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So after much trouble, I can now finally do Valentine Tips.

The first one I get needs to go to a guy called Siege.

I find from the Paragon Wiki he's a Praetorian, but no location and I can't find him anywhere.

The Location on the mission says "Board Transit". I tried boarding the Cole Transit Authority but that doesn't work.

I've searched Paragon Wiki, these forums and looked at the maps on Vidiotmaps. I can't find a clue anywhere.

Can someone explain what "Board Transit" might mean and how to get to Siege?

I'm starting to get rather fed up with how hard all this Valentine stuff is. Too many things are just not obvious: You need to be level 20+, you can't do it as a Praetorian, you need to do both the Hero and the Villain missions. The winter event was a lot less complicated.


 

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"Board Transit" missions are instanced and can be reached via any multi-destination transit point (trams, ferries, ouroboros). Just head to the nearest one and you'll see your mission as a destination option at the very top, separated from the regular destinations by a divider.

Incidentally, I happen to agree about the complexity of the Valentine's tip system - it's a bit cumbersome just to figure out how to unlock it, since even vet players who've already done the Ganymede/Scratch content have to do it again, and the tip assignment seems to be completely random, making charaacters who are pure hero or pure villain unable to complete certain Tips if they can't access those zones. It's a neat idea and there's a lot of clever writing in the Tips (both comedic and dramatic), but the implementation could have used some polish. Maybe next year.


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Originally Posted by Justaris View Post
"Board Transit" missions are instanced and can be reached via any multi-destination transit point (trams, ferries, ouroboros). Just head to the nearest one and you'll see your mission as a destination option at the very top, separated from the regular destinations by a divider.

Incidentally, I happen to agree about the complexity of the Valentine's tip system - it's a bit cumbersome just to figure out how to unlock it, since even vet players who've already done the Ganymede/Scratch content have to do it again, and the tip assignment seems to be completely random, making charaacters who are pure hero or pure villain unable to complete certain Tips if they can't access those zones. It's a neat idea and there's a lot of clever writing in the Tips (both comedic and dramatic), but the implementation could have used some polish. Maybe next year.
Oh. Thank you very much.

I've been trying to find this guy for over an hour.

It finally worked when I boarded a Ferry. Going from one area to another in Praetoria, or using the Cole Transit Authority there, or using the teleport at my SG's base, or going to Pocket D didn't give me anything.
Only when using the Ferry did I get an extra option.


 

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By the way, Board Transit missions are not new to the Valentine's Day event, they've been in the game for ages (possibly since the beginning, not sure about that though). I would guess that the CTA doesn't count because I don't think there are any such missions in Praetoria.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
By the way, Board Transit missions are not new to the Valentine's Day event, they've been in the game for ages (possibly since the beginning, not sure about that though). I would guess that the CTA doesn't count because I don't think there are any such missions in Praetoria.
I have only been in this game since Christmas. They are new to me. I've searched the Paragon Wiki, this Forum and the Vidiotmaps site before making my post. None mention it in any way. I've taken the liberty of making a page for it on the Paragon Wiki, if there ever is another hapless soul like me who can't figure it out.

My gripe about the Valentine event was more about what I needed to do to get to the point where I could get my first Tip mission.

1) I was level 12 Resistance when the event started. I did the missions from Gaynemede, the second one with help from a friend on a Villain.

2) Then I was stuck until I found a thread on this forum mentioning that I also needed to help a Villain complete their mission to progress. After that I could do the Snaptooth mission.

3) I didn't get any Tips and figured out from the Paragon Wiki that I needed to be level 20. So I levelled to 20. Still no Tips. Talk to DJ Zero. Just the Snaptooth mission. Talk to Scratch, no longer Gaynemede, he gives me a new mission to talk to DJ Zero, which still only has the Snaptooth mission.

4) Then I get a hint from another player that I need to speak with DJ Zero in person, not use the call button in Contacts. This works and makes me "Attuned". I now receive messages that I'm getting Tips but they don't show in the interface.

5) After more digging, I get to hear Praetorians don't have a Tip window tab. I need to finish Praetoria and choose Hero or Villain to see the Tips I've been receiving.

6) So I take a day to make up my mind what I want to do and then go Villain like my friend and my other characters. All of a sudden I now have this tip window full of Valentine and Alignment Tips. I then try to do my first tip and I get the choice to deliver to two Praetorians (according to Paragon Wiki): Siege or Anti-Matter. At first I am lost, because from the wiki and the mission text I understood that you can't actually go to Praetoria after you leave it.

7) Then someone points out that this is not true and you can go though Pocket D. I spend the next hour searching for Siege until I made this post. I even tried what the mission said, to board the transit. The only transit I know is the Cole Transit Authority. Apparently there's one in Paragon City as well, but my character is a Villain now. I have one low level Hero but he's only been to Atlas and Perez Park, I understand it's the monorail thing from the wiki.

8) I get a nice quick answer from Justaris and can finally complete my first Valentine Tip mission.

Without Paragon Wiki, these forums and a lot of help from more experienced players in game channels, I would probably not have figured this out. There are too many things where the game itself doesn't give you any clues.


 

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Recommendation: Try moving this thread to the "Suggestions and Ideas" forum, where the Devs might see it. At the moment, you're posting in the Player Questions forum. The purpose of this forum is for players to answer other player's questions; the actual Paragon Studios people don't read this one much.


 

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That does seem overly complicated. I didn't realize that Praetorians could get tips but not see them, how messed up is that?



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Without Paragon Wiki, these forums and a lot of help from more experienced players in game channels, I would probably not have figured this out. There are too many things where the game itself doesn't give you any clues.
I completely agree with you. I am still after years of playing this game continually amazed at this business model that has the players answering questions that customer service should be answering.

However, if it were like the way I think it should be, then I could probably expect to pay 50 dollars a month instead of 15. (and even less with the long term sub)

And if the Devs aren't looking here, it because they are scared of the truth. They do a horrible job of making some things clear. Very little about this game is intuitive.


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Originally Posted by RogerWilco View Post
I have only been in this game since Christmas. They are new to me. I've searched the Paragon Wiki, this Forum and the Vidiotmaps site before making my post. None mention it in any way. I've taken the liberty of making a page for it on the Paragon Wiki, if there ever is another hapless soul like me who can't figure it out.
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was criticizing you, just wanted to make sure you knew that they appear elsewhere in the game if you happen to see them.

I actually did see the article on the wiki before making my post, but I assumed it was made by someone else who saw your post.

Come to think of it, I think they may not have always been called Board Transit. Back in the day, it used to be Board Train, or Board Ferry redside, but at some point (want to say after they merged the ferry/train lines) they changed it, hence the current confusion.


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It sounds like RogerWilco started playing this game as a Praetorian and ran up against the strange scenario that there are no "Board Transit" opportunities there for a player to learn about. The Devs probably didn't account for this as a possibility because those are (and have been) a relatively common occurrence in the rest of the game since in 2004. Most players would have already seen those before - who knew a player might have to learn about how that works via the Spring Fling event?

Glad to see RogerWilco figured it out regardless.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
Come to think of it, I think they may not have always been called Board Transit. Back in the day, it used to be Board Train, or Board Ferry redside, but at some point (want to say after they merged the ferry/train lines) they changed it, hence the current confusion.
Even when it said Board Train you could still use the Striga Ferry out of Striga. Basically any zone transfer which gave a dialog to select the zone will work - this includes ones which normally won't if the destination zone has a second instance spawned.


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And since you can get it at level 14 now, the Ouroboros portal is usually the quickest way to get to any "Board Transit" mission.