SS/FA Needs Advice
Are you looking to farm AE or normal content?
50's - Controllers- Ill/Emp | Ill/Storm | Fire/Kin | Dark/Dark | Brutes- SS/Fire | Fire/WP | Scrappers - Spines/Fire | Kat/Regen | Elec/Shield | DM/Shield | Dominators- Plant/Psi | Tankers- Inv/Fire | Ice/NRG | Crab Spider | Warshade |
AE
Not only are there a million posts on this, but there is one still on the first page with a bunch of builds in it.
Forgot to ask, is this to level other toons or for influence?
50's - Controllers- Ill/Emp | Ill/Storm | Fire/Kin | Dark/Dark | Brutes- SS/Fire | Fire/WP | Scrappers - Spines/Fire | Kat/Regen | Elec/Shield | DM/Shield | Dominators- Plant/Psi | Tankers- Inv/Fire | Ice/NRG | Crab Spider | Warshade |
Leveling other toons primarily, but influence is nice
Okay... Where to start then...
You want to build for Fire Defense not S/L... You will want to fight fire enemies because that's where you have the best resistance. You can also drop Fighting if you are strictly AE.
Hasten needs more slots. The more it's up, the more your other powers(AoE's) are.
Fire Ball... Give it some love, it is one of your 3 AoE attacks. 5 Posi's will do.
You don't need that many slots in CJ, or any of your other defense powers. I usually three slot them at most.
Change Rage's slotting to 5 Adjusted Targeting's.
Slot the FF +recharge proc in footstomp instead of acc/rec. It fires a lot when you're surrounded by enemies.
You're not getting much out of a 5th Kinetic Combat... In fact if it is all AE farming for this guy I would switch out most of them for the taunt set.
Blazing Aura could use end redux. Oblit's are terrible for it and it will catch up to you if you don't have any end redux in it.
Health and Stamina could both drop slots. Mine are both 2 slotted with Numina/Miracle proc and 2 Perf Shifter's. End Mod and +end. Start there and let me see what you come up with.
50's - Controllers- Ill/Emp | Ill/Storm | Fire/Kin | Dark/Dark | Brutes- SS/Fire | Fire/WP | Scrappers - Spines/Fire | Kat/Regen | Elec/Shield | DM/Shield | Dominators- Plant/Psi | Tankers- Inv/Fire | Ice/NRG | Crab Spider | Warshade |
Also Healing Flames is not slotted well. Heals in there....
50's - Controllers- Ill/Emp | Ill/Storm | Fire/Kin | Dark/Dark | Brutes- SS/Fire | Fire/WP | Scrappers - Spines/Fire | Kat/Regen | Elec/Shield | DM/Shield | Dominators- Plant/Psi | Tankers- Inv/Fire | Ice/NRG | Crab Spider | Warshade |
Here is the build 2.0, taking in the advice you gave me. The only thing I did not do was get rid of fighting, as Weave helps with the fire defense. I don't know how to get that any higher any other way.
Also will this build be able to handle +4/x8 maps? Do I need to get some incarnate abilities for him or will he be good without any for fire farming? And lastly, will this build be good for the Demon Farm map or not? Again thanks for all the help.
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Asgrim Solveig: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Jab -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(3), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(3), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(5), Mocking-Rchg(9)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RctvArm-ResDam(34)
Level 2: Punch -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(5), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(7), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(7), Mocking-Rchg(9)
Level 4: Blazing Aura -- Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(13), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(15), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Sciroc-Dam%(17), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 6: Haymaker -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(17), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(19), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(19), Mocking-Rchg(36)
Level 8: Healing Flames -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Numna-Heal/Rchg(37), Mrcl-Rcvry+(39), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(39), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 10: Knockout Blow -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(21), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(21), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(23), Mocking-Rchg(23)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 14: Temperature Protection -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 20: Rage -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-Rchg(34)
Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 28: Burn -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Oblit-Dmg(A), FrcFbk-Rechg%(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Char -- HO:Endo(A), HO:Membr(46)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(37), Heal-I(43)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(43), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(45)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Both of the builds are awful
"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal
@Caucasiafro
If this guy (^^) Says a ss/fire build is awful you had BETTER listen. I'd go w/ doing a search on the forums for his name, find his ss/fire build and be the happiest farmer you can be. I am.
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MOST amazing Brute engineer goes to: Ultrawatt. His SS/Fire farm build is SMASH!
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Thanks guys for the advice. I appreciate you taking the time to offer your comments. However I would be grateful if I could get a little better guidance than "both builds are awful." Energy Blaze offered great guidance that made sense to me, so thanks Energy Blaze for that help.
I know there are several SS/FA builds listed for farming already. I have overlooked some of them, not all, but a few. As far as I can tell my build seems fairly in line with the ones I have seen. As far as Ultrawatt's SS/FA build, it seems that I cannot find the build he uses, if it is posted please point me to the post.
Again, thank you for your time.
Thanks guys for the advice. I appreciate you taking the time to offer your comments. However I would be grateful if I could get a little better guidance than "both builds are awful." Energy Blaze offered great guidance that made sense to me, so thanks Energy Blaze for that help.
I know there are several SS/FA builds listed for farming already. I have overlooked some of them, not all, but a few. As far as I can tell my build seems fairly in line with the ones I have seen. As far as Ultrawatt's SS/FA build, it seems that I cannot find the build he uses, if it is posted please point me to the post. Again, thank you for your time. |
And used a 5 slot bonus in reactive armor? (Or even used reactive armor at all)
6 slotted healing flames and only achieved 50% healing bonus?
6 slotted weave with lotg of all sets?
Put a membrane exposure??????? in char, thus neatly avoiding the opportunity 4 piece basilisks bonuses?
Took two travel powers as opposed to more lotg recharges (you did say farming, right?)
Three slotting health with regular IO's and not even getting a set bonus out of it.
Sorry if this comes across as harsh, but it's not that hard to find the info you are looking for given how much the topic is posted. You have some weird mangled pve and farming build that's awful at both right now.
Here are several builds I found doing a search for ss/fa farming brute. I didn't go through the some 100 odd pages of SS/FA material. Each of the builds are different in some way, and none of them seem to meet all the requirements that you specify. Again I ask, if there is one build that is the SUPREME build then please point me to it. I admit, I have zero clue on how to make a good to great fire farmer which is why I asked for help. Instead I just get insulted. My fault really, that is what I should have expected. Only one person actually offered useful information.
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I lol'd at this build
[Union Chat]Sebaddon: If you want to, we will, if you think it's weird, no, that's damz, not us.
[Union Chat]Damz: hey cyber, i am your naked pope for the evening, please confess to me my child
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=274632
This is the thread I was referring to with my first post in the thread.
There are builds that are good enough for farming in there. If you want to make a good build yourself you have to look at each slot and think what you can gain or lose from changing something. Iterate this until you have a build where you don't think you can make a change for the better.
This requires you to set goals. As a fire farmer your goals are 90% fire resist, recharge, some fire defense and as many aoe attacks as possible. Smashing lethal, as Energy even told you, is not what you should be aiming for, but you did not really avoid it.
Fire farms do NO smashing lethal damage. They do NO energy negative damage. Defense in these two areas is 100% wasted. Slot accordingly. Take a look at 3 piece Aegis for your armor sets. Save you some slots and then you can put a higher recharge set in burn to maximize the amount you can cast it.
Drop another slot from combat jumping. Drop at least 3 slots from Weave. 2 slot health with numina and miracle procs. Drop jab. Move powers down accordingly until you can place consume. Maximize what you want to do. AOE damage is king. If you are willing (this is almost non-optional as a brute in my mind) go villain and unlock the patron powers. Take MU and you gain another AOE.
Drop rise of the phoenix. You don't need it for fire farming, unless you want to slot stupefy in it. I'd prefer a 1 slot wonder like the Concealment pool to cram 7.5 lotg recharges in.
Fire resist. Fire Defense. Recharge. Chase those.
Thank you, I found that extremely helpful. I will do as you had advised.
So I decided that I want to become a farmer, and after much research found that the general opinion is that the SS/FA Brute is the top notch for farming. So I came up with this build and just want advice on how to improve it or if the build would work fine for farming. Thanks in advance.
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Asgrim Solveig: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), KntkC'bat-Knock%(9)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RctvArm-ResDam(34)
Level 2: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Knock%(9)
Level 4: Blazing Aura -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(17), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 6: Haymaker -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(17), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19)
Level 8: Healing Flames -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(48), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(50), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(50)
Level 10: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), KntkC'bat-Knock%(23)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 14: Temperature Protection -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 18: Hasten -- HO:Membr(A)
Level 20: Rage -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(31), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(31), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(34), GSFC-Build%(36)
Level 22: Kick -- HO:Perox(A)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(36), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(37), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), LkGmblr-Def(39)
Level 28: Burn -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Char -- HO:Endo(A), HO:Membr(46)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(37), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(43), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(45), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(45), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run