One last burning question I desperately need an answer too :-D


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Please note the following pictures:

M One in steel

M One in galaxy

M One in Perez

M Onein PI

The question that has plaqued mankind, okay so maybe just me , is who is M 1 and just exactly what did he do to get 4 THAT'S F O U R statues scattered throughout Paragon City? Was he really that awesome or did he just have a really, really, really good PR man?

About all we know for sure is he was a Tanker (from one of the exploration badges in the echo of Galaxy). No idea exactly when he was on patrol in Paragon City. No clue if he retired like Galaxy Girl or was killed in action. His outfit looks a bit like a World War 1 or even 2 aviators .. did he serve during one of those wars and THEN become a hero or was he already a hero and not unlike Captain America used his powers to help win the war.

Okay the boring technical answer ((OOC)) that would/will drive the role players and Canon Lore fanatics crazy is pretty simple. Without even consulting a dev ... we wanted to put up a bunch of statues around the city. We only had a few protypes to begin with including M One. We placed them where we wanted a statue to be and then things got busy, launch date arrived and we realized (after someone pointed it out) that the guy at attention and saluting behind Positron in Steel Canyon seems to be all over the place. Opps.. oh well too late now and we have more important things to fix. Yeah I know That's sort of boring even to me LOL

So let's make stuff up and create a history for the man of many statues (keep in mind these are just the ones you can see all the time.. M-1 is also the exact same statue you find in the devastated square on the mission map that lets you defeat the other world Psychi Clockwork King and numerous other missions you get through the portals in PI. )

So here's my idea:

M One, also known as Shawn Davies, was a Super Hero that joined the fight alongside Statesman during the war. He actually took his hero name from the old M-1 rifle used by foot soldiers. Strong as an OX and a loyal friend of Cole he gave his life to save their platoon by throwing his body on top of a UXO (UnExploded Ordanance). That selfless act allowed Statesman to live and return to guide the heroes of Paragon City in defending life, liberty and the American way. His friend Statesman personally appealed to the city parks commision and had several statues of their departed ex hero constructed so his valor and heroic act would never be forgotten. Eventually statues were placed in Steel City (where he grew up), Galaxy City (where he and his wife lived before he left for the war), Peregrine Island (near the site of the recruitment office he visited to volunteer for military duty, and in Perez Park (which he had spoke of often during the war as his favorite place to go and play as a youth).


See now doesn't that sound better than .. we just forgot to replace him with another staue befoe we launched and just didnt feel like wasting time afterwards? lol

NEXT..........


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Very good question. I'd not even equated them all as the same and I generally enjoyed getting the history plaques more than most badges

the only thing I can add to your post is that I think in this instance, an M1 refers to a tank as in the M1 Abrams etc rather than a rifle.



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Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy View Post
Okay the boring technical answer ((OOC)) that would/will drive the role players and Canon Lore fanatics crazy is pretty simple. Without even consulting a dev ... we wanted to put up a bunch of statues around the city. We only had a few protypes to begin with including M One. We placed them where we wanted a statue to be and then things got busy, launch date arrived and we realized (after someone pointed it out) that the guy at attention and saluting behind Positron in Steel Canyon seems to be all over the place. Opps.. oh well too late now and we have more important things to fix. Yeah I know That's sort of boring even to me LOL
In my head, I always thought it was this with the minor modification: "other than the one guy holding a globe, there was no actual back story behind any statue."

Honestly, every time they attempted to give back story to the statues I felt eeky. Never felt right, always felt retconed and forced. /shrug


 

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Galaxy Girl had her specific statue. As well as the Talos one too. I wonder if there were specific ones for each Zone?


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Originally Posted by Starsman View Post
In my head, I always thought it was this with the minor modification: "other than the one guy holding a globe, there was no actual back story behind any statue."

Honestly, every time they attempted to give back story to the statues I felt eeky. Never felt right, always felt retconed and forced. /shrug

well No not all the statues have a back story they are realiztically just a decoration but there are some....

The Statue of Galaxy Girl in the now echo of Galaxy. there was a plaque right in front of her that explained how she became a heroine.

One of the statues in the RWZ is Mustang or at least the exploration badge (ACE) in his extended hand talks about the hero serving in WW Two so I'd assume the statue is HIM.

Of course we all know about Atlas standing there in AP holding the earth on his back.

The Dauntless Statue in Skyway again has an exploration badge nearby that explains he was Galaxy Girl's sidekick and died defending her.

There is yet another statue in Skyway dedicated BY EXP badge to the hero Red Tiger (aka Jake Montoya). The badge is called better days and goes on to explain that eventually the hero lost a leg battling the Clockwork King. He got an artificial one but had to retire from crime fighting after that.

Don't forget the statue of Minotaur in the water near Talos Island. The badge there tells us that Minotaur battled the Chimera and actually broke a hole in the ocean floor. He was never seen again but the island formed from that incident and was named in his honor.

Then there is the statue of the heronie Night Hammer in Steel Canyon. The exploration badge located at the base (controversial explains that 2 seperate controversies surrond it.. The first was how much the heroine HATED how it tunred out and the second involved the mysertious disappearance of the architect that designed it shortly after it was unveiled. LOL

So that's 7 examples right there that I was awre of just from doing numerous Badge tours with the Taxibots. Okay we NEVER did a Badge tour in the RWZ but I was an avid Exploration badger for a while and knew about that one.

Oh and good point Scarlet I didn't even think about the M-1 Tank which would make more sense considering the AT of of mysterious hero.


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Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker View Post
Very good question. I'd not even equated them all as the same and I generally enjoyed getting the history plaques more than most badges

the only thing I can add to your post is that I think in this instance, an M1 refers to a tank as in the M1 Abrams etc rather than a rifle.
Considering that it's on an M1 Statue that you find the Tank badge, I would imagine this to be true. Well, it used to be, anyway.


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There are 2 statues in Perez (Avatar and one I can't recall) and also Peregrine in PI.


 

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Posi said in his lore post that there's a backstory to him, but it's in a design doc he no longer has access to.


 

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Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy View Post
So that's 7 examples right there that I was awre of just from doing numerous Badge tours with the Taxibots. Okay we NEVER did a Badge tour in the RWZ but I was an avid Exploration badger for a while and knew about that one.
I think Posi admitted in the lore tread that most the badge lore pre-city of villains was just made on the spot without actual planning. Heck, there are some of these that give lore reasons to bugs, like the mind control villain in Kings Row that was set there due to a bug that made pedestrians go crazy in the area.

But yea, still is a valid question if there is at least some post-fact lore added to the guy.


 

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I think Positron mentioned that he himself didn't know anything about this guy, but did say there was probably a file on him somewhere in the CoH dev mainframe. We will never know...


 

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M One thru portal

Okay just to update I was running some Marie Missions in PI and was able to grab a shot of our mystery man again.

If Posi mentioned that a lot of the badges and other items were on the spot it makes perfect sense. Sadly there is probably no one left to confirm anything IF THEY EVER KNEW FOR SURE. Knowing that I think it is quite possible that M-1 was simple used as a place holder for another potential statue that just never got made before the game went live. Considering how many bugs they find and need to deal with even after an update the fact that the multiple copies of the statue went unchanged isnt suprising at all. Even if someone realized it way back then I bet they had far too many other issues to resolve to worry about a couple copies on one statue being left in game.

Oh and by the way .. This was more of a fun teaser than any sort of urgent need to know before the lights go out. hmmm I have enough pictures maybe I will create an AE story showing the origins of M-1 and why the city decided to honor him!


�We�re always the good guys. In D&D, we�re lawful good. In City of Heroes we�re the heroes. In Grand Theft Auto we pay the prostitutes promptly and never hit them with a bat.� � Leonard
�Those women are prostitutes? You said they were raising money for stem cell research!� � Sheldon