Midnighter Arc only for Arc Holder?
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Posted on: 2011-12-27 21:35 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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It was never announced, so, more than likely a bug, so, please /bug it.
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Originally Posted by Legion_of_One
Friends and I encountered an issue with the Midnighter Arc this evening. None of us except the mission holder were awarded the Midnighter Badge and access to the club. Were were all given the Lost Savior badge, however. I sent a petition, and a GM responded that they would send the problem up the chain. I received an email from GM Grackle advising that this arc only rewards the arc holder.
Was anyone else aware of this change, and was it announced at some time? |
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On the other hand, I don't remember any announcement that it was ever supposed to award access to the Midnighter Club to anybody else except for the mission holder. (Also, while I cannot be sure, I believe it worked like this back when Cimerora was introduced.)|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
It was never announced, so, more than likely a bug, so, please /bug it.
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This might be a bug fix rather than a change of intent.
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Never announced as a change, but I assume it was the way to correct the other bug regarding completion and the badge.
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I have done this arc many times ,solo and in teams but I have always taken the missions at the same time as the team leader or mission owner that way I am sure to get the badge as well.
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This must be a change. I got the badge, didn't have the arc and was invited only for the lost cure mission. I waited by the door until he completed it then got the badge when he ave the password to the student. Pre-I21.5.
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It did not work like this back then in issue 12. I remember that we tried this, because it's a rather long story arc that cannot be done quickly if you realize that the hero you wanted to play the ITF with didn't unlock Cimerora yet. (Oops?)|
Originally Posted by Legion_of_One
It's troubling that I've had to explain and re-explain how this mission arc has worked since its inception in Issue 12, only to receive an "oh well" response.
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A friend of mine confirmed that you could actually get the badge from another hero's mission a while ago, but that bug must have been introduced more recently. It wasn't present when i12 launched.
Also, since the developers are in no way required to publish each and every bug fix, it's entirely possible that many people, including customer support, never knew it did not work as intended for a while. (And if some of them knew, they might not be allowed to talk about it.)
I remember the arc always rewarding everyone on the team, and I have run this arc at least 50 times. As for reporting, this arc worked one way for years with no mention of it being bugged. This is a significant change-- I ran the arc twice with a friend without receiving the Midnighter badge before I was told that the arc only rewards the mission holder. Many players will be surprised by this change, and it's less of a bug issue than changing the rules of this mission arc. There are plenty of examples of missions where everyone on the team receives credit, even while playing someone else's mission arc. The Praetorian AV arcs come to mind, as does "Rescue The Fortune Teller," which awards the Spelunker badge. I've seen far less consequential changes reported than this in the past. I'm still not convinced this is working as intended.
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This is probably to combat the people who get invited to the team only for the "Speak to the Latin Student" portion of the arc, and get midnighter access for doing nothing.
Its to slow down the AE/DFB 1-35 -> ITF 35-50 path.
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So, can we get a redname to chime in? Bug? Intentional? Affecting all badge missions? Just this mission?
..and if it's an undocumented intentional change I imagine there's going to be some words exchanged in a heated manner, so I'm hoping for 'bug'.
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...if DfB and the ITF are faster than intended, wouldn't it make more sense to change those directly, rather than add a whole 45 minutes of doing the arc?
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Originally Posted by newchemicals
Its to slow down the AE/DFB 1-35 -> ITF 35-50 path.
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Tested this out.
Via Plague Stopper badge mish in ouro: Both party members got badge.
Via Negotiator badge mish in KR: Both party members got badge.
Appears to be Midnighter specific thus far.
The Devs *really* want people to learn Latin.
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Well, really it's not Midnighter specific. If we think about it as not simply a BADGE, but rather an UNLOCK, then there is precedent. When you do the arc to unlock Katie Hannon or Ernesto Hess, only the mission holder gets the contact unlocked - UNLESS you use Ouroboros, in which case the whole team gets it.|
Originally Posted by lenilya
Tested this out.
Via Plague Stopper badge mish in ouro: Both party members got badge. Via Negotiator badge mish in KR: Both party members got badge. Appears to be Midnighter specific thus far. |
Now, I've never actually checked but, since everyone is automatically assigned Monty as a contact, and you can't outlevel him, I'm guessing his arc does not appear in Ouroboros. Is this the case?
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This also happened to my friend, and we were both.... "
". He stayed up past bedtime to complete the arc, but was new and didnt know he coulda/shoulda taken the missions the same time as me and used autocomplete....got to the end, he didn't get midnight access. Stupid GM he got from his escalated petition told him the solution was "talk to Montague Castanella and run his story arc to earn this badge", totally ignoring all the detailed info I was sure to have him layout so the worst GM possible could have some insight into our situation.
And on that sidenote; WTF happened to CoH Support?
I also know for a fact that it used to award the entire team. Friends would send me a tell saying they were completing it asking if I wanted it free, I'd join, password, access.
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Friends and I encountered an issue with the Midnighter Arc this evening. None of us except the mission holder were awarded the Midnighter Badge and access to the club. Were were all given the Lost Savior badge, however. I sent a petition, and a GM responded that they would send the problem up the chain. I received an email from GM Grackle advising that this arc only rewards the arc holder.
Was anyone else aware of this change, and was it announced at some time?
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