In this situation, I would prefer more defense for the mastermind in the Protector Bots six slot.
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Originally Posted by evertheskeptic
Right now I've got 5 of the Blood Mandate set slotted, and I was debating what to put in the 6th slot open. I was thinking of
-the final Blood Mandate (Accuracy) -Defense IO -Enzyme HO Which would be best? I'm /Traps, if that matters. BTW I've also got the def and res uniques in Assault Bot |
I just did the build for my Bots/ MM and I went with a Sovereign Right: Res Bonus(10%) in Protector Bots. I placed the Edict of the Master: Def Bonus(5%) in the Battle Drones. And for my *** Bot I used an Explosive Strike: Chance for... as my 6th slot choice.
I know its popular to slot Def into the Protector Bots, but my build caters more to the Resistance of Bots, not the Def. Your build however would benefit the most from more Def in anything. Also, I don't think you can use HOs in Bots/ anymore.
Looking at your question again, your really asking: Do I go for the Def bonuses from a 6-slotted Blood Mandate set, or do I go with a Def Training IO that boosts the Protectors' sheilds? I did the math on this and your better off going with a Def Training IO. This of course is looking purely at the +Def in your build and not considering other important factors.
Mids does allow me to slot HOs into pets, unless that's a bug. And yeah, it's basically the extra defense from the Blood Mandate set bonus vs extra defense from the IO/HO from the bot's shield
I'm not sure what you mean by other important factors. Here's my full build if you want to take a look
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Protector Bot bubbles are 7.5% defense base, so I'd definitely slot a level 50 defense IO in the sixth slot rather than the last Blood Mandate. Sure Blood Mandate will give you an extra 3.75% ranged defense, but a level 50 defense IO gives each bubble an extra 1.65% defense to all positions. An Enzyme HO is even better but does run the risk that the devs will some day fix the whole defense debuff HO in defense powers bug and render your very expensive HO useless.
My preferred slotting for Protectors is 2 Acc/Dam IOs, 2 Acc/Dam/End IOs, and 2 defense IOs if I'm on a budget, or 2 Enzymes, 2 Nucleolus, a damage IO (or third Nucleolus if I'm hunting +4s), and a pet unique, proc, or nothing in the 6th slot if I'm willing to spend more. Protectors really need decent accuracy, some endurance, ED capped damage, and good defense slotting so I find HOs or frankenslotting worth losing out on set bonuses.
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They did fix the Enzyme. It was mentioned by Dechs in his build thread a while back its still within a few pages or just search for Dechs posts or look for my posts and I think I might have linked to that thread. That is why he went with just regular defense inventions on his protector bots. You could use IOs that do the reverse EG -Def debuffs, but again your in the same boat of them one day getting nerfed like Enyzmes or you can buy a 33% defense IO but it will cost about 150 million each, you will need at least 2. Otherwise 2 Defense inventions will suit you much better for a fraction of the cost.
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Originally Posted by StrykerX
Protector Bot bubbles are 7.5% defense base, so I'd definitely slot a level 50 defense IO in the sixth slot rather than the last Blood Mandate. Sure Blood Mandate will give you an extra 3.75% ranged defense, but a level 50 defense IO gives each bubble an extra 1.65% defense to all positions. An Enzyme HO is even better but does run the risk that the devs will some day fix the whole defense debuff HO in defense powers bug and render your very expensive HO useless.
My preferred slotting for Protectors is 2 Acc/Dam IOs, 2 Acc/Dam/End IOs, and 2 defense IOs if I'm on a budget, or 2 Enzymes, 2 Nucleolus, a damage IO (or third Nucleolus if I'm hunting +4s), and a pet unique, proc, or nothing in the 6th slot if I'm willing to spend more. Protectors really need decent accuracy, some endurance, ED capped damage, and good defense slotting so I find HOs or frankenslotting worth losing out on set bonuses. |
1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives
@ the OP
Gonna be straight and to the point so as not to waste your time.
Your not defense capped and you can be.
Robot Traps has 2 builds one the player is capped without pets and the other the player is capped with the aid of the pets. There are advantages to both.
I like being capped without the pets. Sometimes in crazy missions or Task Forces / Strike Forces the PET AI is not beneficial to the team. So being able to run around for a bit without the pets and being capped to me is helpful. Others will say summon protector bot and get the 4 minute bubble and dismiss. Again that is doable, but not for me. I have summoned pets numerous times just to have them destroyed upon appearing. The delay of the bubble is annoying, especially when I am the last person to be bubbled. But again its a personal preference.
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Read this short thread as it might make some sense and clear up some ideas on why Robot Traps ( Tankermind ) approach is so appealing.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=278286
1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives
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I'm pretty sure you meant Lysosomes. Lysosomes don't work for the ProBot shields, but Enzymes will because the shields are designed to accept End Redux, but not Accuracy.
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Originally Posted by plainguy
They did fix the Enzyme. It was mentioned by Dechs in his build thread a while back its still within a few pages or just search for Dechs posts or look for my posts and I think I might have linked to that thread. That is why he went with just regular defense inventions on his protector bots. You could use IOs that do the reverse EG -Def debuffs, but again your in the same boat of them one day getting nerfed like Enyzmes or you can buy a 33% defense IO but it will cost about 150 million each, you will need at least 2. Otherwise 2 Defense inventions will suit you much better for a fraction of the cost.
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Right now I've got 5 of the Blood Mandate set slotted, and I was debating what to put in the 6th slot open. I was thinking of
-the final Blood Mandate (Accuracy)
-Defense IO
-Enzyme HO
Which would be best? I'm /Traps, if that matters. BTW I've also got the def and res uniques in Assault Bot