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You'll be able to get threads and other components from doing missions and arcs in DA. You'll be able to repeat those arcs multiple times, and once you get used to doing them doubtless you'll be able to stealth through them and optimize your reward rate.|
Originally Posted by Warfarin88
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Whether that's faster than shards I can't say. But at least it's different...
You run the right TFs that give the components needed for whatever alpha you plan to build plus the WST it really isn't that many. Or you could go the trial route and skip shards altogether.
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Does the alpha use different components than the other (thread) slots? I don't think shards will drop in the zone, so I'm wondering if alpha components wouldn't be available either. |
Originally Posted by Rodion
You'll be able to get threads and other components from doing missions and arcs in DA. You'll be able to repeat those arcs multiple times, and once you get used to doing them doubtless you'll be able to stealth through them and optimize your reward rate.
Whether that's faster than shards I can't say. But at least it's different... |
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Originally Posted by Lucky666
You run the right TFs that give the components needed for whatever alpha you plan to build plus the WST it really isn't that many. Or you could go the trial route and skip shards altogether.
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All of the alpha abilities also have a recipe for non-alpha-components. Scroll down in the creation window.
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Originally Posted by Warfarin88
Does the alpha use different components than the other (thread) slots? I don't think shards will drop in the zone, so I'm wondering if alpha components wouldn't be available either.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
All of the alpha abilities also have a recipe for non-alpha-components. Scroll down in the creation window.
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So if I understand this right, as long as I save the "raw" shards I'll need for my tier 4, I can safely use any extra shards to create components now, and then shift over to the new DA content once that begins.
That would work.
EDIT: err no. I technically wouldn't need any shards if I'm earning threads instead. So I can safely burn any shards I've collected so far.
I think.
My latest 50 went from opening the Alpha to tier 4 in two days using threads. It was a total of about 5-6 trials of various sorts plus running Mortimer Kai and the WST and converting the two Notices to threads. Admittedly, I did get lucky and got a very rare and a rare drop in there, but otherwise it was so much easier and quicker than trying to create it with shards.
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I'm counting 216 for a T4, if you already have both T3s. With only one T3 you'd need 12+20+96+216 = 344.|
Originally Posted by Warfarin88
T1: 12 shards
T2: 20 shards T3: 96 shards T4: 240 shards (assuming one T3 is already complete) |
You can cut down on the t3/t4 numbers a LOT if you're willing to run the WST, because building Notices from shards is horrible. I don't know how dedicated you are to soloing your way through this, though. And, as mentioned, Dark Astoria will help.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
I'm counting 216 for a T4, if you already have both T3s. With only one T3 you'd need 12+20+96+216 = 344.
You can cut down on the t3/t4 numbers a LOT if you're willing to run the WST, because building Notices from shards is horrible. I don't know how dedicated you are to soloing your way through this, though. And, as mentioned, Dark Astoria will help. |
Since we differed, I worked it out "long hand":
common component: 4 shards
uncommon component: 1 common + 8 shards = 12 shards
notice of the well: 4x uncommon + 40 shards = (4 x 12) + 40 = 88 shards
favor of the well: 2x notice + 32 shards = (2 x 88) + 32 = 208 shards
T1 = 3 common = 3 x 4 = 12 shards
T2 = 2 common + 1 uncommon = (2 x 4) + 12 = 20 shards
T3 = 2 common + 1 notice = (2 x 4) + 88 = 96 shards
total for one T3 = 12 + 20 + 96 = 128 shards
T4 = T3 x 2 + 1 common + 1 uncommon + 1 favor = (128 x 2) + 4 + 12 + 208 = 480 shards
480 - 128 = 352 shards if one T3 complete
480 - (128 x 2) = 224 shards if both T3 complete
Sigh. I think that's right. At least the math is a little easier to check now.
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To put this into perspective for any onlookers out there: To date, I have one tier 3 complete + 102 shards banked. I've done this entirely in super group mode, so my influence earning has been reduced. I've done nearly no marketeering (I sold one respec recipe, everything else I didn't craft went to the vendor). Despite being not even half way to T4; I've accumulated well over 1 billion in influence and have banked around 50 purple recipes, plus a whole base full of "decent" non-purple IO's. It's pretty ridiculous. Hope for better days in I22.
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It's much faster to unlock your alpha via threads. Although you can mix it up a bit. T3 alpha /can/ be easier to earn with shards than with threads pending on your luck and potentially if you want to save your emps/rares for other things.|
Originally Posted by Warfarin88
Grinding away solo for my T4 alpha, and wondering if I have this right. I already have one T3 complete. These numbers are not cumulative.
T1: 12 shards T2: 20 shards T3: 96 shards T4: 240 shards (assuming one T3 is already complete) Is that right? Is there anything in I22 that will ease this pain any? |
T3 with threads = 2 commons + rare (either you get lucky or spend 8 emps or convert up)
T3 with shards = 2 commons(8 shards or 1-2 appropriate TFs) + Notice (simply run a Mortimer Kal (takes 20 mins) or the WST for a guaranteed drop) and this lets you save your threads/rares for other incarnate slots.
You will probably have a few shards on hand from just normally playing your toon.
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If you're running trials, definitely. Or in Dark Astoria, also definitely.|
Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
It's much faster to unlock your alpha via threads.
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If he doesn't want to team for the WST, though, I'm guessing he doesn't want to team for trials, either.
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Heh. See my edit. |
Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
You will probably have a few shards on hand from just normally playing your toon.
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Depending on the WST, many of them can be solo'd, same with Mortimer Kal. Grab some fillers and go at it.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
If he doesn't want to team for the WST, though, I'm guessing he doesn't want to team for trials, either.
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Whoa! Do the Weekly Strike Target to get the Notice of the Well.|
Originally Posted by Warfarin88
T3: 96 shards
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Do 4 WST's to get to tier 4.
Plus you're likely to get lots of shards along the way.
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Another thing to consider ... if you run a SSA twice each week you can select 10 Threads as one reward and 1 Astral Merit as the second reward and the Astral Merit can be converted into 4 threads.
20 threads make a common component and 60 make an uncommon. Also, the first time you run any particular SSA you can pick a reward of your choice without affecting the weekly timer ... so ... run the 5 parts that are out now and any one of them a second time and you'll get 60 threads. After that first run of each arc you'll only be able to get the 10 threads once per week tho.
That's how I've been equipping my incarnate powers ... you can use the Astral Merit vendor in Oro to convert an Astral Merit into 4 threads for any level 50 on your account. So, 5 level 50s all running SSA part 1 (the fastest one solo) once a week earn 5 Astral Merits, which gets 20 threads on any one level 50 each week - which is a common component.
It's not anywhere close to as fast as running the incarnate trials ... but if you only solo it's the fastest way until issue 22 hits.
You will get sick of running the same SSA over & over & over tho ... :/
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Whoa! Do the Weekly Strike Target to get the Notice of the Well.
Do 4 WST's to get to tier 4. Plus you're likely to get lots of shards along the way. |
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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As a dedicated solo player myself who has been testing in DA with 50's, rest assured that your pain will be greatly eased by the progression rate there. Once you start playing there, you can convert all those banked shards to threads and be that much further ahead in the game.|
Originally Posted by Warfarin88
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It's pretty ridiculous. Hope for better days in I22. |
I admire your persistence for sticking with one character long enough to get your Alpha as advanced as you have. You will be extraordinarily delighted with the new DA and will have those other 4 slots unlocked before you know it.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Do you people just not read? S/he's said three times now that s/he's not teaming.
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Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
Depending on the WST, many of them can be solo'd, same with Mortimer Kal. Grab some fillers and go at it.
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Awesome news. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Fritzy
As a dedicated solo player myself who has been testing in DA with 50's, rest assured that your pain will be greatly eased by the progression rate there. Once you start playing there, you can convert all those banked shards to threads and be that much further ahead in the game.
I admire your persistence for sticking with one character long enough to get your Alpha as advanced as you have. You will be extraordinarily delighted with the new DA and will have those other 4 slots unlocked before you know it. |
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I read just fine. I was responding to the first post. "Grinding away solo" does NOT mean "I refuse to team". That was made apparent later - after the post to which I responded, but prior to your snark. |
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Do you people just not read? S/he's said three times now that s/he's not teaming.
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Grinding away solo for my T4 alpha, and wondering if I have this right. I already have one T3 complete. These numbers are not cumulative.
T1: 12 shards
T2: 20 shards
T3: 96 shards
T4: 240 shards (assuming one T3 is already complete)
Is that right?
EDIT: It's not right. See below.
Is there anything in I22 that will ease this pain any?