A SR Scrapper's Quest to the Soft Cap


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I had always hated scrappers. I thought they were ridiculously over-powered. My first toon was, of course, a blaster. I reached a point with my AR/DEV blaster where it had become nearly impossible to solo and go quickly through missions. I had to be exacting with my tactics and everything had to be calculated closely. It became tiresome and tedious, and the disappointment was earth-shattering when my toon, Mr. Clarke, ended up face down after planning a fight for 5 minutes.

So, after playing a blaster for over a year, I rolled a MA/SR scrapper. He sucked so much end, I was sure he had Asthma as an inherent power. I rolled this toon a few years ago, so I actually had to select Hurdle, Health, and Stamina. After 6 slotting Stamina with SO's, he seemed less Asthmatic and more super.

The combat mechanics and powers changed several times through the years. SR used to be Epic. Several years ago during the CoH Olympics, a SR scrapper on Champion won the "Tank Mother Mayhem" event, surviving over 3 minutes. Obviously, scrappers were over-powered and that all changed.

Fast-forward to the present. I hit level 50 with Kane Black, my MA/SR toon, about a month ago. Kane breezes through some fights, others he is defeated almost immediately. I spent a ton of jack on Red Fortune enhancements for FF, FS, and Evasion, but I was still well under the 45% soft cap for FF and Evasion. Grrrrr...

I re-specced and took Combat Jumping (unslotted), and Weave (4 slotted) from the fighting pool. I put a single IO 50 Def Enhancement in CJ and 3 IO Def 50's in Weave... Way over the soft cap for FS, but not quite there for FF or Evasion... Grrrr...

Re-Spec... From the Epic Pool I took Body Mastery and was sure to take PP and drop 2 slots in it (one Healing IO 50 and one Endurance Mod IO 50), which stacked with Health (3 Healing IO 50's), and Stamina (3 End Mod IO 50's). With this build Kane Black's Asthma is quite manageable, but back to Defenses and the soft cap...

... This time around I built Kane with 4 slots in Thunder Kick and Storm Kick and I used Kinetic Combat sets in them to receive the Melee Defense bonuses totaling 3.75. I used the Red Fortune set in Evasion (6-slotted), and Luck of the Gambler in Weave (6-slotted). FF and FS both use Serendipity (6-slotted). Agile, Dodge, Lucky, and Combat Jumping all have 3 IO Defense 50's.

Cobra Strike (4-slotted) and Crane Kick (6-slotted) both use Crushing Impact sets. Eagle's Claw (6-slotted) uses Mako's Bite. Tough (6-slotted) had been using Titanium Coating set, but because I am @ ~48% Melee Defense and ~44% AoE Defense, I am going to replace the Titanium Coating set with Reactive Armor, which should bring my Melee Def down to ~45% and my AoE Defense up to ~45%: SOFT CAP ACHIEVED!!!!!!

I have spent ~1.2B influence and ~200 Merit Points @ level 50 on IO Sets. The journey has been long, expensive, and, at times, arduous, but Kane Black's survivability borders ridiculous. I use Conserve Power and a few luck and breather inspirations as a net to catch me when Elude crashes. I had been carrying Recovery Serum as a temp power to use for long fights that did not require Elude, but I recently unlocked my Alpha Slot and chose Cardiac as my initial Incarnate Ability. Stamina is no longer an issue.

Exact numbers to follow as soon as I finish slotting Reactive Armor.


 

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*Camera focuses to reveal Morpheus's face* "Welcome to the *real* world..."

Seriousely, grats on your soft-cap, persistance, and build skills!


Miss Arc #147491: Rise of Bedlam
AKA Iron Smoke @Champion Server

 

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Gratz man, a well built scrapper is a thing of beauty. Enjoy it!


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I almost hate to say it, but you can softcap SR with generic IOs, or even SOs.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Quickly nipping in with a few tips:

Reactive Armor, if I recall, is great for typed defence sets. As you're using a Super Reflexes scrapper, which uses positional defence... it's not that good, as the bonus is tiny.

Sets to boost Melee:
Touch of Death (6 set bonus 3.75%, single target melee)
Obliteration (6 set bonus 3.75%, PBAoE)

Sets to boost Range:
Mako's Bite (6 set bonus 3.75%, single target melee)
Thunderstrike (2 set bonus 1.25%, 6 set bonus 2.5%, ranged attack)
Red Fortune (6 set bonus 2.5%, defence)

Sets to boost AoE:
Scirocco's Dervish (5 set bonus 3.13%, PBAoE)

Sets to boost multiple:
Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control (6 set bonus 2.5% melee/range/AoE, ToHit)
Blessing of the Zephyr (2 set bonus 1.25% range, 3 set bonus 1.88% defence AoE, Travel)

If you have enough ranged defence, strip out red fortunes and replace with four parts Luck of the Gambler including the 7.5% recharge one. :3 As Super Reflexes is a little endurance heavy, I make it a point not to take too many toggles from other power pools if I can. So while I pick up Tough to put in a Steadfast Protection 3% def, I don't pick up Weave, and make do by increasing bonuses where I can.


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imho, it sounds like you've overslotted your secondary and underslotted your primary. here's a basic outline of a softcapped ma/sr. i left the red fortunes since you already have them, one could just as easily 6 slot an attack with mako's bite. obviously, disregard the level powers were taken at, this is only meant to demonstrate an easy way to softcap /SR. There are lots of ways to achieve this, this is just one example.
edit to add: with patient bidding, you should be able to buy everything in this example for less than 4 pieces of kinetic combats.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
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Level 49 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(13), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(13), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(15), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(3), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(3), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), RedFtn-Def(21), RedFtn-EndRdx(27)
Level 2: Focused Senses -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(5), EndRdx-I(5)
Level 4: Agile -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(7)
Level 6: Focus Chi -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(7), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(11), GSFC-Build%(11)
Level 8: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 14: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 16: Dodge -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(17)
Level 18: Weave -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(19), EndRdx-I(19)
Level 20: Quickness -- Empty(A)
Level 22: [Empty]
Level 24: [Empty]
Level 26: [Empty]
Level 28: Lucky -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(29)
Level 30: [Empty]
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: Evasion -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(39), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Dragon's Tail -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(42), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run


 

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Reading about slotting Reactive Armors and Kinetic Combats for positional bonuses makes me a sad panda. That said you have clearly embarked on a journey of discovery and obviously have learned a lot, so keep going!


 

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Originally Posted by Emberly View Post
Reading about slotting Reactive Armors and Kinetic Combats for positional bonuses makes me a sad panda. That said you have clearly embarked on a journey of discovery and obviously have learned a lot, so keep going!
And can make some decent money selling the sets or can gear alts if all else fails!


 

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[grumbles]No wonder I can't buy any Kinetic Combats for my typed defense characters -- they're over here on the positional defense characters for some reason.[/grumbles]


If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
I almost hate to say it, but you can softcap SR with generic IOs, or even SOs.
????

Even with Enhancement Diversification? I don't think that is possible.


 

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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
[grumbles]No wonder I can't buy any Kinetic Combats for my typed defense characters -- they're over here on the positional defense characters for some reason.[/grumbles]
I'm not the reason they're so ridiculously expensive, but they were among the most expensive enhancements I purchased.


 

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Originally Posted by clarke_VII View Post
????

Even with Enhancement Diversification? I don't think that is possible.
It requires pool powers, which he was using anyway, and it's not the most practical way, but it is possible.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by EJI View Post
imho, it sounds like you've overslotted your secondary and underslotted your primary. here's a basic outline of a softcapped ma/sr. i left the red fortunes since you already have them, one could just as easily 6 slot an attack with mako's bite. obviously, disregard the level powers were taken at, this is only meant to demonstrate an easy way to softcap /SR. There are lots of ways to achieve this, this is just one example.
edit to add: with patient bidding, you should be able to buy everything in this example for less than 4 pieces of kinetic combats.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
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Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 49 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(13), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(13), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(15), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(3), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(3), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), RedFtn-Def(21), RedFtn-EndRdx(27)
Level 2: Focused Senses -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(5), EndRdx-I(5)
Level 4: Agile -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(7)
Level 6: Focus Chi -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(7), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(11), GSFC-Build%(11)
Level 8: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 14: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 16: Dodge -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(17)
Level 18: Weave -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(19), EndRdx-I(19)
Level 20: Quickness -- Empty(A)
Level 22: [Empty]
Level 24: [Empty]
Level 26: [Empty]
Level 28: Lucky -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(29)
Level 30: [Empty]
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: Evasion -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(39), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Dragon's Tail -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(42), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
PB should have 2 recharge reductions in it so it is Perma. If a SR scrapper's toggles get knocked off, he goes down quick. I have Gaussian's Synchronized fire control on my Focus Chi (6-Slotted).


 

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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
It is.
I disagree.


 

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Originally Posted by clarke_VII View Post
I disagree.
Mids' is on my side. Also, I added details to my previous post.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
It requires pool powers, which he was using anyway, and it's not the most practical way, but it is possible.
Well, I'll tell you what, slick. You post your brilliant build vs mine and show all bonuses for resistances, accuracy, damage, so on and so forth, while hitting the soft cap and we'll see whose is superior.


 

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It is possible to soft cap with minimal to no IO set bonuses. It's even possible on only SO's but it's, imo, not worth the effort on only SO's unless you specifically looking for the challenge.

Here's one potential Claws/SR build on only common IO's. Can soft cap the build by either adding a Steadfast resist/+3% defense IO or by grabbing the Nerve Core Paragon boost (needs toggling on in the build).

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Soft Cap sans Sets (v1.00.i19 Nerve Core Paragon) : Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Strike -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(3), EndRdx-I(3), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(34), Dmg-I(39)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(11), DefBuff-I(13), DefBuff-I(33)
Level 2: Focused Senses -- EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(13), DefBuff-I(34), DefBuff-I(34)
Level 4: Slash -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(5), EndRdx-I(5), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(29), Dmg-I(48)
Level 6: Spin -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(7), EndRdx-I(7), Dmg-I(17), Dmg-I(21), Dmg-I(21)
Level 8: Follow Up -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(9), EndRdx-I(9), Dmg-I(31), Dmg-I(31), Dmg-I(40)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 14: Agile -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(39)
Level 16: Dodge -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(39)
Level 18: Focus -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(19), EndRdx-I(19), Dmg-I(23), Dmg-I(29), Dmg-I(50)
Level 20: Quickness -- Run-I(A)
Level 22: Tough -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(23), ResDam-I(42), ResDam-I(43)
Level 24: Weave -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42), DefBuff-I(42), DefBuff-I(43)
Level 26: Eviscerate -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(27), EndRdx-I(27), Dmg-I(31), Dmg-I(40), Dmg-I(50)
Level 28: Lucky -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(40)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(33), DefBuff-I(43), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 32: Shockwave -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(33), EndRdx-I(37), Dmg-I(37), Dmg-I(37), Dmg-I(48)
Level 35: Evasion -- EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(36), DefBuff-I(36), DefBuff-I(36)
Level 38: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(46), ToHit-I(46), ToHit-I(46)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(45), EndMod-I(45), EndMod-I(45)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Nerve Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(15), Heal-I(17)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(15), EndMod-I(48)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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And this is my current live Claws/SR build (one of her 3 builds)
EDIT: oops forgot to flip the Shield Walls back to LotG in Evasion ... Adding Shield Walls is the next relatively long term plan for her.

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GRETA-001 MedicineFighting (v2.00.i19 MusculatureRadialRebirthRadial): Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Ksmt-ToHit+(37)
Level 2: Slash -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(5), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Hectmb-Dam%(25), Achilles-ResDeb%(45)
Level 4: Focused Senses -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(37)
Level 6: Spin -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(7), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 8: Follow Up -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(31), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Agile -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Run+(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 14: Boxing -- T'Death-Dam%(A)
Level 16: Dodge -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Run+(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 18: Focus -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(19), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Apoc-Dam%(21)
Level 20: Quickness -- Run-I(A)
Level 22: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(23), TtmC'tng-ResDam(29), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(34), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 24: Aid Other -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(29), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 26: Eviscerate -- Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(27), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Armgdn-Dam%(31)
Level 28: Aid Self -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(42), Numna-Heal/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 32: Lucky -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(33)
Level 35: Evasion -- SW-Def(A), SW-Def/EndRdx(36), SW-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 38: Shockwave -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(39), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Ragnrk-Dmg(40)
Level 41: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(48), P'Shift-End%(48), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(48), Numna-Heal(50)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(17), Mrcl-Rcvry+(34), RgnTis-Heal/EndRdx(40), RgnTis-Heal/Rchg(46), RgnTis-Regen+(46)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(40), P'Shift-End%(46)



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Originally Posted by clarke_VII View Post
Well, I'll tell you what, slick. You post your brilliant build vs mine and show all bonuses for resistances, accuracy, damage, so on and so forth, while hitting the soft cap and we'll see whose is superior.
Why?


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
[grumbles]No wonder I can't buy any Kinetic Combats for my typed defense characters -- they're over here on the positional defense characters for some reason.[/grumbles]
Damn, I thought I was the only one looking for them for my SR Brute/Scrapper/Stalker/Tanker's.


I am the 99%. Occupy the World.
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http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes

 

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Originally Posted by clarke_VII View Post
Well, I'll tell you what, slick. You post your brilliant build vs mine and show all bonuses for resistances, accuracy, damage, so on and so forth, while hitting the soft cap and we'll see whose is superior.
Calm down. Nobody said it was better to softcap on SOs, only that it was possible. Also, you are not really in a position to throw mud around about superior builds, having committed some egregious errors in your own.


 

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Originally Posted by Emberly View Post
Calm down. Nobody said it was better to softcap on SOs, only that it was possible. Also, you are not really in a position to throw mud around about superior builds, having committed some egregious errors in your own.
If you can softcap your SR without using defense set bonuses, it means you can focus your slotting on other things, like Regen, recharge, and max HP.

The end result is an overall stronger character.

Also, in the list of IO sets that add defense, you missed an important one: Eradication. It's a PBAoE set that gives you: 1.8% max endurance, 3.13% E/N defense (and 1.56% ranged), 2.25% max HP (largest non-purple set bonus), a useless debt protection bonus, and 3.13% AoE defense. It requires 6 slots to get all that, but it gives you decent amounts to 2 positions, instead of just one like most sets, and gives you other things an SR wants more of (endurance and HP)


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
If you can softcap your SR without using defense set bonuses, it means you can focus your slotting on other things, like Regen, recharge, and max HP.
For sure, and if I implied that I didn't agree, that was my error in communication. Super Reflexes is one of my favourite sets for just that reason; I can gain significant advantages by not having to set myself out with defense bonuses. My point was more that calling out Aneko for implied claims s/he never made was poor form.


 

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Originally Posted by Emberly View Post
My point was more that calling out Aneko for implied claims s/he never made was poor form.
And I thank you for your support.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Emberly View Post
For sure, and if I implied that I didn't agree, that was my error in communication. Super Reflexes is one of my favourite sets for just that reason; I can gain significant advantages by not having to set myself out with defense bonuses. My point was more that calling out Aneko for implied claims s/he never made was poor form.
My reply was to the conversation in general. Your post is just the one I happened to click on that was relevant to what I had to say.

I was not trying to imply that you implied that you disagreed, because the resulting implication would have implied that I take such implications too seriously.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.