Can Vigilante's/Rogue's Play the SSA?
By
Codewalker,
Posted on: 2012-03-28 08:07 in Player Questions
Any alignment can play any SSA, but you'd need to be a "confirmed" hero or villain to be able to choose the alignment merit reward. Also if souvenirs are important to you each SSA has a different one for the respective red and blue sides.
Have fun. 
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
--{=====> Virtue ♀
You'll want to remain the same alignment through them likely.
I've seen one report in the technical issues and bugs forum where somebody had switched alignments back and forth while doing the arcs and had strange results.
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I suppose somebody might have had some kind of trouble like that, but I've never seen it myself. I've had two characters do all 7 arcs on both sides (to get all 14 unique red and blue souvenirs for them) and never had any trouble completing any of them. When I did them I was constantly switching back and forth between red and blueside (mostly for badges) so I never did all of them one side then all of them the other.|
Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
You'll want to remain the same alignment through them likely.
I've seen one report in the technical issues and bugs forum where somebody had switched alignments back and forth while doing the arcs and had strange results. |
There has been some trouble with buginess with some of the individual arcs and some people have been confused by what it takes to be a "confirmed" hero or villain to get the alignment merits, but I don't think there's any problem with doing the arcs in any order with respect to being a red or bluesider.
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
--{=====> Virtue ♀
I was just saying their could be a bug with alignment changes and the SSA stuff because somebody reported one on the forums.
Thanks everyone for the replies. Appreciate the help!
Main Character: Ice/Storm/Ice Controller (Justice, 1340 badges)
From the ustream today, it sounds like the "strange results" that person reported (Manticore attacking them despite being a recently reformed hero) are intentional.
The game apparently remembers which SSAs you have actually played and changes the dialogue / events of SSA7 accordingly.
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So I guess that means as long as you've ever played any of the redside versions of those arcs, regardless of your current alignment, the game is going to let Manticore attack you as if you're still a redsider.|
Originally Posted by Codewalker
From the ustream today, it sounds like the "strange results" that person reported (Manticore attacking them despite being a recently reformed hero) are intentional.
The game apparently remembers which SSAs you have actually played and changes the dialogue / events of SSA7 accordingly. |
I suppose that makes some sense from a "why would Manticore attack you?" point of view because even if you're a reformed hero now you still did nasty things as a redsider at some point. This fits with what happened to my characters - I had a rogue and a vigilante both be attacked by Manticore, but like I mentioned in my last post that vigilante had played through all the previous SSAs as a redsider at some point as well so I guess she was still marked as a "bad guy" in Manti's eyes despite her current alignment.
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
--{=====> Virtue ♀
I know not everyone will, but I actually like that. So many things in CoH are relegated to metagaming these days, like switching sides just to get more badges, or selling your soul to Prometheus for more power, that it's a nice wake-up call from a narrative point of view. Some actions, like helping to kill Miss Liberty, are permanent, and no amount of metagaming can erase the fact that you did it.
Manticore always remembers, man, he remembers.
/patiently waits for characters with Hami-Os slotted to be corrupted by Hamidon, and ones leveled exclusively in AE to be rendered helpless when Dr. Aeon makes his move
I also prefer believability, immersion and open choices.
I'm also rather sick of the UI bloat and MUCH too many powers we have now. It's all a bit much for somebody who just wants to look cool while being super.
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I'm not sure which arc we're talking about here, but there's one (#4 maybe?) where you must fight Manticore whether you are a hero or a villain.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
So I guess that means as long as you've ever played any of the redside versions of those arcs, regardless of your current alignment, the game is going to let Manticore attack you as if you're still a redsider.
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I thought we were talking about the Manti encoutner in the latest arc (#7). Apparently whether or not you have to fight him there is based on what you did in the previous arcs. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon
I'm not sure which arc we're talking about here, but there's one (#4 maybe?) where you must fight Manticore whether you are a hero or a villain.
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Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
--{=====> Virtue ♀
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Manticore is under the influence of the Dirge of Chaos in that arc. Manticore and everyone else besides the player, Sister Psyche and Aurora were being influenced by an outside source during that mission.
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Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon
I'm not sure which arc we're talking about here, but there's one (#4 maybe?) where you must fight Manticore whether you are a hero or a villain.
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I thought he was just being a jerk. You sure his lawyers didn't just come up with that spin?
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
Manticore is under the influence of the Dirge of Chaos in that arc. Manticore and everyone else besides the player, Sister Psyche and Aurora were being influenced by an outside source during that mission.
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Just checking, as I've never been in this situation before. Can Vigilante's/Rogue's play the SSA's, or do you need to be full Hero/Villain alignment to play through them? Does it matter if the character was previously one side or the other when they played through the previous arcs?
Thanks in advance!
Main Character: Ice/Storm/Ice Controller (Justice, 1340 badges)