Level 50 Premium? +other random Q's?
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Posted on: 2011-09-30 13:32 in Player Questions
1. Everything is available to premiums except Incarnate-related activities. Praetoria and First Ward require a separate unlock, but still accessible (note that this isn't level 50 content). Alignment content is a separate unlock and can be done at 50, and generates some great rewards.
2. Elitism basically doesn't exist unless a particular player is a dolt. Every build is viable unless you've pulled some seriously epic stupid human tricks (all four travel powers or not taking any attacks beyond your tier1 or whatever). Some builds are better in teams than others, some builds can solo standard content better than others, some builds are wildly powerful and can solo most of the game.
3. There are a bunch of oddities regarding upgrading from free/premium to VIP, so best bet is to send a petition.
4. Any enhancement that must be crafted are IOs. Level 25 IOs are about equal to an even level SO. You can do a lot more crazy things with IOs than you can do with SOs. SO builds can be very "cookie cutter". You can access IOs with a monthly fee of $2 (buying 400pp means you can access IOs for two months, with some change left over).
5. PVP can be done from 1-50 in the arena, and can be done from 15-50 in PVP zones. However, PVP is almost completely dead on most servers, with Freedom and Infinity being the most active PVP servers, but even then it's pretty low pop. PVP is pseudo balanced but not really.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
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Agge hit this one mostly. You've got two options for PvP - arena and zone. Arena is generally where the more competitive PvP occurs but there isn't much of that in this game anymore. There was a set of large, sweeping changes made to the PvP system about three years ago that drove most of the PvP population out of the game and it's been limping along since. Large events happen every few months but there's nothing ongoing like there used to be.|
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
5. PVP? Is this balanced in any way in this game? Is it limited to only level 50? Fighting against computers are fun, but testing against other players can be even more challenging.
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At any rate, you're probably better off getting into zone PvP to start out with though it should be noted that as a premium/free player you're going to be at a disadvantage because you won't have access to IOs unless you pay for them and in today's PvP build is nearly as important as skill. The four PvP zones are Bloody Bay (15-25), Siren's Call (20-30), Warburg (30-40), and Recluse's Victory (40+), with Warburg being the only free-for-all zone. Of those zones, you're only going to find activity in RV and occasionally Siren's, and only on the Freedom server these days (Virtue and Infinity especially used to have active zone populations but even RV on Virtue's dead most nights now).
Give PvP a try and don't be expecting anything to work like it does in PvE, because PvP uses a very different ruleset now, meaning some powers that are garbage in PvE are very useful in PvP, and vice versa. Don't get discouraged by dying - a lot - and the trash talk. Those are all normal parts of PvP and if you don't have thick skin you probably won't enjoy it.
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He's getting in via Going Rogue, shouldn't that mean Praetoria, First Ward, and the Alignment system start unlocked for him?
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
1. Everything is available to premiums except Incarnate-related activities. Praetoria and First Ward require a separate unlock, but still accessible (note that this isn't level 50 content). Alignment content is a separate unlock and can be done at 50, and generates some great rewards.
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He should have Praetoria, Alignment System, and a variety of other things, but not First Ward.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
He's getting in via Going Rogue, shouldn't that mean Praetoria, First Ward, and the Alignment system start unlocked for him?
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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To nit pick: he'll have access to the First Ward zone, but no contacts.
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Originally Posted by General_CoH
To nit pick: he'll have access to the First Ward zone, but no contacts.
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He also can't team with anyone doing the contacts.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I don't understand how you can be new to the game with a 2008 forum date.
You had to have had a paid account back then to create a forum name.
Did you buy the game get a forum name and then just never played?
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Well... I played the game for about a month, then quit due to financial and time constraints. With as many updates and changes since then, I may as well be new.....
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Aggie pretty much took care of you (she does that), but on the IO vs SO thing, I'll add a little more. IOs are definitely more powerful than SOs. I strongly recommend them for two reasons:
1. SOs expire on you when you level. Since 9 times out of 10 you level inside a mission, if you find all of your accuracy expires that can really suck all the fun out of a mission. This is the specific reason I have not used anything but IOs on any of my characters for the last two years.
2. SOs are limited by your origin. Stores often only sell one or two types. So you have to find the right store. Then they all have weird names. A few you can probably figure out what sort of bonus they give - Military Accuracy for instance is pretty obvious. But where would you slot an Oscillator Overthruster? IO's on the other hand, straight up tell you: endurance reduction. And every character can use them. No bothering with origins or accidentally going to the wrong store.
It's just way easier on IOs.
But if you need some quick guidance: Put 1 end reduction in all your attacks before you worry about the toggle powers. Attacks use way more endurance than most toggles. Don't put more than three of the same SO into a single power. "generic" attack slotting is 1 accuracy, 3 damage, 1 end reduction, and either a second accuracy or a recharge.
Builds might be cookie cutter on SOs, but if anyone tells you you're too weak to join thier team, they're egotistical, and you can find better playmates without trying too hard.
Without access to the market, you will have a really hard time affording IOs. So if you go that route, you will want to buy market access as well.
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I want to emphasize what GavinRuneblade said about teaming. The game is balanced on SOs, except for the Incarnate stuff you can't do, and you can play it just fine and contribute to teams without ever slotting one. Actually there are quite a few people that do Incarnate stuff on characters with SOs slotted, it is just a bit more difficult for them.
One source of IOs you will have is the alignment missions. If you want to, starting at level 20, you can get either a Hero or Villain Merit every 2 days. You can turn them in at special traders for various Set IOs. It only costs a couple of the Merits for some very nice IOs and it is much cheaper and easier than buying them on the market.
Personally, while I have seen several people complain about the names of the SOs for the different origins, I have never had a problem with it. I never pay attention to the names, I look at the colors. If it is yellow, it is accuracy. Red is damage, orange is holds, etc. I can't tell you what the name of the color is for range SOs but I know what it is when I see it. 
And you can always just hover your cursor over it if you aren't sure.
And the easiest way to buy them once you are level 35 is pop over to RWZ and pick them up there. All origins are for sale and they actually give you the best price for selling ones you don't want.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
1. Everything is available to premiums except Incarnate-related activities. Praetoria and First Ward require a separate unlock, but still accessible (note that this isn't level 50 content). Alignment content is a separate unlock and can be done at 50, and generates some great rewards.
2. Elitism basically doesn't exist unless a particular player is a dolt. Every build is viable unless you've pulled some seriously epic stupid human tricks (all four travel powers or not taking any attacks beyond your tier1 or whatever). Some builds are better in teams than others, some builds can solo standard content better than others, some builds are wildly powerful and can solo most of the game. 3. There are a bunch of oddities regarding upgrading from free/premium to VIP, so best bet is to send a petition. 4. Any enhancement that must be crafted are IOs. Level 25 IOs are about equal to an even level SO. You can do a lot more crazy things with IOs than you can do with SOs. SO builds can be very "cookie cutter". You can access IOs with a monthly fee of $2 (buying 400pp means you can access IOs for two months, with some change left over). 5. PVP can be done from 1-50 in the arena, and can be done from 15-50 in PVP zones. However, PVP is almost completely dead on most servers, with Freedom and Infinity being the most active PVP servers, but even then it's pretty low pop. PVP is pseudo balanced but not really. http://www.paragonwiki.com |
I will add however in regards to numbers 1+4) Nearly all the content you will have access to as a Premium 50 was introduced pre-IOs, so while yes, individuals with access to them have the potential to handle content better, they don't protect from poor playstyle, which could still see you excelling at some content more than others.
Unfortunately you can't purchase yourself incarnate content, but all the top level Task Forces will allow you to participate, 2 of these however have level 54 enemies and debuff your level to an effective 46, giving them 8 levels of clearance over you... You can still participate, if you can find a team willing to take you, and your idea of participation involves the floor alot.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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If you're referring to Apex and Tin Mage TFs, no, a Premium or Free player should NOT be able to even participate, since a requirement for even starting the TF is that all characters must have their Alpha Incarnate slot unlocked (at minimum). The -4 level debuff happens for toons without the Alpha slot populated.|
Originally Posted by Mega_Jamie
2 of these however have level 54 enemies and debuff your level to an effective 46, giving them 8 levels of clearance over you... You can still participate, if you can find a team willing to take you, and your idea of participation involves the floor alot.
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(Now maybe a Premium player with a toon that unlocked Alpha while still a VIP or subscriber could participate in these TFs, but if so, I'd say that's not working as intended.)
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I was, I thought that ayone could participate, just having the slot unlocked and filled stopped the debuff....|
Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
If you're referring to Apex and Tin Mage TFs, no, a Premium or Free player should NOT be able to even participate, since a requirement for even starting the TF is that all characters must have their Alpha Incarnate slot unlocked (at minimum). The -4 level debuff happens for toons without the Alpha slot populated.
(Now maybe a Premium player with a toon that unlocked Alpha while still a VIP or subscriber could participate in these TFs, but if so, I'd say that's not working as intended.) |
ive never been crazy enough to try either way, my mistake!
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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I'm new to the game, and will be back to Premium status soon enough...(found going Rogue in the clearance bin... much cheaper than individual unlocks.....)
1. As a premium... what content is there available at max level? I hear about the incarnate stuff for VIP's as endgame-ish stuff... Is that the only option? Or is it pretty much 50 and done... off to start a new character.
2. Elite-ism? How bad is it in this game? I see posts saying that just about any build is viable, but how bad are the players? Other popular MMO's are extremely elitist, to the point of bullying others for not using the 1 or 2 builds deemed viable.
3. Paragon Rewards tokens - Will I get a reward token for the free month of VIP from applying the Going Rogue code? I got the points, but no token yet.
4. Enhancements/IO's?- It will be a long long time before I ever reach Tier 7 and permanent IO unlocks. Are all the enhancements with set bonuses IO based? How big of a difference is the SO vs IO? Buying the license might be fine, as the price of one month of VIP is almost a year worth of IO access.
5. PVP? Is this balanced in any way in this game? Is it limited to only level 50? Fighting against computers are fun, but testing against other players can be even more challenging.
That's all I can think of for now...