Content flow and new players

TerraDraconis · 10-03-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl

I'm pretty sure that Twinshot pops up in a window as soon as someone hits level 5 - and there's also the "find contact" button in the contacts list which picks up contacts in your level range.

Twinshot pops up but he often doesn't stay in the contact list until you do his first mission.

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MrCaptainMan · 10-03-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

It's also assuming you actually READ the mission dialogue. I've met a number of players who had no idea why they were doing what they were doing, mostly because they clicked through all the dialogue as fast as possible.

A depressing number of players haven't the slightest clue what the game's story is all about because "If they wanted to read they wouldn't be playing a video game."

Seriously, someone actually told me that once. They said the game was boring and had no story. That was their response when I asked them if they'd actually been reading the dialogue boxes.

I've been getting this too. And some of the questions from new players in the Help channel make me think that they just don't read anything.

If they're coming from World of Running, then I can see why they don't bother reading anything. The amount of narrative delivered via text in that game is minimal.

Eco.

MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

TerraDraconis · 10-03-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan

Oh yeah, I remember that got me too when i was doping Twinshot
s arc in beta.

Hmm, maybe sb needs to go hang out in KR spamming broadcast with 'FREEBS - DONT GO TO TEH DETECTIVE - GO TO BLUE STEEL!" lol.

Eco.

Good point about the detective hijacking the waypoint. I put a suggestion that this stop over in the suggestion forum after reading about this. It really is excessive and tends to lose players from their primary mission trail.

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MrCaptainMan · 10-03-2011 09:50 AM

Sort of connected to the topic at hand is this:I was playing a newish toon yesterday, and her level was 6, and I had 3 active contacts. Habashy, Sondra something, and Jonathan St Smythe (or whatever his name is - he's in City Hall). I was enjoying doing 3 arcs at once, and was pleasantly surprised at the apparent variety of stuff to do, since i was under the impression that they'd gutted the low-level content to leave a railroad for newbies.

I wasn't having enough fun with Cold/Ice on that defender, however, and so i decided to reroll her as a TM/Ice. Shortly before I did, I finished ST Smythe's arc and was introduced to Wong, that guy standing outside City Hall near the Base portal (I think?).

After I'd deleted her and rolled her again as a TM/ICe, i played through the same content again, only this time, of course, St Smythe and Wong were'nt offered to me. Obviously, I'd rolled her up before Freedom launched, and had played her enough to get her starting Science contact arc going.

What's interesting is that I was able to finish Smythe's arc, AND was introduced to Wong after that. Which makes me believe that the old contact chains are still working, but we're just locked out of them. Which i think is a pity.

Limiting my choice in the game is hardly what I'd call 'Freedom'.

Eco.

MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

MrCaptainMan · 10-03-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TerraDraconis

Good point about the detective hijacking the waypoint. I put a suggestion that this stop over in the suggestion forum after reading about this. It really is excessive and tends to lose players from their primary mission trail.

I'm submitting a bug petition too every time it happens. It's really bad.

Eco.

MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

Gunbunny · 10-03-2011 10:02 AM

This is a great game, but it is to easy to get trapped out of content to non content radio missions, farms and tips. And then yes, it can be very boring.

For starters, autoselect a mission (turn it red) when you accept it. This solves the autosending to detectives. Autosend is good when you enter a new map and you have nothing to do there (at least it is on red side), for blue side, no autosending to a detective if you already talked to one.

Get rid of the talk to unrelated contact, warzone and other side quests missions. And those hunts.....

That would make things a bit better.

Venture · 10-03-2011 10:17 AM

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If they're coming from World of Running, then I can see why they don't bother reading anything. The amount of narrative delivered via text in that game is minimal.

Erm, actually it's about the same. Of course, most of the players there have the same response to it, too. ("Click here to fight mobs.")

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NuclearToast · 10-03-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme

I don't think that's what happened here. Twinshot sent her to KR to talk to Blue Steel, but upon zoning in her waypoint and contact were reset to the Detective (because it's the first time she'd been to the zone), so she went there instead of to Blue Steel, was given her Radio contact and told to do Radio missions.

This is a long-standing bug (yes, I said it) from when the radio missions were introduced. Any time you enter a new zone for the first time, your navigation point is hijacked to the zone's detective, EVEN IF YOU HAVE AN OBJECTIVE THERE. Which you most likely do, since you were probably sent there by a contact for a mission.

Way to break your own story flow, devs. Continue to bug it, guys.

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MrCaptainMan · 10-03-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Venture

Erm, actually it's about the same. Of course, most of the players there have the same response to it, too. ("Click here to fight mobs.")

Things must have radically improved in it since i last played it, then. Here we have briefings, debriefings, clues, NPC dialogue, mission entry popups, chat log messages, the info panels, souvenirs...apart from brief briefings and debriefings, I never noticed any of the others in that game.

Which apart from all the damn running was my main reason for hating it. "Hello? Plot? Storyline? Where are you?"

If it's got actual words in it now, maybe i'll give it another bash.

Eco.

MArcs:

The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."