in melee, that's where your dragon's tail and vs bosses your crane kick will be coming in to play to mitigate damage. And when slotting for ranged vs melee defense, with the heal from fire armor, if all else fails, and you need to kite enemies to give you time to get your healing flames used again, ranged defense will help you a lot more during this time. If you've ever played a blapper before, using ranged defense on this build shouldn't be hard.

And on to your regeneration note, regeneration on a fire armor is pretty insignificant considering how much of it is trumped by the sheer amount of healing you get from healing flames. Unless you are getting around regens level of regeneration you're more than likely not going to notice any regeneration for the most part you obtain. You'll want to go for max HP bonuses, and recharge instead of regeneration.

Um.... what's bloodthirst?

That's what divine avalanche is there for my good man.

But you have to factor in what the cones are doing for you to save you endurance, that's why cones are so great. Even with some line-up time, they are more over worth it, which in addition the line-up time (not saying its huge, just additive) means your not attacking to get the most out of the cones, which means not using end during that time. Letting you take out enemies with max efficiency, via cones, and not wasting damage by having smaller attacks, IS what lets it be a more endurance efficient set than others with the same "DPE" values. Its never so cut and dry as to "they're all the same"

Hey I said one could dream, didn't say i even had an inkling of a thought that it would actually happen. You need to take a breather lol

I take offense at two things. One, that you make it seem like the difference is SO huge that GC trumps SOTW so unfavorably. And two, having a faster lower damaging attack having a higher DPA that its higher damage slower recharging brother-power. It does not follow the standardized rules. While being some-what unique in itself, good for GC, but very confusing.

On the endurance question, using GC twice versus SoTW once, no its not going to impact much, but the situation is that you use GC multiple upon multiple times, they add up. Never said that a kat/wp would EVER have end probelms, was referring to katana in general. I just wish that Divine Avalanche had GC's animation and activation time One can dream eh?

NR + hurdle is, NR + swift/sprint is only like a little over 40 mph, but NR + hurdle is over 60MPH with a 50 common IO in hurdle, big difference.

Could also simply be that I find having the same stat powers boring and like more dynamics in my attack chain. Clicking a low damage but fast power can be fun in the early levels when you don't have enough attacks, but gets very annoying personally later in the game.