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Originally Posted by Serva_Obscura

I think it's wonderful that you consistently team with people who are so on-the-ball and attentive.

_Many_ of us are not so lucky.

Originally Posted by Serva_Obscura

You are incorrect, demonstrably so, as I posted above. Anti-matter can quite happily stack Obliteration and time stop, giving you no chance to move nor to stop him healing if you're unlucky. He can also stack Disintegration and Time stop giving you no chance to save the poor fool.

Additionally when you are being disintegrated there the _nothing_ you can do if you are out of green (which you generally are if you have lasted for any length of time) I have a macro set to alert the league, and yet it still goes wrong due to no fault of the poor schlob being disintegrated, that is annoying, sure to can DPS over the top of it, but it still _crap_ as far as design and "fun" goes.

Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex

Challenge? Not so much.

To become an incarnate you need the fortitude for extensive downtime while waiting for the event to begin, a strong enough net connection to make it through said event, and the stomach to repeat those action over and over.

What seperates an incarnate from a non-incarnate is not challenge or skill. It is almost entirely based on how much you want to deal with these 3 specific missions and all of the things associated with them. Some people do want "solo" missions but that does not sum up everyone. IMO the majority of complaints are from people--soloists, teamers, and non-commitals--who simply take issue with the limited scope of the system and the downsizing of elligible content. I think for many of them the issue is not specific to trials but would be apparant whether the game was whittled to soloing, bank missions, radios, the AE, street sweeping, AVs, or GMs. This is why so few of people currently posting took issue with the Alpha system but now are suddenly up in arms.

Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master

which is nice, but reward merits do nothing for incarnate progression, hence my explanation as to why its just a normal tf instead of the "incarnate content" that it was said to be pre i20

Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master

i know about the changes, but i find that extremely insufficient since apex and tin mage were touted about pre i20 as being incarnate difficulty content, and yet we get almost no special rewards from it except now a tiny little astral merit every 20 hours

why bother with it when i can run a BAF 4 times a day a get 20 astrals AND im not limited from getting more AND i get incarnate xp AND empyrean merits

apex/tin mage tfs were called incarnate content pre i20, but now i fail to see they are anything more than a normal tf with slightly increased difficulty and a few more "entry" requirements to be able to run it

all i ask is that apex and tin mage be given the same rewards as a trial, its not exactly solo content but you dont need 2-3 teams of poeple to run it

Originally Posted by Blacier

yeah and now you just totally belittle the efforts to train organize and figure it out initially. Yes NOW it is pretty easy. In the beginning Before everyone had their incarnate powers when Pinnacles three main SG's banned together to make it workable it wasnt a walk in the park. IT is now. Fairly easy but still inexperienced teams fail it quite frequently. Both the BAF and the LAM.

You can tout/slam/demean all you want but there is something to be said for Teaming vs soloing in the difficulty category.

Originally Posted by ScottyB

I'm still doing trials because I enjoy large-team content, not because there's anything left to earn. (It's also why I join at least one Hamidon raid a week.) I'd rather spend my time in a group even if I don't earn anything useful, than do stuff alone even if I can get a decent reward. In fact, before 20.5 it would have been more advantageous for me to spend my time soloing tips than continuing to run trials.

The more the merrier.

Originally Posted by Snow Globe

The first time I did the Positron TF was in Issue 4. There wasn't an autoexemp feature, anyone over level 15 that crashed or dc'd were removed from the TF, there weren't any shortcuts like base teleporters, and no veteran rewards. That first time took NINE HOURS to complete with a team of eight players.


I don't know the answer to your second question. As to your first is that there is only two ways to avoid having the the pulse take 50% of your max health:

• Be dead.
• Be a MM with your pets in bodyguard mode.

Those are the only 2 ways to avoid even part of the damage. For the additional damage (the extra damage you take because the league has damaged Anti-Matter), part of that is affected by your damage resistance.


Yesterday I was the target of the disintegration beam and I couldn't see the effect on myself. On the other hand, at least I know enough not to run away from the healers.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Considering bagpipes are also a Bulgarian national folklore instrument, you have at least one more supporter for bagpipes in me. As with any musical instrument, I feel it comes down more to the music and the performer than the actual instrument.

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Someone raised a question to me last night, and I wanted to pose it here as well, as I couldn't come up with a decently answer for myself: Now that we'll have access to Titanic Swords, what reason is there to keep our regular Broadsword characters? Obviously, Sword/Shield characters HAVE to remain sword since I doubt Titanic Weapons will be usable with a shield, but beyond that?

So answer me this question: In your opinion, what instances can you think of where a Broadsword character would be appropriate, but a Titanic Weapons character with a sword wouldn't be, outside of Shield Defence?

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

I'm actually not entirely against boss fights that restart if you lose (read: wipe), but bosses that can reset the fight with what I feel is a "cheap" mechanic? No, thank you.

Generally, I kind of don't like the approach where you can just keep flinging warm bodies at a boos and no matter how many times you die, all that matters is you keep dealing damage. But unless we can define a losing condition - which I don't think Keyes Island has - then resetting the fight is just a dick move.

Originally Posted by Judgement_Dave

Every trial/TF seems to get called 'too hard' or needing specific powers on launch day and for a few weeks after.

Every trial/TF later seems to have multiple ways to success once people get used to it.

There's nothing in Keyes that can't be countered in several ways -be it incarnate abilities, insps, healing powers - hell even aid other/self or personal witch temps.

It's good to see that the old style of a challenging AV equalling mega-HP and regen has finally gone and the newer trials/TF big bads have a wider variety of interesting powers/tactics.

Originally Posted by Nightphall

Well it was his Symbiote Costume, which increases his powers somewhat.

When people told me Spider-man beat Firelord, I assumed it was in red and blue.

Still, even with the symbiote costume, isn't Firelord still more powerful?

Originally Posted by NeverDark

Strategy implies the potential for multiple choices. It means that the player will have to use all the tools at his disposal to overcome the challenge. It offers the player a method of victory that involves him using any and all of his skills to the best of his ability.

Disintegration does not allow for strategy. Defense can't overcome Disintegration. Resistance doesn't stop it. Control has no ability to counter it.

"Bring heals or go home" isn't a strategy. It's stupidity.

Originally Posted by Zandock

With all the other auras and glowing entanglement and orbital laser stuff going on, you can't exactly pick out the target. The complete and utter reliance on massive heals for this trial turns me off of it, which is a shame because it is actually a fun trial.

Originally Posted by IanTheM1

At first I thought the Disintegration effect sounded cool, when it was described on the 20.5 announcement page.

But then I heard Anti-Matter could Disintegrate multiple targets. Izzat true?