Another_Fan

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WAHHH SOMEONE DIDNT LIKE MY ARC. WHATS WORSE HE HAD A WHOLE LOT OF REASONS

And I laugh.

I said long ago that the anti farmers rabies could only be cured with an injection of writing talent. Now that they have attacked popular content they turn their attacks to the critics.

What next an attack on anyone with taste ? A rating sytem with only 5 stars ?


Bad is bad, and many of the arcs that are even close to hall of fame are only there because many people just won't give a poor rating as it is.

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Naturally, but I'm glad our CS isn't as bad...

Heh, just realized a WoW Comparison...

Getting banned in WoW for buying a duped item and not knowing it was duped is about equal to having your level pact character locked when you didn't know what your partner was doing.

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Thats why I don't play WoW.

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we're getting off light imo, bad is bad of course, but our punishment is light in contrast to other MMOs...

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COX doesn't have the playerbase to be as high handed as others.

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And then we have the farmers who are busy blaming everyone but themselves for an exploit being fixed.


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Thats bs but a good line you have been peddling. The farmers have had no problem with the comm officer exploit being fixed. Thee problem has been the developers insane reactions. Level pacters have been banned, the devs refuse to issue any guidelines about what is acceptable in the game, and positron has gone into his "I am right because I am the king". What's annoying is he could defecate in the mouths of many posters and they would just exclaim how delicious it was

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Its the hall of fame

Not

The Hall of whiners

Or

The hall of mediocrity

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Extending that argument to claim that the story-oriented folks have an axe to grind against badgers is different, because farming for badges is a different case.

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There have been loud story oriented folks, against badge farms. Just a quick look seems to indicate that they were also 2nd or third tier badgers upset that MA provided one more way for them to be outdistanced. There have also been Rpers insisting all farming and PLing should go.

Finally there are the very, very loud Auteurs who feel the only reason their arcs aren't being played or rated well are conspiracies and farmers out to keep them down. Even now there is a large thread on the MA boards that's little more than whining about low ratings. These people complain they can't get into the hall of fame, well its the hall of fame, not the hall of mediocrity

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RPers are some of the loudest opponents to farming.

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throw hyperbole out the window already

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Take a look at the boards. That isn't hyperbole if anything its understatement

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I'm curious to what would make one think that removing badges = catering to RPers...some of those badges have [censored] awesome titles.

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Doesn't do RPers any good if they can't get them

That easy badges got removed is just an illustration that getting the devs involved is a double edged sword

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Luck of the Gambler Increased recharge is #1 in direct purchase. Random Gold Recipe Rolls are worth as much or more on average. You are extremely likely to achieve that average or close to that average in 10 rolls... which is how much buying the Luck of the Gambler itself costs.

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Not so much on the extremely likely in 10 rolls.

Fullmens had a thread documenting his purchases of peoples rolls in the 30-33 level range. You might want to take a look and see what the actual results were

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thay cannot be sued by US copyright laws for someone having a character that looks SIMILAR to a copyrighted name/face/character/fart smell this si teh same reason people cannot sue Wierd Al for the songs he makes,

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You are clueless and should just stop now. NCSoft was ALREADY SUED over this, so I guess the US legal system disagrees with your expert opinion. And, since I guess you weren't aware, Weird Al contacts the artists he parodies and GETS THEIR PERMISSION IN ADVANCE.

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Actually you can be sued pretty much for anything here. There was a memorable case of a psychic sueing a MRI facility claiming the MRI deprived her of her psychic powers.

She lost.

OP is correct on the issue of copyright but in this case the characters and names are usually trademarked.

As to who won in COH vs Marvel who knows ? It looks like COH did.

Thank you for your very impressive effort.

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The Devs never intended to have Rikti Comm Officers act the way they did, it was a complete oversight on their part, when the "Special" versions were included in the MA. That was their fault, as they should have realized the differences in the Spawn of that Critter.


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Not true. Before alot of you started playing, Rikti Comm Officers gave normal xp but the Rikti Portals and minions also gave xp. The portals gave ridiculous amounts. People were farming the Comm Officers for the Portals. When they nerfed it, they increased the XP of Comm Officers.

If I recall, the other NPC that got nerfed around the same time were the BP Death Shamans.

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I dont recall the summoned rikti giving xp but i know the portals gave large xp up untill very recently when they took all XP from portals but gave comms rikti LT xp but minion HPs. Reason being in the RWZ people were running around tagging the portals and running off, after a while they despawned and the free xp would flow.

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This goes way back a few years...

The rikti summoned through the portal would give xp.

One person would sit in a map with phase shift on (before it became timed....)

THe entire room would fill with summoned rikti. You can fit a whole bunch of rikti in a room if you sit for 24 hours. This is also when critters could stack an infinite number onto one spot.

This is also before the aggro cap of 17.

This is before the max target limit of 17.

Now that the room is filled with rikti... one Invuln tank would enter and aggro the entire room of thousands of rikti. One blaster would pop reds... Aim... and Build-Up... and defeat everything in the room.

The level 1's sk'd to 40 would instantly level to 30. (this is also before the 5 level limit on side kick's.)

It took a tad bit of planning but it was not hard to do at all.

This explains the phase shift nerf, aggro cap, max number of critters damaged cap, xp nerf on summoned critters, and sk level range nerf all in one fell swoop.

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Overkill and then some. But getting it right isn't on the priority list.

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I tend to stay out of corporate forums and the quality of responses in this thread go further to reinforce my reasoning for staying out of them.

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On the contrary, I have a very open mind... and that is the problem... instead of a rational discussion all that I have seen for the most part is flames and trashing of a really good person.

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Evolution in action.

The forum population adapts to the environment. What you wind up with are

1. People whose positions are nearly identical to the operators even when those positions do a 180. The DoublePlusGood crowd.

2. People with very thick skins.

3. The transients, those that will evaporate with a little bit of time.

This forum has a double dose of pressure on it. As the people that disagree wit developer actions tend to dissappear because they stop playing the game.

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I have 5 level 50 toons that I have grinded for evey level I got. Grinding for badges is my enjoyment in this game and it is why I still pay for 2 accounts. Let me break it down If I lose one badge that I have grinded so hard for I will close both of my COH accounts. Look I don't want this to come off as a threat I am just stating a fact after 2 years paying for the game grinding for every badge I have, you will take my fun away and why should I pay for what is no longer fun

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NEWSFALSH: you are playing the game wrong, while I am sure the devs are sorry to see two subs laps, they would rather you play their game their way and have their fun.



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LOL

Definitely not the burger king of MMOGs

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6 Pages of people whining over something that is not only doable but the masters of is doable.

Why not just populate the SF with level 1 snakes and make Statesman a LT. That way everyone could do it.

No wonder we lost 89 badges.

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Learn to play.

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QFT

The its too hard everyone should be able to do it attitude is destroying the game

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24 pages of ego stroking. Woo.

We get it, you all know more than newbies, and all newbies are just babies who don't know any better.

Now who wants ice cream?

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QFT LOL

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NCSoft employees don't need to be alerted to anything. If an AE or non-AE mission proves bloatrous in its returns, it will get pulled. If a player abuses (there's that word again) AE or certain missions, it will become common knowledge and that player will get a temp ban.


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I am sure that you are an astute and intelligent individual. Would you please be so kind as to point out if YOU personally feel that any of my plans are considered "abuse"? I'm sure that a rational and reasonable person such as yourself would have no problem with someone who is truly, honestly, and openly attempting not to cause any "abuse."

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Hrmph. You know it's abuse. You're going out of your way to be abusive of the system and to make a point of it. You know that too.

Now go on, say something like 'Could you explain exactly how it's abuse'.

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Pushing the system to its limits is not abuse. Exposing that the devs are floundering around is not abuse of the game just the devs.

What this does is expose that the devs don't know what is legitimate play themselves and that is the only reason they won't say. It has nothing to do with rules lawyering (anyone who bought that argument is both stupid and a few bricks short of a load).

It has everything to do with their having a game that is in a state they don't want it to be in.

If they implement their vision they will lose 90% of their player base.

If they state how they want the game to be played and the rate they want people to go, they will lose a significant chunk of their players.

Currently they allow some people to play completely outside of their vision. Mostly because they act as shills and because taking action would alienate many more players.

What this will do is expose the hypocrisy and lay bare the double standard


Bravo

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Bloom early then they wither quickly

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Speak for yourself, AF. The real game pretty much started for my Blaster at lvl 50. That's when I finished slotting up my main build and grabbing all the helpful accolade powers. Then I graduated from kicking heiny to seriously kicking heiny.

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I didn't say they weren't perenials. IOs really do wonders for blasters after brutes I think they get the most benefit from them

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The purple drop rate is probably the single biggest issue, and its one I wish they would nerf by upping it. No way something that enjoyable will happen though.

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I for one move to have the purple drop rate become a 0% chance... but I am in the minority, I guess. Purples and IOs have fueled much of the greed in this game that has gone about breaking other aspects of this game. Can you say Merits? They wouldn't exist if people hadn't exploited TFs the way that they did (and still do) just to get a reward.

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Well the people that object to your opinion are being driven out of the game so you may get your wish.

Me, I really wouldn't want claim that I played in the special olympics of MMOGs

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And this thread has officially gone from someone asking an innocent question, to "THE DEVS SUXXORS!!!!! ME NO PLAY DIS GAME NO MOAR!!!!!"

This is usually the best time to lock a thread like this. It has no where else to go but down.

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Yes no sense ever hearing anything that might be disturbing.

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It's not disturbing, just tedious. No one has an issue with a well-considered post that makes a point. Conversely, no one has a use for whining.

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Well that's reasonable. I just reread the thread (insomnia is a horrible thing) and I saw perhaps three posters I could call whiny. One a person saying they were leaving, another flying off the handle about it, and another who just seems to have hit the ceiling.

Me I find this thread interesting, in that I am on the fence about continuing the game. I am really unhappy with recent events. Hundreds to thousands of posts are gone, users are calling for mods to silence threads. The developer handling of the MA was less than professional on many levels. The reaction of the community even more so.

I constantly find myself asking of some people just what would it take for some people to say wow the devs screwed up and aren't making the situation better ?

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I beleive that BaBs once said that the sub figures fluctuate so much on a daily basis that its pretty hard to measure any sort of imapct from any decisions.

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Doesn't that seem a little self serving ? While it isn't contradictory it is at odds with the fact they always refer back to datamining for so much of their decisions. I mean if you can't discern a trend in one variable just what is it you are doing ?

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I must confess I am a little surprised by your responses, because you so frequently do each one.

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I wish I could say I was surprised by yours but I have an aversion to lying.

Seeing as you make the claim present examples

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How do you feel about people who deliberately misstate what another person says, so they can respond to their version rather than what was actually said?


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Those are generally called politicians. Being a small government libertarian I think they should be tarred feathered and hung.

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Or people who, when confronted with a valid counter to their argument, completely ignore it?

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Usually that is called victory. Enjoy it.

All this is words. They can't break your bones, they can't ruin your health, they can't do very much to anyone but make them think.