MM and Degenerative Interface


Codewalker

 

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Does the degenerative interface work with pets or just the MM?
If yes, how many times can it stack from the pets and the MM?
Why is there no icon for degenerative, but for reactive their is an icon?


 

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1) Assuming it works like all other Interface slots, Both
2) 8(?) applications, which can come from any number of sources, so 8 form you, 8 form your pets, or 4 from you with 4 from your pets. Or 4 from you, 3 from your pets and 1 from some other dude. etc etc
3) Who knows?


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If you don't see the icon it may be because you don't have the power slotted an that could be why you are not seeing your pets use the degenerative proc


 

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all interfaces work with pets, IIRC only reactive shows on pets for some reason


 

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I actually dont see max hp drop at all when my pets attack...however when the mm attacks it drops using a 75% chance for -max hp.


 

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Originally Posted by Mega_Jamie View Post
1) Assuming it works like all other Interface slots, Both
2) 8(?) applications, which can come from any number of sources, so 8 form you, 8 form your pets, or 4 from you with 4 from your pets. Or 4 from you, 3 from your pets and 1 from some other dude. etc etc
3) Who knows?
The DoT stacks up to 8 times; the -MaxHP debuff stacks up to 4.

It *should* proc off pet attacks as well, if it doesn't then /bug it.


 

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Originally Posted by Codewalker View Post
The DoT stacks up to 8 times; the -MaxHP debuff stacks up to 4.

It *should* proc off pet attacks as well, if it doesn't then /bug it.
This.


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anyone know if the -maxhp portion is a % of hp or a set amount of hp. are the values the same for pve critters and pvp?


 

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Originally Posted by OneAboveAll View Post
anyone know if the -maxhp portion is a % of hp or a set amount of hp. are the values the same for pve critters and pvp?
It appears to be the same for PvE and PvP. If I'm reading this correctly, it's a set number of HP though.

That would make sense since certain forum gurus have said Degenerative outperforms Reactive on opponents with less than 600 HP.

Anyway, here's the link: http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...t.MaxHP_Debuff

If anyone is better at translating that into plain English than I am feel free to correct me.


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It's 2% of Base HP per stack.

How to figure that out? This is the power that you actually get when you slot it into your incarnate tree: Incarnate.Interface.Degenerative_Core_Flawless_Int erface

The first effect on the list grants you this power: Degenerative_Core_Flawless_Interface

Notice that the type is Global Boost. That means that it acts like an enhancement that's slotted into every single power you have that accepts damage enhancements (since it has a damage icon at the top of the page), and that your pets inherit it just like they do IO procs. The very rare version has a 75% chance to proc and grant this power to your target: Incarnate.Interface_Silent.MaxHP_Debuff

That power has two important things at the very bottom. Lifetime in-game: 8 means that it goes away after 8 seconds. Number allowed: 4 means that any entity is allowed to have 4 copies of that power. So effectively, it can stack 4 times.

When looking at that power, keep in mind that it's been granted to your enemy, and its target is Caster. So that means that both the source and the target are the one that it proc'd on. It's a Scale -0.2 Melee_HealSelf Max HP buff. However, since the power belongs to the bad guy, it will use their Melee_HealSelf table instead of your own.

What that doesn't tell you is that the Melee_HealSelf table for each AT is scaled to be a percentage of the base HP. Specifically, 10% of it.

Although CoD doesn't (yet) let you select an AT for powers that it doesn't know which set of options to offer, you can override it with a super-secret URL parameter:

http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...=Class_Blaster
http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...t=Class_Tanker
http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...s_Minion_Grunt

Compare that to the HP Chart at the wiki.


 

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And that's why I said somebody else should translate it


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