Staff fighting NOT launching with i22...

I was also waiting on Staff Fighting to start playing again. I really want to play a new character using this set. I wouldn't say it's the only thing about the new issue I am interested in, but not having Staff Fighting certainly takes the wind out of my sails. Issue 22 is well timed, though, as my interesting in the new game I have been playing has waned.

Staff sort of recycles a few of the previous melee sets to have come out, so I've noticed. My guess melee is the easiest to develop. That or a majority of people play scrappers/brutes/stalkers/tankers.

Most likely, both.

From the current i22 email, in the Word on the Street section.

"I can't wait for staff fighting. It's a ton of fun on beta."

They taunt us.

Why does everyone here feel that they deserve powersets on THEIR schedule? It is up to the game developers to decide when things get released (or marketing). We will get it when we get and it will be great.

Patience, after all, is a virtue.

Please don't take this as having a very defensive or combative tone, because I truly do not that feel that way. But for the sake of discussion, please consider the following:

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Originally Posted by Xyzor when a company represents something as being part of an update (by, I don't know, showing those things in the trailer for the release)

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven They never did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akUj6...1&feature=plcp

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven Inclusion in a video does not put it in the Patch Notes.

Sorry, but putting action shots of a powerset in a Trailer Titled "Issue 22: Death Incarnate" IS representing that said content will be part of the referenced content issue. There is just no way around that. If you saw a movie trailer, and there was a shot of Bruce Willis, or some other highly recognizable actor, in the trailer, and then you saw the movie, even if his name wasn't used to sell that movie, and he never showed up, you might feel a little misled. His name might not have been in the credits, but you saw him in an official clip from the movie, so you are reasonable to expect him to be there. Imperfect analogy, maybe, but accurate enough to support my point.

Now, do I think it was intentional? Absolutely not. Do I think they did anything wrong? As stated earlier, absolutely not. Was I disappointed that it wasn't included in the actual release (or wasn't going to be, since i did find out a few days before launch)? Absolutely. Was I somehow incorrect or arrogant or selfish for feeling that way? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven Yes, but making such a post further feeds into the unwarranted expectations

I agree that the exact wording of my original post may have made it seem like there was some level of expectation that it would be included, and I admit that was on purpose, because I figured (apparently correctly) that some people did not know that it wasn't going to be included.

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven and fans the flames of those too entitled to realize they don't get things just because they want them to be in an Issue release.

I see nothing wrong with creating a post where people who are similarly disappointed can commiserate in that disappointment. There really wasn't a lot of dev-bashing, just shared opinions that we were all excited for that piece of content and really wished it had been included.

I like how you took something I purposely didn't quote... and set it next to my statement out of context. Thanks for that.

The video was to promote the Issue release AND the series of Paragon Market releases after that release but in the same "cycle" of content that comes out pre-Issue 23. Simple as that. They have referred to this idea several times throughout different discussions.

Also, your Bruce Willis example falls flat as a comparison. Something closer to the mark would be if he were in a screen-test, and some people saw it. Then, he appeared in a trailer... and that further hyped people. All the while, the producers of the movie were talking about how Bruce's scene wouldn't appear in the first releases of the movie for some technical reason, but would be added into the movie at a slightly later date for theatres whose opening dates are later. Man, this movie analogy really doesn't fit at all... movies just don't work like games at all where new content is constantly added... as per normal. Movies are released as is, and don't get updated until a DVD release or years later.

I'd also like to comment that my overall "attitude" (if you can call it that), is not motivated solely by posts in this thread, but also those in similar threads on this topic as well as the overarching idea held by many players (not necessarily those here) that think in a very entitled way about content releases and what the Devs should be doing specifically to make them happy because "they pay for the game."

We are in a brave new world where issues releases and store releases get mashed together. I'm not surprised that the distinction between the two is blurred in some marketing.