Just ran an ITF with a Windfall running for the first time
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Posted on: 2012-08-02 09:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
It increase the odds that things will drop, but it's still all up to the dice. If you had a buttload of windfalls and track your drops with them and compared them with normal drop rate, you'd see a difference.
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i believe its a 10% increase in the drop rate, however since most items are around 1-2% chance to drop (estimated) your not gonna see a significant increase
IIRC, windfalls are best used when solo at x8 since then you get all the drop checks and thus they all get boosted by the windfall increase.
When grouped only your checks get boosted, so on an actual team of 8 only 1/8th (yours) are getting the windfall chance.
That is all IIRC. Never used one myself.
Not so. There is no shared loot. Every "kill" grants an.
independent drop check for each member of the team
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So why do my inspire drops plummet when teamed?|
Originally Posted by Kederren
Not so. There is no shared loot. Every "kill" grants an.
independent drop check for each member of the team |
I don't know what all drops are affected by teaming, but inspire drops are demonstrably, clearly, exceptionally reduced on a team.
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That is true of Incarnate Shards and probably Threads. IIRC, that aspect of the Shard system was explicitly touted as new and different.|
Originally Posted by Kederren
Not so. There is no shared loot. Every "kill" grants an.
independent drop check for each member of the team |
Salvage, recipes, inspirations -- all of those drop more frequently for soloists. The design intent is (I think) that teams kill faster, and that therefore teams should give you more-or-less the same amount of drops over time, but in practice that's not usually how it works out. Not even close. You can quite literally build a solo character around Inspiration use -- but a team character not so much.
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
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Now that you mention it I seem to remember when inventions were introduced people asking for the devs to use something like the team bonus XP formula to increase recipe drops when teamed.
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Originally Posted by Obitus
Salvage, recipes, inspirations -- all of those drop more frequently for soloists. The design intent is (I think) that teams kill faster, and that therefore teams should give you more-or-less the same amount of drops over time, but in practice that's not usually how it works out. Not even close. You can quite literally build a solo character around Inspiration use -- but a team character not so much.
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Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
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This has been my experience. I get more and better drops solo x8 than in a team fighting romans or nemesis. Get a mission from the general at cim and do +0 or +1 x8 solo.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
IIRC, windfalls are best used when solo at x8 since then you get all the drop checks and thus they all get boosted by the windfall increase.
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All of this is correct.|
Originally Posted by Obitus
That is true of Incarnate Shards and probably Threads. IIRC, that aspect of the Shard system was explicitly touted as new and different.
Salvage, recipes, inspirations -- all of those drop more frequently for soloists. The design intent is (I think) that teams kill faster, and that therefore teams should give you more-or-less the same amount of drops over time, but in practice that's not usually how it works out. Not even close. |
OP topic: I've never actually bothered with Windfalls after a little preliminary testing. What tends to happen is that I fill up on common salvage and recipes/temp powers, and waste time deleting junk rather than killing moar mobs. The commons have the highest base drop rate, so presumably are what's going to be increased the most by a power that boosts drop rates across the board. I don't need more Regenerating Flesh and St. Louis Slammers. Kinda at my quota, there.
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Negative. Most kills take ONE drop check, then decide who gets it.|
Originally Posted by Kederren
Not so. There is no shared loot. Every "kill" grants an.
independent drop check for each member of the team |
A few drops work differently - notably shards, threads and Vanguard merits on mothership raids. This is why you can get multiple shards/threads off one kill - it checks for EVERYONE then decides who gets it and more than one can go to the same person.
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Well, I'm still very disapointed by my 2 shards.
I used to get between 6 and 9.
A Windfall improves your drop chances, but not enormously, and valuable drops are pretty uncommon in the first place. 25% more than squat is still squat.
2 shards on an ITF is on the low end, but far from unheard of, especially if you weren't clearing the maps.
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Also respite drops from the zombie spawns in the final battle of the Halloween TuT event - they drop for everyone no matter what, like Vanguard Merits on a mothership raid (If you do a massive amount of damage or get INSANELY lucky you can get two or three from a Boss/Elite Boss).|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Negative. Most kills take ONE drop check, then decide who gets it.
A few drops work differently - notably shards, threads and Vanguard merits on mothership raids. This is why you can get multiple shards/threads off one kill - it checks for EVERYONE then decides who gets it and more than one can go to the same person. |
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Can someone explain what a windfall do ?
I had 2 incarnate shards (thats my low record for an ITF
4 Endurence reduction recipes
3 Recharge recipes
1 Immob and 1 Interrupt recipes
Even zero rare salvage drop...
And a few inspirations, granted, most of them were big ones.