For pure power I suppose Mu is probably going to win. It also has Electric Shackles which will give you another attack (slot it for damage!).
If you join in on Hami Raids, LGTFs, Id suggest the hold over the pet. At the very least, the hold can be 1 slotted for ACC and still be worthwhile. If you have slots to spare, then it can be made better or add more set bonuses (Basilisk's Gaze for an additional 7.5% +RCH)
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Do this, but with Char. That solves your problem. You aren't wasting a power and you get to keep better damage from Fire attacks.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
If you join in on Hami Raids, LGTFs, Id suggest the hold over the pet. At the very least, the hold can be 1 slotted for ACC and still be worthwhile. If you have slots to spare, then it can be made better or add more set bonuses (Basilisk's Gaze for an additional 7.5% +RCH)
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@Rorn ---- Blue Baron ---- Guardian
Ball Lightning does more damage than Fire Ball. Mid's numbers are wrong. However, Fire Ball seems to crit more often.
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
Hmmm still a hard choice
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Red Pendragon-FM/SD Scrapper 50+3
Softcapped 45% defence, 247 DPS no pets, 447 DPS with pets
When people used to take Patron Pets (before GR) the Mu pet for Doms (and now trollers) was widely regarded as the best since it healed you too.
I took it on my dom at the time and found it quite useless, low damage, low heal (and it was before the dom buffs, before I had permadom and purple sets so my dom was in need of extra damage when out of domination, even then I found it wasn't good), iirc the stalker/scrapper version is the same one but without the heal.
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Yes, but in practice more of the damage from Fire Ball is effective.|
Originally Posted by _Pine_
Ball Lightning does more damage than Fire Ball. Mid's numbers are wrong. However, Fire Ball seems to crit more often.
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Fire Ball delivers most of the damage up front, with some coming in DoT.
Ball Lightning delivers some of the damage up front, with most coming in DoT.
Therefore, many mobs will be dead before Ball Lightning delivers it's full damage if you have a high kill speed.
@Rorn ---- Blue Baron ---- Guardian
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IIRC, the Mu pet only has 2 attacks that deal damage. Then it has a disorient, a sleep, and EMPulse (for some reason).|
Originally Posted by Kioshi
When people used to take Patron Pets (before GR) the Mu pet for Doms (and now trollers) was widely regarded as the best since it healed you too.
I took it on my dom at the time and found it quite useless, low damage, low heal (and it was before the dom buffs, before I had permadom and purple sets so my dom was in need of extra damage when out of domination, even then I found it wasn't good), iirc the stalker/scrapper version is the same one but without the heal. |
IMO, the best patron pet for Scrappers is the Coral Warder from Leviathan Mastery. Actually has some decent controls and debuffs attached to some of the attacks, which aren't all that bad on their own. YMMV.
@Rorn ---- Blue Baron ---- Guardian
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Haven't seem much talk about patron pets after I came back but now I remember that when they were more popular, there was quite a few Stalker players who liked the Spiderlings because there are 3 of them.|
Originally Posted by Vauluur
IIRC, the Mu pet only has 2 attacks that deal damage. Then it has a disorient, a sleep, and EMPulse (for some reason).
IMO, the best patron pet for Scrappers is the Coral Warder from Leviathan Mastery. Actually has some decent controls and debuffs attached to some of the attacks, which aren't all that bad on their own. YMMV. |
Looking at CoD, the Coral pet has a good number of attacks, it's a pity they all have a 900 sec base rech.
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With the amount of recharge I'm usually building for though, it gets a lot more reasonable. Not saying it wouldn't be nice to see it lowered, but it's not as bad as it used to be.
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Originally Posted by Kioshi
Haven't seem much talk about patron pets after I came back but now I remember that when they were more popular, there was quite a few Stalker players who liked the Spiderlings because there are 3 of them.
Looking at CoD, the Coral pet has a good number of attacks, it's a pity they all have a 900 sec base rech. |
@Rorn ---- Blue Baron ---- Guardian
Yo dude, this is something i've looked into as well especially when i had end issues and fire was burning blue bar!
Mu's damage is ok but i don't rate it, i also have unslotted char but it's a worthwhile price to pay for fireball imo.
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Effy Unleashed DP/EN Blaster 1st 50 @ Union
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Lvl 50 Gen ACC IO or ACC/MEZ HO or an ACC/RCH from a set the hold takes, is all that Char needs!|
Originally Posted by Effy_On_Malibu
Yo dude, this is something i've looked into as well especially when i had end issues and fire was burning blue bar!
Mu's damage is ok but i don't rate it, i also have unslotted char but it's a worthwhile price to pay for fireball imo. |
For most scrappers, a hold just isnt needed. But it's good for the few things in game where stacking holds is needed (LGTF, Hami Raid), so good to have a bit of added ACC in it.
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Agree, after running a Lady Grey where no one had a hold I try to take them on every toon I can. |
Originally Posted by BrandX
Lvl 50 Gen ACC IO or ACC/MEZ HO or an ACC/RCH from a set the hold takes, is all that Char needs!
For most scrappers, a hold just isnt needed. But it's good for the few things in game where stacking holds is needed (LGTF, Hami Raid), so good to have a bit of added ACC in it. |
I don't use it much solo but it is great for holding sappers or DE guardians (so they can't put their +to hit pet out). I also thow it at AVs and GMs when on teams to help out the support types trying to hold them, doesn't always work but there are quite a few you can hold for a bit if you stack enough.
Also makes a nice way to stop runners. Most holds have 80ft range.
I have a good fm/sd scrapper at the moment and im gona respec him soon. I currently have blaze mastery but i was thinking what waste of a power ring of fire is to take so i can get Fire Ball and Fire Blast.
So I looked at Mu Mastery taking Mu Bolts and Ball Lighting and use that free power for maybe Summon Adept. This give me -Foe End, chance for End recovery and a Pet if im in trouble but I lose damage overall compared to Blaze Mastery.
Just looking for thoughts
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Red Pendragon-FM/SD Scrapper 50+3
Softcapped 45% defence, 247 DPS no pets, 447 DPS with pets