Have Lore Pets always spawned -1 to you? (Level 49)


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Originally Posted by Codewalker View Post
Hi,

Archeology's a bit of a hobby of mine, so I like to keep old copies of stuff.

I'm also maintaining City of Data, and thanks to Real Numbers it has a complete record of every power in the game.

Put two and two together... It's a lot harder for a stealth nerf to slip by unnoticed these days.

I just checked an archived copy of the Issue 20 launch day data. The initial four Lore trees all spawned their pets at -1. From Tier 1's single pet all the way to T4.

Feel free to not believe me, but as far as I'm concerned, crisis averted.

-CW
Was that both side of the trees?


 

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Warworks Radial Superior Ally:
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_Boss for 300s
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_Support_Protected for 300s
Grant Power to Self: Incarnate.Lore_Silent.Level_Shift

Warworks Core Superior Ally:
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_Boss_Buff for 300s
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_LT_Buff for 300s
Grant Power to Self: Incarnate.Lore_Silent.Level_Shift

This is from build 2000.201104060405.1, before Radial was changed to have a different duration and recharge.

Ranged_Levelminus is a modifier table normally used for Masterminds. It's set up to summon a pet one level lower than you if you are level 24 or above. At 50, it summons 49s.


 

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Originally Posted by Codewalker View Post
Yes:

Warworks Radial Superior Ally:
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_Boss for 300s
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_Support_Protected for 300s
Grant Power to Self: Incarnate.Lore_Silent.Level_Shift

Warworks Core Superior Ally:
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_Boss_Buff for 300s
Summon (1 Ranged_Levelminus) IncarnatePets_Lore_Warworks_LT_Buff for 300s
Grant Power to Self: Incarnate.Lore_Silent.Level_Shift

This is from build 2000.201104060405.1, before Radial was changed to have a different duration and recharge.

Ranged_Levelminus is a modifier table normally used for Masterminds. It's set up to summon a pet one level lower than you if you are level 24 or above. At 50, it summons 49s.
There can be only one possible explanation, then: The Devs NERFED THE PAST!!!


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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
There can be only one possible explanation, then: The Devs STEALTH NERFED THE PAST!!!
Fixt.


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Originally Posted by Codewalker View Post
I just checked an archived copy of the Issue 20 launch day data. The initial four Lore trees all spawned their pets at -1. From Tier 1's single pet all the way to T4.

Feel free to not believe me, but as far as I'm concerned, crisis averted.
Oh, I do believe you. So here's the answer: We all just misremembered.

Thank you!