Identifying Free Players


Aggelakis

 

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Must we identify free players? Why can't they just be "players," like everyone else? Do we really need to put a marker on them and make it obvious that they are not VIP? Why not just... ask?


 

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I dislike the idea on principle. The few free players who do decide to grief, well, isn't that what the star/note system is for?


 

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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge View Post
I dislike the idea on principle. The few free players who do decide to grief, well, isn't that what the star/note system is for?
The Star/Note system is highly individual to each player - I use the star system entirely different than anyone else would - every time I team with someone I give them a star a leave a note of when we teamed and which toon I was on. Every time we team again they get another star.


 

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
The Star/Note system is highly individual to each player - I use the star system entirely different than anyone else would - every time I team with someone I give them a star a leave a note of when we teamed and which toon I was on. Every time we team again they get another star.
Oh, well then, never mind. Better to brand em with a cheapskate tatt and leave it at that.


 

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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge View Post
Oh, well then, never mind. Better to brand em with a cheapskate tatt and leave it at that.


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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post


A tattoo - like this?
That's awesome. Are the polka dots on the hat actually buckshot?


 

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
Must we identify free players?
Yes.

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Why can't they just be "players," like everyone else?
Because they aren't. Free accounts have many restrictions, and being able to easily spot them makes it easier for Prem/VIP players to help them when those restrictions come into effect.

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Do we really need to put a marker on them and make it obvious that they are not VIP?
Asking the question twice isn't going to change the answer.

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Why not just... ask?
Because players free players can't answer because they aren't familiar with the chat restrictions, or some refuse to answer, and some flat out lie.



Why are you so negative and assume the worst about Prem/VIP's, when this game is well known for having the friendliest, most helpful community around.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Why are you so negative and assume the worst about Prem/VIP's, when this game is well known for having the friendliest, most helpful community around.
Just because it is known for being the friendliest and most helpful community doesn't mean everyone is friendly or helpful. People who grief are not limited to free players.


 

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How about all free players have their characters default idle animation be the "savage" (screaming ape emote from the animal pack) animation. That way a simple glimpse around Atlas can spot all the freebie players.

Oh have all their chat in the Help and LFG channel be preempted by "duh, I'm free"

seriously, I agree with the OP's concerns, and like sending pms before invites... Sadly, the LFG channel is the best solution we got currently.


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VIP - Premium - & Free players are PLAYERS regardless of how they pay (or don't.)

So flagging players as "free" is totally unnecessary.


 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
Special Salvage cannot be traded at all.

Some other pieces of salvage, like Event and Invention, can be traded.
My bad. I had lumped Event salvage in with Special in my head.


 

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I am on the fence as far as the original intent of this thread. On one hand I think a marker for freebs could come in handy for people running groups or who feel the need to be in a non-free chat situation. On the other hand I can see this as a 'scarlet letter' of potential (albeit silly) segregation with VIP's who would rather not team with a freeb for various reasons. I wouldn't exactly blame them, they paid for the game and the freeb didn't, but it can potentially cause them to miss out on a good teammate. As it is, I have teamed with freebs who were better than the VIP's on the team and had superb bios to boot. I would hate to have someone miss the chance to team with those people because of their short-sightedness.


 

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It's my opinion that, if there were to be some sort of visual identifier for VIP or Free, it should be something that one has to look for and not be clearly visible upon simply seeing the character (such as somewhere in the character info tabs, like the badges page).
Although, it'd be best if it was something that one could discover through searches probably... hmmm...

Another idea is just simply giving an automatic response to tells saying This player does not have full access to the tell system or some such thing.

All the jokes aside, this isn't about creating an easy identifier for processing... This is just about making the game experience better and smoother for everyone and putting some information in the hands of experienced players.

For the most part... I think people knowing that a player is a free player would make them want to help and give them a good playing experience.
Much like when we all flock to a new player on the forums.

Yes, there will always be some lousy people.

Besides... if we can't tell who is Free or not... How can we avoid obtaining one of their deadly FP viruses??


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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
VIP - Premium - & Free players are PLAYERS regardless of how they pay (or don't.)

So flagging players as "free" is totally unnecessary.
No one is saying they aren't players. They just want a easy way to tell if they are free so if a team wants to do a VIP thing like SSAs, or incarnates stuff they don't invite the poeple who can't.

Also you could show off your a powerset they can't get, if they like it they may want it more, witch is good.


 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
And freebies can't use it, because it uses /t which is restricted to higher reward tiers.
Actually it uses the /autoreply command, which is still restricted to higher tier.


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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
Another idea is just simply giving an automatic response to tells saying This player does not have full access to the tell system or some such thing.
This sounds like the best suggestion I've heard so far.


 

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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge View Post
Just because it is known for being the friendliest and most helpful community doesn't mean everyone is friendly or helpful. People who grief are not limited to free players.
And where exactly did I ever say that only players on free accounts griefed people?


 

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
VIP - Premium - & Free players are PLAYERS regardless of how they pay (or don't.)

So flagging players as "free" is totally unnecessary.
Except where account restrictions which affect game play, access to features, and communications are concerned.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
And where exactly did I ever say that only players on free accounts griefed people?
You didn't. You stated you have seen free players grief subscribers and are using it as part of your justification to single out a portion of the player base.

I don't think it is a valid justification.