a idea for hero side powers
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afro_poptart,
Posted on: 2012-02-13 23:30 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
I think this sounds interesting to be honest. I think learning from Synapse or Positron and getting powers inspired from them would be cool.
Hmmm...
*lowers voice to whisper* This would be best placed in the Suggestions and Ideas section, 
As for the suggestion itself. I kind of like it actually. Many a time I've wanted to take a specific patron pool on a hero, but haven't wanted to take them rogue to do so. This would give both sides the ability to have either without needing to sideswitch.
If you added it so that, the Hero epic equivalents for redside unlocked automatically at 35 and the Villian patron equivalents for Blue required running a few 'patron' missions then it would still be equal.
Also, you could call the Hero patron pools something like Sidekick knowledge. Being mentored by Positron has given you such and such yada yada yada.
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Originally Posted by afro_poptart
I'm not sure were to put this. I'm not a forum person much, so don't yell at me.
So I have a thought, since the hero epics are given and the villain patrons you have to work for and seem better in my eyes. Why not have epics be given to all? Hero patrons that have to be earned just like the villian that are a little better than the epics and equal with the villain patrons. I'd love to study under Back Ally Brawler or Positron and get some powers inspired by them. I don't know what else to put, so have fun? |
And it would be nice, but I think...unlikely. The game is shifting away from the FP with using being the main heroes now, so we don't need to learn from them, we are already better.
Yeah, this one's been suggested many, many times (the Suggestions forum is thataway, by the way), and every time, I have the same reaction:
I want my hero to be the star of the show, not second banana to someone else. I want to be Batman, not Robin.
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I'd actually rather they went the other way with it. I don't particularly want to have to go all the way to villain and then back to hero on some characters just so I can pick up a patron pool that I want.
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Originally Posted by firespray
I'd actually rather they went the other way with it. I don't particularly want to have to go all the way to villain and then back to hero on some characters just so I can pick up a patron pool that I want.
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They could very easily introduce heroside arcs that award hero equivalents to the badges that currently unlock patron pools - maybe your hero is able to get his hands on Black Scorpion's armor blueprints. Maybe your character fought Scirocco and was able to absorb some Mu magic through the aid of Numina. Who knows? The options are limitless. There are more ways to learn new powers than to be taught them, especially in a world where no power is unique.
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Originally Posted by firespray
I'd actually rather they went the other way with it. I don't particularly want to have to go all the way to villain and then back to hero on some characters just so I can pick up a patron pool that I want.
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Sorry, the only patron option that is better than the free epic sets is the one that gives power boost to Corrupters and Defenders (soul)
Some hero side arcs to get access to the Patron pools would be pretty cool - always up for new story arcs and it's not like there's much content blue side dealing with Arachnos.
And if they did do that they could then also make Patron pools around hero patrons with arcs both sides to unlock them..
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Originally Posted by Rikti
Sorry, the only patron option that is better than the free epic sets is the one that gives power boost to Corrupters and Defenders (soul)
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But other Patrons are good too.
Brutes and Tanks can get a few extra AoEs out of Leviathan and Mu. Mu's AoE immob is invalueable to those that benefit from keeping their enemies nearby, and Mako's highly non-resisted cones do impressive damage in the hands of a brute with high fury.
Many squishies benefit from Scorpion Shield, especially if they're aiming for a softcapped build. And Bane Spiders get better blasts from Mace than from their primary, and an amazing melee attack - and Mace Mastery doesn't cause redraw when paired with Bane Spider Mace.
And what sane controller is going to turn their nose up at an extra pet? Or defender for that matter?
There's other good stuff in Patron Pools too. Soul isn't the only good Patron, and Power Boost isn't the only reason to take Soul.
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im not sure were to put this, im not a form person much so dont yell at me
so i have a thought, sence the hero epics are given and the villan patrens you have to work for and seem better in my eyes. Why not have epics be given to all? Hero patrens that have to be erned just like the vill that are a lil better than the epics and equal with the vill patrens. Ide love to study under Back ally brawler or possi and get some powers inspired by them.
i dont know what else to put so have fun?