I don't consider those show stopper bugs. Ninja launch please?
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So tens of thousands of players losing the VIP status they are paying for and being treated as free players isn't a show stopper bug? The ability to lose a hundred dollars or more buying stuff off the store that you had bought before (and can't tell that you've bought before because of the borked cash shop interface) with no ability to get that money back isn't a show stopper bug?|
Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
I don't consider those show stopper bugs. Ninja launch please?
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Right. I am very happy that you aren't the one making those decisions.
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I can easily understand and accept why the Devs have apparently decided that those two problems are big enough to delay the launch of Issue 21. But since I don't play this game on a Mac and feel that I could be careful enough to avoid double-purchasing things on my own for a few days you can at least see why people like me might feel a bit more frustrated about this delay than others.|
Originally Posted by Sun_Runner
On the condition that nearly every player with a mac instead of a pc is suddenly stripped down to being a free player with no way to fix it and the ability to buy the same costume bit infinite times with NO refunds (NO REFUNDS) ... sure, they can ninja launch it ...
And after the launch bombs, sufficiently illwill is generated among the playerbase and every review site out there crows about how badly they [censored by me] up the game ... No. No ninja launch. Let us not strangle this infant in the crib. |
Obviously in the long run it won't matter much. Just pointing out that as of today it is relatively sucky. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
I don't consider those show stopper bugs. Ninja launch please?
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What's the chance of i21 coming out tomorrow Friday before the long weekend?
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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I would give it about 0.001% chance for many obvious reasons...
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
What's the chance of i21 coming out tomorrow Friday before the long weekend?
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Roughly the same chance as my suddenly being free to do the things that my disability stops me from doing. So ... about the same chance as the Sun not coming up next morning.
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
What's the chance of i21 coming out tomorrow Friday before the long weekend?
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can we go lower?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I would give it about 0.001% chance for many obvious reasons...
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Tens of thousands of players... playing City of Heroes... on MACS?|
Originally Posted by Sun_Runner
So tens of thousands of players losing the VIP status...
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To counter that argument, we have thousands of millions of billions of players playing COH on their PCs - so the relative percentage of players losing their VIP status because they are playing COH on a computer not designed, or intended, for gaming is minuscule.
Those aren't even the only two issues I'd consider a showstopper. The character creator bug where if you put in the name on any screen except for the very last, it reserves the name and prevents anyone (including you) from using it could be EXTREMELY frustrating to anyone who doesn't know the workaround.
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Again I won't argue the Devs' decision that they apparently considered the Mac thing a show-stopper. But I'd have to agree with you in saying I'd be very surprised to learn that more than 10% of the playerbase actually uses a Mac to play this game. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
Tens of thousands of players... playing City of Heroes... on MACS?
To counter that argument, we have thousands of millions of billions of players playing COH on their PCs - so the relative percentage of players losing their VIP status because they are playing COH on a computer not designed, or intended, for gaming is minuscule. |
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Ouch that is a show stopper bugger for sure. |
Originally Posted by MTS
Those aren't even the only two issues I'd consider a showstopper. The character creator bug where if you put in the name on any screen except for the very last, it reserves the name and prevents anyone (including you) from using it could be EXTREMELY frustrating to anyone who doesn't know the workaround.
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I think that I21 will be launched sometime later this month or sometime in October.
Cancel the kitchen scraps for widows and lepers, no more merciful beheadings and call off christmas!
My personal hatred of Macs aside (honestly Mac considerations should NEVER factor into MMO programing- the % of users is too small)- I understand why launch was postponed.
It's not the bug itself, it's the bad press it would generate. That they cannot afford (example- the OTHER tights MMOs lol) and since the Dev team has made a real effort to include fringe.... err Mac players then this is the right course.
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And this is what you choose to focus on? *sighs*|
Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
Tens of thousands of players... playing City of Heroes... on MACS?
To counter that argument, we have thousands of millions of billions of players playing COH on their PCs - so the relative percentage of players losing their VIP status because they are playing COH on a computer not designed, or intended, for gaming is minuscule. |
How about "I bought this powerset. It didn't go through. I bought it again. It didn't go through. Then I got both emails and it went through. But I can't get my points or my money back from buying it the second time." I did this in the beta with the available powersets. I'm going to assume that others will make this mistake as well. On a beta with free points, its' not a problem. On live with paid-for points and no refunds? Problem.
Or when buying the extra storage expansions. You did notice how difficult it was to keep track of which ones you had already bought and which ones you still needed to buy? I know I did. I'm relatively certain I bought a few of them multiple times. Again, beta, free points, no problem. Live, paid-for points, no refunds, problem.
Feel free to continue your ravings about the mac players and my imaginary numbers. It sure does suck to be a minority in the community, this community especially. Reminds me of offline.
Man, I was almost certain that it's coming out before the long weekend. lol
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
The last time I seriously used a MAC was like 1993? lol
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And some people use nothing else. You'd be surprised what changes time has wrought.
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Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
The last time I seriously used a MAC was like 1993? lol
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I agree.|
Originally Posted by Sun_Runner
And some people use nothing else. You'd be surprised what changes time has wrought.
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Mac users get with the times. Linux for the win.
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Considering it was the centerpiece of your argument... yes?|
Originally Posted by Sun_Runner
And this is what you choose to focus on? *sighs*
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Originally Posted by Sun_Runner
How about "I bought this powerset. It didn't go through. I bought it again. It didn't go through. Then I got both emails and it went through. But I can't get my points or my money back from buying it the second time." I did this in the beta with the available powersets. I'm going to assume that others will make this mistake as well. On a beta with free points, its' not a problem. On live with paid-for points and no refunds? Problem.
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Unfortunately, patience is not sold in the market at this time so you will have to acquire it from other sources.
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Originally Posted by Sun_Runner
Or when buying the extra storage expansions. You did notice how difficult it was to keep track of which ones you had already bought and which ones you still needed to buy? I know I did.
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If you tried to buy Extra Storage #3 multiple times - FAIL.
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Originally Posted by Sun_Runner
Feel free to continue your ravings about the mac players and my imaginary numbers. .
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For the record, the only time I had a bit of confusion was when the market and our purchases were reset.
If that confuses you - a reset is everything is restored to its default state. So, in the case of the Paragon Market, all of our purchase histories were reset. I.e. Cleared.
Back in MY day... When I used my ol' Apple ][+ with the staggering 48 Kb of RAM, we wouldn't put UP with this anti-fruit sentiment!!!
Honestly, Mac/PC, character generator, store, the current issues that have royally [pancaked] both the playing experience and the gaming ability of many...
They are all valid reasons to keep the live launch of CoH:F shelved until the issues are resolved...
As far as I'M concerned, let them delay until they can bring out Street Justice as well... I have every intention of having a hero-brute Street Justice toon as my main on the VIP server!!!
I do miss Street Justice.
And I hate melee powers.
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They've just announced that the servers are back up; so no, it wasn't I 21.
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Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...91#post3847291
Or just upgrading of the computers only? They said the VIP sneak peak date is soon to be announced, but didn't specify the announcement would be ahead of the event. |
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So you don't consider the Mac client crashing upon trying to access the market a showstopper?|
Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
I don't consider those show stopper bugs. Ninja launch please?
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I oughta slap you with a frying pan.
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Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
The last time I seriously used a MAC was like 1993? lol
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We've been at this for TWO DAMN YEARS trying to get our "supported" mac client fixed, so you can take your jokes and your "I think I'm funny when I make fun of macs" and SHOVE IT.
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And after the launch bombs, sufficiently illwill is generated among the playerbase and every review site out there crows about how badly they [censored by me] up the game ...
No. No ninja launch. Let us not strangle this infant in the crib.