Question about buying points:


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Here's a weird question: Can you buy Paragon Points without having a card attached to your account? I ask this because I have a friend whom I've been trying to get interested into the game, and so far he's been receptive. At some point, I'd like to possibly buy points for him just because it's a nice thing to do, but I have to ask - can this be done without actually registering my card or PayPal account to his PlayNC master account? Not only can I not actually do that (and Support couldn't help), but I don't want to do more than one purchase with said card.

I know Steam lets me make one-off purchases for in-game goods without having to have a "card on file," but does NCsoft allow this?


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Here's a weird question: Can you buy Paragon Points without having a card attached to your account? I ask this because I have a friend whom I've been trying to get interested into the game, and so far he's been receptive. At some point, I'd like to possibly buy points for him just because it's a nice thing to do, but I have to ask - can this be done without actually registering my card or PayPal account to his PlayNC master account? Not only can I not actually do that (and Support couldn't help), but I don't want to do more than one purchase with said card.

I know Steam lets me make one-off purchases for in-game goods without having to have a "card on file," but does NCsoft allow this?
Nope. Can't do it. Zwill has said they're aware that people want it a lot, but that they won't implement it until they are absolutely sure it can't be exploited.

Edit: That said, maybe buy him one of those pre-paid Visa gift cards? That might work.


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I just sat there and handed him $20 to replace the $20 he was using from his own bank account as he purchased the points. Also meant I got to walk him through the process in person.


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Nope. Can't do it. Zwill has said they're aware that people want it a lot, but that they won't implement it until they are absolutely sure it can't be exploited.
Well, I don't necessarily mean gifting points. If, for instance, I go to the "Buy Points" link from the Paragon Store, is there an option to "Pay with card on file" AND an option to a "One-time payment" with whatever I have on hand? How are supposedly Free players supposed to buy these points, anyway? Are they supposed to have a card on file that's just never used?

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Edit: That said, maybe buy him one of those pre-paid Visa gift cards? That might work.
I don't think this will work. If you want to register a card on file but NOT subscribe to game time with it, then NCsoft try to validate the card by making a $0 withdrawal from the card. Thing is, banks around here don't allow that, it throws up an internal error in their systems, I get an SMS about a failed transaction and to NCsoft it looks like the card was denied. I was told up front that there's nothing they can do about this initial withdrawal, and the only way I was able to enter my own card was to let my subscription expire and then resubscribe, paying as I did this to FORCE NCsoft's systems to make a withdrawal greater than $0.

I was told I could subscribe to the game using PayPal, and I can, but hat means said PayPal account will be charged for subscription time. I can't list a PayPal account as the "card on file" because it's not a card and the option for it doesn't exist on the accounting site.

Trust me, I went back and forth with this for a whole damn week, and the best I got out of it was a workaround. I don't know to do this without actually charging myself for subscription the guy's not going to want and that I kind of don't want to pay for.

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I just sat there and handed him $20 to replace the $20 he was using from his own bank account as he purchased the points. Also meant I got to walk him through the process in person.
I would, but that won't work in this case. See, the guy is incredibly modest and he'll outright refuse something like this. The only way I've been able to buy game-related stuff for him is when I've already bought a game over, say, Steam and I have an extra copy I can't use, so we might as well. Convincing him to spend money on himself - even when it's my money - isn't really an option and is just awkward for both of us. Plus, the only thing he has is card that'll run into the same problem as mine, anyway.

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I guess my question should have been: How do Free players purchase points and do they need a card on file?


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Until they start selling points cards in the store you will need a CC of some kind. You can however purchase points through account management and not keep the card on file.


 

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Until they start selling points cards in the store you will need a CC of some kind. You can however purchase points through account management and not keep the card on file.
I can? That would help. How DOES one buy points, actually? I've been subsisting on the unexpectedly high amount of points I got at I21 launch so I haven't bought any with real money. Can I do a one-off purchase with a card that doesn't stick around anywhere afterwards and doesn't have to be on file beforehand? That would be the ideal solution, I think.


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There is a box you can uncheck that will prevent the card from being put on file when you buy points through the account page. You can also delete any cards you have on file from there. It's just like subscribing except its the "Buy Points" option.


 

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At some point, I'd like to possibly buy points for him just because it's a nice thing to do, but I have to ask - can this be done without actually registering my card or PayPal account to his PlayNC master account? Not only can I not actually do that (and Support couldn't help), but I don't want to do more than one purchase with said card.

I know Steam lets me make one-off purchases for in-game goods without having to have a "card on file," but does NCsoft allow this?
Yes you can do this, although you would need his master account login details to buy them for him (so that is the element of trust here).

You dont need to put a card (or even paypal) on file before hand... i have had friends pay a month sub for me here and there with their cards and also via paypal... and none of the time have the details stuck (because i unticked the "keep card on file option")

To buy points though, once you are logged into your NCSoft master account, click "City of Heroes" on the right hand side of the screen.. to take you to the CoX account page, and then you will see the option to "buy more points".

Once you click that link, you choose how many points you want to buy, click next and then you have several payment options...

I am in the UK and the options are as follows:

Credit Card
Credit Card on file
Paypal
Paysafecard
Worldpay

((Payment options may vary according to region though))


 

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That'll do! Thank you


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I can? That would help. How DOES one buy points, actually? I've been subsisting on the unexpectedly high amount of points I got at I21 launch so I haven't bought any with real money. Can I do a one-off purchase with a card that doesn't stick around anywhere afterwards and doesn't have to be on file beforehand? That would be the ideal solution, I think.
I've been buying points on the NCsoft account management screen, and using Paypal, NOT the card attached to the account. The card attached to the account is my husband's and we budget closely on it, but my Paypal account is my own money so when I want to play, I use that.


 

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I'm not even sure I have a card 'on file' in regards to the store.

I have to enter the # for each purchase. I was low on my company card, which I'd been using for the sub, so when I went to buy more points I wanted to use my bank card. It let me without issue.

So, I tried using my card on my friends account. Making sure he didn't click the 'Save for use' box. Took it no problem. When he went back into the screen, the # was gone and he had to enter his.

Not sure if this is WAI or not though.


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