Issue 21 question re: Peacebringers..

Of course Clarion would help, but Light Form covers the same mez types as Unyielding, Integration and Practiced Brawler, just at lower magnitude. The Defense of Barrier isn't that useful after for the first 30 seconds.

Right, the magnitude is the issue (especially if you like to do insane things like solo +4 groups with heavy mez, like I do.) True that the defense buff barrier provides decreases but my build has good defense in the first place, so it will stack and remain beneficial to me. If you don't have any defense in your build, I could see not taking it though... I wouldn't like the sporadic, steep shifts in my defense either.

Quite true that New Lightform wont mez protect like it used to and yes having a break free can be beautiful....but I'll still have the tray button on all my Khelds that transforms them to dwarf mode as they pay tribute to Jack King Kirby by saying the magic words "Gone! Gone, the form of man! Arise the Kheldian, Kheldigran!"


The builds I've worked out still retain squid/dwarf. Both are mules for IO sets, but both could still be used. These builds are to have permalight form and good defense in human form but still retain the forms for those that like to transform so one could transform to dwarf mode if the mezzing gets too severe. Yes they will need to reactivate certain defense powers after reverting to human but they should hopefully be in a safe spot to do so.

Also I have worked out the second build where one can be perma lightform without hasten. S/F defense drops to 44% and Melee defense to 37%, other defenses will be lower then those of course. Also those defense numbers are WITHOUT the Gladiator armor 3% def proc installed, so if one can afford that they can boost their defense a bit.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

The new Light Form will carry over into Nova and Dwarf, won't it? I don't use them, but I read something about that. If so, would you have to revert to Human to reactivate it?

My perma-Light during Beta was also without Hasten (or purple IO sets). It's definitely doable.

True enough it's handy; unfortunately I'm not RPing mine as a shapeshifter of any sort.
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Awesome reference

I, too, will be retaining both forms as usable set-mules. I am not worried about the incarnate softcap, as 45% defense + a vet-boosted luck (13.125%) = less than 1% short of incarnate softcap.

Ohh, did you actually build all the way to the softcap (normal content wise) for all the damage types we encounter in Incarnate trials? I'm not even softcapped for s/l, which is my highest defense... it's at 31.6% in Mids and still won't hit 45% when combat flight provides typed defense. My positions are at 29% melee, 27% ranged, and 22% aoe.

Heck no, I'm pretty sure that's not even possible, or, if it is, wouldn't completely destroy your build. Softcap s/l with a solid chunk of melee and others, but I grabbed some extra psi def/res. My current warshade build has no problems soloing any part of the incarnate trials with a bit less than that.

I'll just recline in my chair here while you solo Marauder. 1,2,3, go!

Done At least surviving...for a good while...

Just checked, the best I could do (gimping a build) was 45.3 s/l, 38.4 e/n, 35.6 f/c, 18.4 psi. So definitely not possible.

Never give up. Just to be different, one of mine is softcapped to Ranged and Melee. It works out pretty well for me.

I find I have more room in building positional defense up (on a Peacebringer) than trying to build up all types. There's really probably no way to do it without it looking gimpy as hell, though. I only brought it up when you said:


I'm wondering how you arrived at 45% on the Incarnate Softcap, as you seemed to bring it up after I mentioned why I'd be using Barrier.

Ya, while there is a significant amount of pure energy attacks, I have found the incidental e/n defense I have combined with resistance cap makes it a non-issue. I might try melee/ranged see if I can do better.

Yes you must revert to human to trigger lightform again. Unless they made a last minute adjustment so that you can activate lightform when transformed.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

Yeah and maybe they made Solar Flare not KB at the last minute too.

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