incarnate liscence

How about they make incarnate trials avail to purchase and your incarnates ONLY work there. The solo incarnate and the full time use of the incarnates is a VIP only thing. That would be good so players could pay for that month and decide if it's worth it (it is)

There would still be: first ward, incarnate solo, the ability to use incarnate in all aspects of the game.

I'm all for having MORE people available for iTrials. Though I was debating picking up shop and moving my mains to Exalted.

That's a pretty short list for three times the price ($15/mo vs $5/mo), especially since First Ward isn't actually VIP-exclusive and so doesn't belong on the list.

if you're only counting the cost of incarnate then add, SSA, new power sets, IOs SG bases, etc

The OP (from what I understand) just wants the ability to pay to play the iTrials and for the IO enhancements for 10$. If anything he would be getting coned due to ONLY paying $5 less then a normal subscription, (assuming my idea applied) NOT getting solo incarnate missions, and ONLY able to use incarnate powers IN the iTrials, no first ward, no SSA, no bases, no chat options. also assuming you can buy a years subscription for $30 less, he's only saving himself $2.50 a month and loosing a lot of stuff. sounds like a CoH deal to me.

All the VIP perks including Incarnate access is apparently not enough to make subbing attractive to SchroedingerCat. All the VIP perks minus Incarnate access will be even less likely to attract subscriptions. If there were an Incarnate license, I'd drop to premium and get the license myself; I'm quite sure I could get the other features I use for $10/mo or less, since I already have everything from the rewards tree. But I also know that less subscriptions would be bad for the game.

By the way, minor nitpick, there is no AE license. There was one in beta but it never made it to live. Premiums can only gain access to AE through reward tokens.

Edit: And since the OP specifically mentioned he hoped for solo incarnate options, I don't think he'd agree with the trials-only suggestion. And if you're going to count discounts for buying a year at a time, you should also count discounts for buying points in bulk.

I'll grant you that, I know many people that would just take the incarnate and the IOs and nothing else. I was just looking for a middle ground. not NO incarnates, But not ALL of them either (maybe just LAMBDA/BAF). Like I said, The times I play the incarnate part of gaming is dead. but many players are on, I would like them to be able to be part of an iTrial should they choose to pay for it. But, they don't need solos because the concept is to give them a taste of the POWER ... MUA HAHAHAH. know what I mean.

I would love for this to be true, but as someone who also has a Premium account, I can say that yes, I have access to AE but I get no reward drops while running missions in it. Last I read about, think there were plans to make AE rewards only available for VIP (might be wrong though). I'm at T4 on my Preep account.

Are you full on Tier 4? It takes 8 Reward Tokens earned to be full Tier 4. The AE Reward drops only come if you have filled Tier 4, not if you have only opened it or have one or two tokens into Tier 4.

If you are have earned 8 Reward Tokens and are not getting AE Reward drops, you should file a bug report (possibly from a VIP account obviously since Premium's may not be able to use /bug) and possibly start a post in the Gameplay/Technical Issues & Bugs forum section (Premiums can post there as well), send a PM to Arbiter Warrant, and also file a support ticket about it labeling it as a bug. Take a screenshot of your Paragon Reward screen showing the number of Reward Tokens earned. You may also want to hover over the popup of the unlocks so that it shows that AE drops are supposed to be included. You can then attach that in a response to the support ticket. I'm not sure if Premiums can paste images in posts in the Bugs forums, but if not you can link to the image.

This shot was taken by my Premium account. Since it's only earned enough tokens to fill Tier 3, I can't test whether the AE rewards actually drop myself.



EDIT: After testing, I find that Premium accounts can use the /bug command although I know they don't get in-game support.

I merely mentioned solo incarnate as possibly a way to make incarnate access available to non-vip, but less lucrative or rewarding, as a way to nudge people even further along the spectrum towards full vip.

I am tier 7. I have access to everything I need to for free. I think I have to pay to be able to create invention origin enhancements, but that's about it. I don't get first ward, but that's ok. I did it in the one month of VIP I paid for, along with the SSA. I have access to chat, auction, grouping. I only have 2 character slots ever as a free player, so lots of new power sets don't really matter to me - I spent my 2 global unlocks on characters I enjoy immensely and don't have loads of time to play a bevy of baby supers anyway.

So, after you have sunk a certain amount of money into the game, there is very little motivation to spend more money until you get to level 50 and start messing with incarnate. But the price goes from $0 to $15 - with the reason for the full 15 being all the "extra stuff" you get as a VIP. Problem is after a short period of time, many players won't NEED those extra things, and basically will be paying $10 for incarnate access (I wash the $5 out of $15 as you get "free points"). Also, the "free things" you get don't necessarily fill out the level 50 game in any way as they apply primarily to new characters. New powers. new play area. low level play area.

If they made incarnate a monthly licence from the get go, they could further exploit incarnate endgame by selling "solo incarnate paths" or the like.

I am not looking at this as a "what's fair, what makes sense" point of view, more of a way for the game to continue to receive income while at the same time retaining players over a long period of time. It is difficult to justify $15 in the face of many new games coming out with reduced subscriptions or even no subscription at all, and I simply don't feel like VIP offers enough considering the "free feature unlock" system they use to reward us.

You just got done saying you are Tier 7. Assuming some of that comes from Pre-Freedom Veteran Rewards, if not most of it, then you have access to more than 2 character slots. Just FYI. Also, "X character slots ever" is wrong too - you can purchase slots.

EDIT: If you're knocking $5 off our monthly fee for getting "free" points, then my monthly subscription costs me a bit over five bucks a month.

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