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So last night i recrtuited for ITF, having in mind ill try to kill my team... once more...
... Geez those guys are too good! They refuse to die...
Never the less, i did tried... Jump on AV's / mision objectives, ignore the godzillions mobs shooting at us... nothing enouhg to kill my team, snap...
so about 60sec before the end of the ITF im like... LGTF anyone ?
http://www3.xeaonsoft.com/cov/24min%20ITF.jpg
http://www3.xeaonsoft.com/cov/24min%20LGTF.jpg
Same team (minus 1) , ITF and LGTF , back to back. -
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Star Strider Forces Registry:
Name - <insert any alt/toon name here> (Hek ill bring something)
Global Contact - @xeaon / @xeaon2
Level of Classification- N00b of the month for the last 38months
Origin - Cheese Cake
Super Group & Rank - Global Co - Rank : Leader (some folks are crazy enough to follow me)
[X] Yes! I am willing to lead a squadron if asked. -
Last year virtue hamidon nuke raid (blue side)
http://www.wegame.com/watch/9_Minute_Hami_Raid/
Jan 3rd 2010 failed attempt on virtue hamidon nuke raid, red side.(aka a xeaon plot to kill the whole zone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9dXj5pipuI
(our remath is this jan29th)
Virtue running about 5 Hamid raid a week (2 red side, 3 blue side)(most of the times 2 raid a night, back to back). Someone got the idea of doing a Nuke raid 1 day, no idea who that is, but i love the idea. It's totaly useless, but fun as hell. -
EoE drop from monsters in the Abyss or Monster island. If you kill enough monster in the Abyss, Hamid will spawn.
It is best not to spawn him for nothing, so reg raid teams, can gather some EoE before hamid spawn. Once Hamid is spawned, the Monster hide (unspawn).
Teams that are motivated enough could go in Monster Island and kill some monsters. The down side is, this a slow process and get old pretty fast.
If you want some EoE you can just attend reg raids, and save some for laters. That said, in some raids, you need more EoE or the Monster hunt is shorter or longer (it is random , whe Hamid decide to show up). On long moster hunt, you can gather enought and save for later. -
Red Side Hamidon Nuke Raid
Jan 3rd. We attempted virtue (and prolly all servers) first red side Hamidon Nuke Raid. Unfortunately we failed the attempt.
Never the less we learned from the experience and had lot of positive feed back.
With all the interest it is obvious we cant just leave it be. We want a rematch.
So there we are, will do another attempt which Im sure will be successful. Once more ROBOKiTTY is kind enough to lead us in this endeavor!
When ? : Friday Jan 29, 8 pm EST
This is outside normal hamid raid schedule. So this event should only drag ppl interested by it. I am confident we can fill the zone again.
On the first attempt we had the zone filled, but only about 20 ppl showed up with all 3 nukes. And that with only 6 days head up to get prep. We managed to get Hamid just under about 20% hp with that amount of missiles. This time will allow more time to get the word passed out and enough time to gather all 3 nukes.
Why?:
This is for the fun only. With evac less raid, there is no point in power nuking hamid. But hell its a fun thing to do. And well, the obvious bragging rights, :P
Things you need to do:
1- Clear out your agenda for that date, use a red marker and circle the date 3 times
2- Gather all 3 WB nukes, in advance. If you go get those nukes 3 hours before the event, you can be sure, the zone will be filled with pvper camping you. Nukes are best soloed early in the morning or late at night. If you have issue soloing those nukes or have no idea how to, pst me on @xeaon, or ask a friend. (1 nuke can be as fast as 11Min, therefore 3 of em, take about 33min)
3- Attend a few MS raid to get Vanguard merits, and trade for an HVAS.
4- Get Shivans in BB.
5- Show up in advance!
6- Turn your gfx to commodore 64 level.
Strategy:
For this attempt will plan on clearing the initial mitos then the first respawn. This is a safe measure, as Im sure we can do this with only initial Mitos. But first thing first, If this attempt is successful and it will, will have a good excuse to run it again (do it with only initial spawn).
There is pretty much 2 things we want to fix on our previous strategy. Stress even more on the EoE and Breakfree. We also want to place the EoE/BF call out earlier in the steps. Everyone needs to focus on his icons status as well as everything that will be going on. As soon the EoE/BF start to blink, you need to eat another. Dont wait to get KBed or Mezed, have some up all the time. Actually bring some T3 breakfree (if you can) and eat a lot specially on the last 25% (hamid hp bar).
The second thing is simply to have more Nukes. We estimate that we can achieve this easily with about 30nukes X3.
For the first phase, we do like usual. Brute teams have to thumb tack there yellows. Brute and spike team kill yellows, while assault distract blues, ect Then green then blues. Attack hamid until 75% hp.
Then either we evac or just rush the first bloom (evac less method).
And we redo again, until all mitos are cleared. At this point, We take a pause. Noone attack Hamid. Regroup at the opposite side of the regen stalker who will taunt hamid.
At this point we have to do things in specific orders.
- Everyone dismiss pets.
- Cast all bio nukes (they are 5min duration, and cover only 20 toons at per cast)
- Cast all pets, HVAS, Shivans( they will auto attack hamid, creating agro)
- Cast all EoE buff, Am, Mind link, WoP, regen tree, etc.
- Things go fast at that point, Brute team cast there chem. Nukes (cause they will be too far later on), and move back to position. Last attempt, I believe only 1 brute team were assigned back to taunt. While having rest of brutes with the main group. I will leave KiTTY deceide and assign the brutes teams, where they needed.
- At 50% everyone cast there Chem Nukes (first) then there Nuke Nuke (dam). Spam heal /buff and DPS on Hamid.
Keep in mind this is a one shot deal. And the momentum is very important. Everything will be played inside 3minutes, or less.
Some interesting links :
- jan 3 attempt : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9dXj5pipuI
- Last yeat on blue side vid : http://www.wegame.com/watch/9_Minute_Hami_Raid/
- Last year link : http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=126948&highlight=hami
Please confirm your attendance in advance by replying this thread.
This is a Unique event, dont miss it.
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I will say, that was the Awesome Stuff, Sadly we failed.
I think most that joined had a blast doh, and Im looking forward to try again.
I have to thanks everyone that joined, especially those who took the time to gather the 3 nukes.
If I recall, blue side, failed the first attempt as well.
Then we tried another attempt with initial then first respawn bloom cleared and won. Then we did the full 100%, and succeeded again. Tactics been adapted and all.
As for this last Sunday, we have learned greatly from this experience and will adapt tactics.
Im also confident we can enroll enough interest for this.
After reviewing the video, I have to agree we prolly need more Nukes.
We also prolly want to stress a bit more on eating BFs as well on placing that and EoE early on the steps.
We had about 20 nukes X 3, on this attempt, while Ive been told blue side had about 30.
We managed to push him to below 20%, those 10 other nukes would had killed it.
Anyways, Im down for a rematch, :P
That was just too awesome too leave it like that.
Next attempt, we should clear the initial bloom, then the first respawn, then do it., so we only have 2 bloom shooting at use, 1 at 50% 1 at 25%.
I will discuss this with KiTTY and see when and how we schedule this.
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3B for +3def in PVE when your team is the weak sauce, wont help you that much... also you can eat luck or have team buff that get you over 45% already... well you know that already.
3B for +3def in PVP, Maaayyyybee, it will help, but heck pvp, you need regen and resist over def, im no Guru doh, but Defense come last on my pvp builds goals, with i13 new pvp rules in mind.
ON the side note... you can't have mines, cause first im not selling, and 2nd they red side... I got lucky and bought 2, when the price was VERY low by today standard... say 350M and 650M ... Even back there i had doubt, but i had the cash, and no use for it, :P -
And we all had a blast, that is the most important...
That type of stress could make a team implode.. specialy after 4 resets.. but everyone kept there cool, and focused on the fun part. -
4 reset, 44min, completed Succesfully "Master Of", guess we are the slow one, :P
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and last night 48min run...
http://www3.xeaonsoft.com/cov/Master...%2048min-2.jpg
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Lets talk Strategy
Depending on how many nukes/ ppl show up we might do 1 evac or not at all.
Assuming we can handle full evac less, will do the raid like usual. For the first phase, kill yellow, then green , then blue. Once All mitos are dead, we need a pause. Teams will have to stop and avoid attacking Hamid.
Brute team will move back to previously thumb tacked yellow mitos position. And get ready for the next bloom. There job will be to distract them. Brute team will have to deal with up to 3 yellow stacked on the same location. Where there is normally 1 yellow, a second will spawn at 50%, then a 3rd at 25%.
As for the main group, we need to buff up before we engage Hamid. We need everyone with enough EoE for the entire encounter. Last year blue side edition, it took about 2.5min to kill hamid from 100% to 0% HP(taking that number off the video previously posted). Therefore we need a minimum of 3 EoE per Toon, but we could up that number to 5, to be on the safe side. We also need breakfrees, I know I know you want to rely on your normal mez prot. But it wont hurt you to eat some BFs to add more KB and mez protection. If you have no mez protection, then make sure you have enough BFs.
This is a 1 shot deal, so dont be shy and do eat your inspiration. Dont wait to get mez or kbed to eat BFs, eat 1 then when it start blinking eat another same concept for the EoE. Stream your insp. Dont bring any other insp. Luck and sturdy are useless against him. Maybe have blues and greens, but I cant stress enough about EoE and BFs.
About EoE, just assume this if you dont have 1 up, you are as good as dead. If you want to try w/out EoE, please try that on any normal raid. We need you alive! Will try to run 1 or more Monster island session, to gather EoE, prior to the event.
Where was I ?, oh yeah, Main group so the idea is to Bio nuke everyone before we cast any pets. Maybe MM could spawn there t9 pet, but dismiss all others for that part. Bio nuke can only buff 20 toons, pet included, at a time. Yes will have a lot of bio nukes, but we want em to stack, not to spread on pets , that will die after 30 second into it.
Then we cast all pets, shivans, HVAS, everything you got. Next phase is to cast AM, Fort, WoP, etc.
Pets will be attacking already at this point, so we just shoot at Hamid, and cast our Nuke Nukes, chem. Nukes etc..
Monitor your inspiration status icon and eat EoE/BF when the previous start blinking.
This is just the basic idea, things may change after discussions. Feel free to add your comment. Hopefully will come up with decent macros to coordinate you all, :P
Speaking of which, you might consider creating a macro for /sync and /unloadgfx .
Turn gfx to minimum. Ill go run naked on next Hero Con, if there is ZERO lag on this run I mean by that, lag will be ubertastic.
Other note, we prolly want 1 kin and/or pain corr on each team. And well, PAY ATTENTION TO REQUEST CHANNEL!
Ok, ill just post this; you guys post your comment. I prolly missed a few things, fell free to point it out.
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Practive run this Friday...
http://www3.xeaonsoft.com/cov/Master...%2048min-2.jpg
Will try to make it tomorow, but cant tell.
Dont mind leading if im there! -
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This Sunday, Jan 3rd 2010, Mark the Global Co 3rd Anniversary.
For this day we want to do something special! And since us old crooners can’t find anything original to do… will just copy what was done blue side, about 1 year ago.
POWER DUPER DUKENUKEM Hamid! (red side)
Ive asked ROBOKiTTY for some help, because this is no small Endeavour.
For those who don’t know RK, she lead most red side hamid ^-^
Here some interesting links about what was done blue side….
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=126948&highlight=hami
http://www.wegame.com/watch/9_Minute_Hami_Raid/
As for our event, its this Sunday, the 3rd.
It will be in The Abyss2, right after the first Hamid Raid.
The first Raid is around 3pm PST/6pm EST
2nd raid would be 30 to 60min later.
We welcome everyone to join us. The only thing we ask of you is to bring all 3 WB nukes and HVAS if you can.
Strategy is still being discussed, and will be explain right before we start (posted here in advance if we can).
You all welcome to give your inputs.
Also, please pre-sigh here. Team formation will be made on site doh.
Tell us your AT, prim/sec, and please bring your uber IO’out toon.
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xmas is in 3 months for me, Jan 2 seems its in 8 years...
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Ive assumed it was fixed in the way you cant teleport em with that patch, but i never used that technique myself.
A guy i know (to prevent saying name), Do that 4th mission, a bit different then I. I was wondering why, what to gain from his method. And actualy, if everything goes right, it is faster.
He make the team stick together and rush pylons, skiping and avoiding the rikti all together. So why? When you do Pylons, you turn in circle, around Hamid, if you fast enought, the rikti will start following you, and since they go for a straight line to get to you, they cross path with Mitos.
So this technique do 2 things in 1 move, Agroo rikti to mitos, while killing pylons.
On another note, with that guy, once time we killed all pylons, and rushed Hamid, while all mitos where up... SUICIDE RUN,... well when you play with decent players.. miracle append. We had no issue killing Hamid at all, but mission was not over.. seems you do have to kill all the mitos to complete the mission. Snap! -
Fun Stuff.
I tried a Speed Master ITF' the other day, went ok on first mission, then on 2nd, kinda slow us down, so i told my team ill head off and go solo some cyst..... 2 guys decided to follow me, and SPLAT.
Speed ITF aint hard to achieve, not dying on those aint hard to achieve. Admit you prolly need an IO'out toon and not your common lvl36 blaster/stalker, whatever AT, only SO'ed out, all in the red.
You also need to use insp. how often i try to toss insp to a team member that really look he could use it, and find out is insp tray is full O.o!
Inspiration, What is that, pfff, its useless.... NOT!!!, insp is what keep you alive! Eat or delete the insp you dont need, or even combine 3, to get what you need. Combine 3 red or 3 yellow to get luck , sturdy or breakfree. When you get close to last mission, if you care to stand agains Romu when he rez, have a bunch of breakfree, so you wont have to hide out of LoS.
So anyways on that run, only me and another guy, stood up the whole run with no death. Ive done plenty of normal speed ITF, under 30min, with barely noone dying. On those, you have toons that can solo mission objectives while having more then agroo cap, shooting at em... Have 8 toons that can do that, and you get speed.
What i like about this challenge, is the pug part... I'm one of those who believe in pugs... some are bad, some become a very nice experience, a chance to meet new players. -
Quote:You will see those guys that take it too seriously, but ive no idea why, i see a lot more of the other types, lately...Okay, good to know it's not entirely hopeless then.
I prefer good-natured PvP. Fight hard, use every tactic available to you, but if the fight ends with you as the loser, don't take it personally, or seriously.
It's only a video game, there is no need to act as though the person on the other side physically assaulted you. Trash talk is fine, but when it crosses the line into being truly mean-spirited the person doing it needs to step back and realize that it's only a game.
That, in a nutshell, is what I don't like about Freedom. Granted, not everyone is like that, I understand that very well, but enough of them are that it kills my fun pretty quickly.
From what I've heard in my 4+ years in CoH, Virtue has a pretty friendly playerbase, and that's the kind of environment I'd like to PvP in.
That make me pvp more actualy, but maybe they were there and i had no idea before since i was not pvp'ing much b4? omg omg omg, the chicken or the egg, what came first ? *** start screaming and running in zig zag, til he hit a wall, fell to the ground and start bleeding ***
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Anyone was in RV last Sunday night?
Cause i was... along with about 40 other ppl in zone, maybe more. I know at some point we had 2 full team of 8 running red side, and pretty much the same numbers blue side.
Ive wasted some hours in there, and except for 1 guy who was not happy the pvp'er blasted his NPC kill badge down the toilet, ppl had a nice attitude.
Admit, its not always like that. Last night was fun for me, for about 20min, then ppl started some trash talking, those guys eventualy left zone, then kinda was solo agains 2 or 3 at a time... and no im not that uber to deal with that, lol, more like im barely ok in pvp.
The point is, there is bad and good moment in Virtue RV.
BB is shivan run, + some lost guy, dont see alot of pvp in there when i go anymore.
Havent went in SC in ages
WB for nuke, plus maybe some skirmish once in a while... That is only my perception... i dont really go there for pvp.
As for Arena... Last sunday some ppl in RV ran 2 nice Arena matchs! My issue is only to find those. I normaly just run 1 myself, when i feel like it. Ive more fun on larger match, with lot of ppl then 1v1 or 2v2.
Btw, Ark, you have to poke me with a stick next event you run, cause ill forget once more -
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So this guide still ok, i guess...
I normaly dont stress at all on the team selection now. Well most of the time, always good to have 1 healer and make sure someone can actualy tp all to the end on last mission.
With a good team, you can do this SF under 30min easy.
As for mission2, 1 note, def soft cap... kinda nice , when Famine only have 5% chance to hit with his fear/-rech/end redux...etc.. (well count his ++acc bonus... so its more then 5%).
I also have to remind some ppl that you don't need Stealth at all on this. since Drones see you anyways, what you need is high def, Mez prot and a travel power... if you are the uber lame build (lvl45 something crappy ), then... Luck insp+breakfree+Jetpack and you have ?
Did i mentionned that def soft cap is somethign close to a mez prot ? when they miss there attacks they dont mez you (stiff BF is always your ally, if that append)
Oh and as mentionned by others, Assemble the team or the temp power Summon teammate is pretty helpful on first mission, I rarely make Penny die anymore ( 5 more month to my own AtT ) -
That could work, but i mean Silly ppl as in players...
I do like the idea of 7 TA -
Any decent mission arc. Since you might want some accolade one day and that is more fun to kill AV's then just grind mobs, i have to agree that Preatorian arc is kinda fun. Unless you just beat it lately.
But... but .. as for fun, what you need is a team of 8 of Silly ppl. Keyword being Silly.