Nvidia GTX 680 released today
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Father Xmas,
Posted on: 2012-03-22 24:04 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Yes, many sites have their reviews today. It's power use is also surprisingly low for an nVidia ubercard. Now the question is how fast can nVidia fill all the price points with variants of this new architecture. Right now there is a huge gap between the GT 520 and the GTX 550Ti that's only filled by 400 series cards that are supposedly at their end of life, manufacturing wise. The one thing you can say that AMD does better than nVidia is having a video card at every $50 tick between $50 and $300.
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Well the better side effect are all of the rebates on older hardware. 67xx cards are under $100 (although its a fairly old design from the 57xx) and 6850 is just over $120 now.
The Nvidia cards are being stubborn about price drops, the 560 Ti was ironically cheapest right when it came out when it was just over $200 with rebates. It went up and down from $219-249.
So when the GTX 660 or whatever the mid market card is, I'll retire the GTX 260 Foreman Grill heater and stuff a 5750 into that old box. The current 5750 "game machine" can get the GTX 660.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
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Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
What I found most interesting was its "adaptive Vsync" which definitely seems like a great function.
I was also intrigued by its ability to change its clock speed without a manual adjustment and the usual risks of that(though it may still be risky).
From the way things look, the next time I need a new graphics card, this will be my first choice(when the price comes down) unless something better is out by then.
Thats the problem with that theory. When the price comes down its because there is something better 
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Thats the problem with that theory. When the price comes down its because there is something better
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Also, games should be getting more efficient in rendering as time goes on as well, so that card should still be good for quite a while.
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Well, technically it's not an actual successor to the 580.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Yes, many sites have their reviews today. It's power use is also surprisingly low for an nVidia ubercard. Now the question is how fast can nVidia fill all the price points with variants of this new architecture. Right now there is a huge gap between the GT 520 and the GTX 550Ti that's only filled by 400 series cards that are supposedly at their end of life, manufacturing wise. The one thing you can say that AMD does better than nVidia is having a video card at every $50 tick between $50 and $300.
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It's essentially a die-shrunk 560. It just happened to be powerful enough that they rolled it out in the flagship role.
I wonder what the GK110 product would have looked like...
Maybe I'll find out next month...
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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
What I found most interesting was its "adaptive Vsync" which definitely seems like a great function.
I was also intrigued by its ability to change its clock speed without a manual adjustment and the usual risks of that(though it may still be risky). From the way things look, the next time I need a new graphics card, this will be my first choice(when the price comes down) unless something better is out by then. |
The 680 won't ever be cheap, but there will likely be a lower end card with the same 28nm guts.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
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Oh, well hopefully it will run great.|
Originally Posted by newchemicals
The 680 won't ever be cheap, but there will likely be a lower end card with the same 28nm guts.
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I've got a GTX 465 that runs well enough that I'm stuck with right now, but I always love being able to turn settings up more without heating up more.
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Well, technically it's not an actual successor to the 580.
It's essentially a die-shrunk 560. It just happened to be powerful enough that they rolled it out in the flagship role. I wonder what the GK110 product would have looked like... Maybe I'll find out next month... |
The 680 has triple the number of cores that's found in the 580 and four times the number of cores in the 560TI. There is a trade off however, the individual cores are now clocked at the same speed as the rest of the GPU instead of 2x as found in the 500 series.
Wait, I know what happened Hyper, you only saw at the diagram for an SMX module. Well there are four of those on the 680.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
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The 680 has triple the number of cores that's found in the 580 and four times the number of cores in the 560TI. There is a trade off however, the individual cores are now clocked at the same speed as the rest of the GPU instead of 2x as found in the 500 series. Wait, I know what happened Hyper, you only saw at the diagram for an SMX module. Well there are four of those on the 680. |
The 560 was the GF104 core.
The 680 is the GK104 core.
The core is a "next-gen" 560.
As such, I'm wondering what kind of beast the GK110 core is/was and whether it was dropped or if we'll be seeing product based on it. I'm going to be touring nVidia next month when I fly in for the Summit. I'll probably come out and ask then. As I know the person giving me the tour will answer honestly instead of giving me market-speak.
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the problem is right now getting the 670/660 and lower cards out right now is the gpu foundry is having yield issues with there 28mm production. was in the news that they shut down the whole 28mm production due to low yeilds at the plants. there also a good news clip today on why nvidia and ati are not going to go to 22m and 14mm fabs as soon as they did with the 28mm fabs.
it looks as the fabs get smallers the cost to make the smaller fabs goes up it price so high that there no savings to the companies that switch to smaller fabs.
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Oh, well hopefully it will run great.
I've got a GTX 465 that runs well enough that I'm stuck with right now, but I always love being able to turn settings up more without heating up more. |
I find heat and power (and size of the video card) to be a bigger issue. Most of the decent cards play CoH just fine, its just some pump out so much heat, I don't have to use the heater in the house during winter.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
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Basically they're going to let companies like Intel forge the way ahead with smaller process manufacturing until more of the kinks are worked out and the results are more dependable.
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Originally Posted by microc
the problem is right now getting the 670/660 and lower cards out right now is the gpu foundry is having yield issues with there 28mm production. was in the news that they shut down the whole 28mm production due to low yeilds at the plants. there also a good news clip today on why nvidia and ati are not going to go to 22m and 14mm fabs as soon as they did with the 28mm fabs.
it looks as the fabs get smallers the cost to make the smaller fabs goes up it price so high that there no savings to the companies that switch to smaller fabs. |
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No matter, GPU number doesn't directly relate to the relative performance anyways.
GTX 480/470/465 used the GF100
GTX 580/570/560Ti448 used the GF110
GTX 680 uses the GK104
GTX 460 used the GF104
GTX 560/560Ti used the GF114
Also generally the higher the number, the slower the GPU. The GF119 powers the GT 520. Actually it's more probable that higher the number simply means a later design in the GPU family but nearly all later GPU designs are about downsizing the original GPU of the series for lower end cards.
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Now if they can only keep the card in supply.
The card does very nicely and blows away the 7970 for $500 ($50 cheaper than 7970)
Read all about it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...mark,3161.html
Once the supply catches up and other 6xx cards, expect some of the old gen cards from AMD and Nvidia to be heavily discounted and I would expect some large price drops from AMD's 79xx series cards.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD