ATI Radeon HD 4200

Does anybody have experience with this card and City of X? Will it run Ultra, and does it perform well?

It will run the individual features, yes, but it won't run them well. You really should look into something in at least the 5600+ group.

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If you are talking about the integrated graphics on the AMD 785G desktop chipset, found in some store bought PCs like HP, it's surprisingly okay as long as you don't over do it graphic settings wise.

My folks have one in their HP quad core and it can run the game (no ultra mode, shadows as blobs) at 1k x 768 in a window with 0xAA, 4xAF at around 25fps blueside, faster inside indoor missions. That's with the graphics settings slider in the middle with DoF and bloom turned off and textures settings at max.

You can get UM reflections to work with a minor hit in frame rate but hard shadows, AO shadows or AA will kill performance totally.

I assume the laptop version is similar.

4200 will play CoH with minimal settings and I am not talking about ultra mode.

The Llano based chip with the 6550 will be somewhere in the range of a 5670. Meaning, it will be good for normal mode but downright awful on Ultra mode. It can "run" ultra mode with very minimal settings but settings at levels where I would just downgrade to maxed out normal mode and be happy.

AA is anti aliasing, removing the jaggies on edges. Depending on the speed and bandwidth of the memory on the video card, the impact can be minor to extreme.

AO is ambient occlusion. It's soft shadowing caused when one object starts to block the ambient light from striking another object causing the blocked object to darken. The way this is done on a video card is very intensive compute wise, even at the lower settings.

Edit: Ultramode adds three additional graphics effects to the game. Reflections, primarily off of water but also some costume pieces and windows. Hard shadows, the kind cast from direct sunlight outside. And lastly Ambient Occlusion, which is a soft shadow or darkening caused by an object blocking a significant amount of the ambient light in the area, such as when one object is close to another.

Of the three, Ambient Occlusion is the most subtle of the three effects.

Well I am currently running on a older Compaq Presario SR5223WM with the integrated nVidia GeForce 6150SE. I upgraded to 4GB (though only getting 3GB due to the 32-bit thing) and while my settings are low they are ok and I get fair performance most of the time. I even run multiple instances (2 or 3) in this setup.

I am thinking about getting a new PC and getting something basic and upgrading and looking at a machine that comes with the integrated ATI Radeon HD 4200. Will I see a big difference in what I have been using. I can always put a card in the PCI express x16 slot when I save up a little more, but will the integrated run me ok for the time being??

You'll see a huge difference between the HD4200 and the 6150SE. The 6150SE is like six generations old and the bottom of the barrel for non-Intel graphics cards, integrated or not. The HD4200 is only two generations old, and while on the low end, blows the 6150SE totally out of the water.

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Thanks for that. The problem with getting a HP off the shelf at walmart is that while I COULD put a upgraded card in the pci express x16 slot eventually, I will most likely also have to upgrade the power supply at that point too.

I have a laptop from work that runs a Phenom II N620 with a Radeon HD 4250 mobility chip in it. Though I haven't tried it in PvP, I have run it in Paragon City, The Rogue Isles, and Praetoria and am pleasantly surprised that the game runs better on this machine than the Core 2 Duo with a GeForce 9600Gt chip at home. Praetoria does tend to give it fits sometimes on framerate, but the other two realms work out pretty well. Some of the higher end features are turned on, but I don't go Ultra Mode on it really...