Short version: Regen is a good set for scrappers even better on brutes thanks to more HP. Unfortunately willpower does everything regen does and it does it better. Doubly true if redraw comes into the picture.
Long version: Look in the scrapper forum for the thread on help with top-end kat/regen. And track down Arcannaville's posts about buffing regen vs -regen debuffs and replacing the IH effect with a heal over time.
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"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
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Except regen and willpower are nothing alike.
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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
Short version: Regen is a good set for scrappers even better on brutes thanks to more HP. Unfortunately willpower does everything regen does and it does it better.
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They don't play anything alike, but you can't really argue that willpower does almost as well at buffing regeneration as regen does. Willpower is automatic, Regen requires skill. A skilled Regen player will probably outlive a Willpower player. However, Regen is a set that you have to be skilled with to play it. If you aren't a skilled Regen, you're a dead Regen 9 times out of 10.
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Originally Posted by ultrawatt
Except regen and willpower are nothing alike.
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they are actually very very much alike. They are not defense sets, they are not resist sets. both function via replenishing hit points directly not by preventing damage.|
Originally Posted by ultrawatt
Except regen and willpower are nothing alike.
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In the same way that fire and elec are alike so too are regen and will power.
If they were the same there would be no reason for them to exist. Will power is pasive, regen is active and valuur gives a great breakdown of how that impacts experience.
But the point is that if you want a secondary that lets you recover hp and endurance fast, you have two options: regen and will. and will will do a better job of it. regen, you may or may not find more fun.
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say Regen requires a lot of 'skill', but then that term is always loosely defined anyway. For me, Regen basically boils down to: Hit Dull Pain. Not enough? Hit something else.
Willpower is good, I probably like it more then Regen, but I also feel kind of... helpless, if things aren't going my way. Aside from inspirations and maybe Strength of Will, there isn't a lot you can do to remedy a situation with Will Power aside from running away and trying again. Regen, on the other hand, feels like it always has one extra 'god-mode' I can turn on.
Regen is a tricky set. As many others have told me, you kinda have to anticipate the damage in order to get your heal activated in time (Honestly, for a set that *requires* being able to use your heal effectively, I would think they'd make the case time 0 secs).
And because you're a Brute, you'll be expected to take more punishment. As such, I recommend a primary set that helps mitigate the amount of damage you take... like Super Strength or Stone Melee.
Defense... has limited use when it comes to regen (unless you're going with Katana, which gives a good amount of melee def). The reason being that it's extremely difficult getting good amounts of defense in order to make any real difference. All efforts are best spent on recharge, where you can have your heals come back faster.
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Regen requiring skill comes down to knowing to anticipate incomming damage. Sometimes you use dull pain for the big heal. Sometimes you need it before diving into the spawn so you have the extra hitpoints to survive dual crits from a Cim boss. Sometimes you use IH and sometimes you look at the big room just past your current spawn and realize that if you use it now, it will drop half way through that room, so save it. Sometimes you just mog and dive into the middle of a spawn. Sometimes the spawn is spread out and has very wimpy ranged attacks so you hit dull pain for a HP boost and rush one dude on the side, then pop MOG right before his buddies surround you.|
Originally Posted by Warkupo
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say Regen requires a lot of 'skill', but then that term is always loosely defined anyway. For me, Regen basically boils down to: Hit Dull Pain. Not enough? Hit something else.
Willpower is good, I probably like it more then Regen, but I also feel kind of... helpless, if things aren't going my way. Aside from inspirations and maybe Strength of Will, there isn't a lot you can do to remedy a situation with Will Power aside from running away and trying again. Regen, on the other hand, feels like it always has one extra 'god-mode' I can turn on. |
The two most common ways people die with regens is that they use every click too fast. Or they die and have a bunch they didn't use but should have. Finding that balance in-between is a lot harder than any other secondary I've played. It really, really rewards getting hours on your character and knowing what you can and can't survive with each combination of powers. And knowing which enemies deal the spike damage and how it impacts you.
WP, is literally toggle up and go kill. regen will never be that. Even the build I have which is about as close as you can get to that.
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
Ive spoken to a number of people and althought the story varies from experience with people, i really want to know a bit more about regen, its survivability, its god mode power or tier 9 power, can defense be built into it, can i overcome alot of enemies as a brute?
the higher hp cap means a good thing with regen, but is regen worth the namesake for me?
i mean would any of you have regen as your namesake, i wjust want to get to the bottom of this and see if its a good set or a poor performance set.
thanks.