Went premium, got zero global slots


Energy Lizard

 

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Just created an extra account, paid for one month of VIP and then went premium. But now I have zero global slots and zero server slots. I thought I was supposed to have 2 global slots?

What am I doing wrong? Can I contact support in-game without being able to log in to a character?


 

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A little more detail on the timeline please. It sounds like your account should still be VIP if you indeed just created it and paid for a month of time, even if you immediately cancelled the recurring payment.


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Read this carefully:

Does it say "0/2 global" at the top of the server character select screen you used?

Or, does it say "0/2 server" at the top of the same screen?

Or, does it say "2/2 server" at the top?


1) The "0/2" stuff actually means you have 2 slots but you haven't placed them yet.
(Edit: I think it works this way. I haven't had any global slots to spend for quite some time. The server slots definitely work this way, recording only the ones filled by characters as "used".)

2) As soon as you use a global slot on a server, it is locked to that server forever.

3) As soon as you make a character using a slot, it is locked to that character until the character is deleted, BUT does not travel with the character in a server transfer(this sucks) so that you need to buy a slot on the new server to move the character.




I wish they would make this all simpler to understand and more obvious, especially the "slots are locked once used and won't transfer" part.


 

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Originally Posted by Kosmos View Post
A little more detail on the timeline please. It sounds like your account should still be VIP if you indeed just created it and paid for a month of time, even if you immediately cancelled the recurring payment.
Started it 30+ days ago, played a month of VIP and now its just right after that. I think I went premium on MArch 8


 

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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus View Post
Read this carefully:

Does it say "0/2 global" at the top of the server character select screen you used?

Or, does it say "0/2 server" at the top of the same screen?

Or, does it say "2/2 server" at the top?


1) The "0/2" stuff actually means you have 2 slots but you haven't placed them yet.
(Edit: I think it works this way. I haven't had any global slots to spend for quite some time. The server slots definitely work this way, recording only the ones filled by characters as "used".)

2) As soon as you use a global slot on a server, it is locked to that server forever.

3) As soon as you make a character using a slot, it is locked to that character until the character is deleted, BUT does not travel with the character in a server transfer(this sucks) so that you need to buy a slot on the new server to move the character.




I wish they would make this all simpler to understand and more obvious, especially the "slots are locked once used and won't transfer" part.

It says

Global slots: 0
Server Used/TOtal: 0/0

Zeroes everywhere. THough I have 2 transfers?


 

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Originally Posted by Energy Lizard View Post
It says

Global slots: 0
Server Used/TOtal: 0/0

Zeroes everywhere. THough I have 2 transfers?
Have you tried all the servers to see "Server Used"? Another question: did you assign -any- slots to Exalted?




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
Have you tried all the servers to see "Server Used"? Another question: did you assign -any- slots to Exalted?
I have tried all servers and I have not assigned any slots to any server, but I have grave altitis and have 7-12 toons on each server that I created during the time I was VIP, including Exalted


 

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You wont get any extra slots. You must have 2 toons unlocked and playable somewhere.


 

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Originally Posted by _Klaw_ View Post
You wont get any extra slots. You must have 2 toons unlocked and playable somewhere.
I know I wont get extras, but I started VIP immediatly and never unlocked any toons and now I have zero, no unlocks, no character slots, no global slots, no servers slots. Nothing.


 

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Check all the servers and look for any toons that aren't locked or any empty slots that say create character. If none click on a toon (not in exalted) and see what message comes up. If it says you have no unlocks remaining then contact cs.


 

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Originally Posted by Energy Lizard View Post
I have tried all servers and I have not assigned any slots to any server, but I have grave altitis and have 7-12 toons on each server that I created during the time I was VIP, including Exalted
Let's see if I can ask this another way.

How many slots or usable characters on each of the following:
  • Freedom:
  • Infinity:
  • Liberty:
  • Pinnacle:
  • Triumph:
  • Victory:
  • Champion:
  • Guardian:
  • Justice:
  • Protector:
  • Virtue:
  • Defiant:
  • Union:
  • Vigilance:
  • Zukunft:
If you assigned 2 slots to exalted, you are out of luck and have to contact Customer Support, purchase more character slots, or re-subscribe.

Edit:
One server should show "Server Used/Total: 2/2" or two servers will be showing "Server Used/Total: 1/1".




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
If you assigned 2 slots to exalted, you are out of luck and have to contact Customer Support, purchase more character slots, or re-subscribe.
When you drop to Premium everything gets locked and it gives you your tokens to unlock what you choose. So Exalted shouldn't be an issue (which is undoubtedly one of the reasons they implemented it this way).

Assuming he didn't miss a server, it sounds as if something did indeed go awry and it will require customer service to resolve.


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Originally Posted by Kosmos View Post
When you drop to Premium everything gets locked and it gives you your tokens to unlock what you choose. So Exalted shouldn't be an issue (which is undoubtedly one of the reasons they implemented it this way).
In a limited sense you are correct. How limited? Let's see:
  • Once you assign a Global Slot to a server that slot cannot be moved to another server. Nothing you can do, and nothing the GMs will do will change this.
  • Once you assign a Server Slot to a character, that slot cannot be changed short of deleting the character. Changing to VIP then back to Premium doesn't change this selection. In other words, permanent.
So if the player added the 2 Global Slots to Exalted while he was a VIP, when his account went Premium those two Global Slots would became 2 Server Slots on Exalted. If every server other than the one the player can check shows 0/0 slots, then the player assigned the base 2 Global Slots to the now inaccessible server.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos View Post
Assuming he didn't miss a server, it sounds as if something did indeed go awry and it will require customer service to resolve.
Or that he assigned the two slots to Exalted.




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
In a limited sense you are correct. How limited? Let's see:
  • Once you assign a Global Slot to a server that slot cannot be moved to another server. Nothing you can do, and nothing the GMs will do will change this.
  • Once you assign a Server Slot to a character, that slot cannot be changed short of deleting the character. Changing to VIP then back to Premium doesn't change this selection. In other words, permanent.
So if the player added the 2 Global Slots to Exalted while he was a VIP, when his account went Premium those two Global Slots would became 2 Server Slots on Exalted. If every server other than the one the player can check shows 0/0 slots, then the player assigned the base 2 Global Slots to the now inaccessible server.


Or that he assigned the two slots to Exalted.
It is physically impossible to assign your two slots to Exalted, because it is physically impossible for a premium player to even access the Exalted server, and you don't assign your two slots until you've gone to premium.

Which is what Kosmos was saying, but spelled out more bluntly. What you are suggesting is impossible.

Now, what you might be thinking is if you bought or earned *extra* slots and assigned them all to Exalted, then those slots won't be available to you when you drop to Premium. But you should still have the default 2 slots.



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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
It is physically impossible to assign your two slots to Exalted, because it is physically impossible for a premium player to even access the Exalted server, and you don't assign your two slots until you've gone to premium.
You can assign your 2 global slots as a VIP. I know. My VIP account has 2 Global Slots from Freedom launch + 5 purchased slots. The game doesn't care if those slots were from Freedom Launch or me buying them. They are treated exactly the same. In fact, using the /mypurchases command, you will see a line like this:
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Name			Purchased		Used		Expires		Product
Character Slot x1		22		20		Never		SVCSLOTS
I took that snapshot at Freedom Launch. 22 purchased (10 bought, 10 from various reward sources, 2 from Freedom Launch).

Code:
Name			Purchased		Used		Expires		Product
Character Slot x1		27		20		Never		SVCSLOTS
Recently I checked again. This shows the extra 5 slots I bought in December.

Code:
Name			Purchased		Used		Expires		Product
Character Slot x1		6		4		Never		SVCSLOTS
This is my Premium Account. It had 2 slots from Issue 12 (applied), 2 from Going Rogue retail (applied), and 2 from Freedom.

And look, the player was a VIP:
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Originally Posted by Energy Lizard View Post
Just created an extra account, paid for one month of VIP and then went premium. But now I have zero global slots and zero server slots. I thought I was supposed to have 2 global slots?

What am I doing wrong? Can I contact support in-game without being able to log in to a character?
See? He was a VIP. At that point, if he wasn't paying attention, applied the Global Slots to Exalted those slots are permanently on Exalted.

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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
Which is what Kosmos was saying, but spelled out more bluntly. What you are suggesting is impossible.
No, it isn't. The 2 Global Slots are available as a VIP player. If you assign them while being a VIP to Exalted, they are permanently on Exalted.

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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
Now, what you might be thinking is if you bought or earned *extra* slots and assigned them all to Exalted, then those slots won't be available to you when you drop to Premium. But you should still have the default 2 slots.
Get this: The two "Global Slots" are treated as "Character Slots" before Issue 21. The game doesn't treat those two slots any different than a purchased slot. So Kosmos and you are wrong.




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Well, I was thinking those 2 global slots were a Freedom launch thing, and therefore he wouldn't have had them on an account created just a month ago.

The game FAQ answer on global slots states "Any purchased slots will remain available on the account, even if VIP status is declined." If purchased slots applied to Exalted don't result in global tokens when one drops to Premium, then that statement is more than a little bit misleading; with "available on the account" meaning something quite different than what I believe most people would assume.

I've never applied extra slots on Exalted... does it pop up a warning that they'll become inaccessible if you drop to Premium? If it doesn't then the OP might have a slim chance of finding a sympathetic ear in CS. Otherwise, he's probably out of luck (and slots).


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Originally Posted by Kosmos View Post
Well, I was thinking those 2 global slots were a Freedom launch thing, and therefore he wouldn't have had them on an account created just a month ago.
Every account gets 2 slots, including F2P players.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos View Post
The game FAQ answer on global slots states "Any purchased slots will remain available on the account, even if VIP status is declined." If purchased slots applied to Exalted don't result in global tokens when one drops to Premium, then that statement is more than a little bit misleading; with "available on the account" meaning something quite different than what I believe most people would assume.
From the FAQ:
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One notable difference is that Free Players are limited to two character slots total, plus any character slots directly purchased or earned through Veteran Rewards. All existing characters will be saved and reenabled if a player subscribes as a VIP Player.
Purchased slots remain where they are applied.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos View Post
I've never applied extra slots on Exalted... does it pop up a warning that they'll become inaccessible if you drop to Premium? If it doesn't then the OP might have a slim chance of finding a sympathetic ear in CS. Otherwise, he's probably out of luck (and slots).
Given other responses from the GMs/Customer Support, even if they are sympathetic, they can't (or won't) change server slot assignments.




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If I understand this correctly, when you're VIP the 2 global slots act as extra slots? So you have 12 slots per server, and you can apply your two global slots to any server to have up to 14 slots on that server?

And then if you've done this, when you drop to premium those slots are locked in to that particular server?

If that's how it works, then yeah... if you applied them to Exalted, then you'd be screwed. Seems like a flaw with how the system works, but I guess the lesson is not to go all-out assigning extra slots to the VIP server if there's a chance you're not going to remain VIP.

We still haven't heard if that is, in fact, what the OP did.

I was under the impression that all slots would be locked when you go to Premium, and you could unlock whichever two characters you wanted (plus any extra slots you had). And really, I still don't see why it doesn't work that way. But whatever. Since I play primarily on a single server it's never been an issue to me.



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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
If I understand this correctly, when you're VIP the 2 global slots act as extra slots? So you have 12 slots per server, and you can apply your two global slots to any server to have up to 14 slots on that server?

And then if you've done this, when you drop to premium those slots are locked in to that particular server?
That is exactly how it works. Customer Support and the /mypurchases command pretty much agree this is the case.

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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
If that's how it works, then yeah... if you applied them to Exalted, then you'd be screwed. Seems like a flaw with how the system works, but I guess the lesson is not to go all-out assigning extra slots to the VIP server if there's a chance you're not going to remain VIP.
Pretty much.

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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
We still haven't heard if that is, in fact, what the OP did.
If the original poster looked at 15 servers (Freedom, Infinity, Liberty, Pinnacle, Triumph, Victory, Champion, Guardian, Justice, Protector, Virtue, Defiant, Union, Vigilance, and Zukunft) and all 15 showed 0/0 server slots, then the remaining slots would logically be on the 16th server: Exalted.

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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
I was under the impression that all slots would be locked when you go to Premium, and you could unlock whichever two characters you wanted (plus any extra slots you had).
A lot of people were under the same impression, including the Community Reps. However the Billing, Design, and Business Management departments had a different opinion.




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Originally Posted by Kosmos View Post
I've never applied extra slots on Exalted... does it pop up a warning that they'll become inaccessible if you drop to Premium? If it doesn't then the OP might have a slim chance of finding a sympathetic ear in CS. Otherwise, he's probably out of luck (and slots).
I have. Other than the standard warning you get about applying a global slot being a permanent choice, there is no additional warning because it's a VIP-only server. Though, I think the standard warning kind of applies.


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