The Determinator
I do believe outside bonuses and set bonuses affect temp powers. It just didn't come to me as I was making this character, so I actually expected this to be a lot harder.
I can also attest that skill helps as well. Using just my wits and the temporary powers I had, I was able to solo an accidentally aggro'd mob set for a 5-member team with cautious use of smoke flash, stun grenade, and pool powers.
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Not a prob for me, I usually have dormant mains with lots of inf lying so the inf is not so bad ( I spent to close to 50 mil on regular IOs for one of my 50 toons.)
The only problem I see is the availability of the recipes. (Virtue is also my home server) so maybe If I do use recipes I should be very prudent with their usage.
For instance like you said, I'll will get a bunch of power pools sets to fill in the attack chain and use the temps when this gets hairy or for tough fights. Yeah...that can help lower the inf cost.
I am definitely up to this challenge also. (Glad to see others join in). Maybe if we see each when servers come up we can team up for fun.
Should be interesting and fun to say the least.
Feel free to look me up - Poor Prospect is my character name as stated in the OP. My global is in my signature. Would be nice to see a full team of Determinators.
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Another alternative to temp powers, when a toon gets to 20+ we can go to Ouroboros and
repeat missions for the temps powers received from those missions. That can also cut the info cost too!
(Info http://cityofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Temporary_Powers)
Check it out. Those temp powers got me thinking...
I might actually take you up on that!
Virtue server is back up! Time to start up for the day.
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Coolies see ya there!
DAY 3 WRAP UP
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I had to cut today a little short, because I have housework to do. I only got to level 14, which is high enough to get Tough, slot DOs, and run out of temporary powers. No teams today, oddly enough. I'm also running out of funds, so I might have to skip a day or two to disregard leveling and acquire money (points for reference). I have to say, after getting DOs, my survivability doubled and my pool powers also seem to do a tiny bit more damage. Despite all of these improvements, Stun Grenade and Smoke Flash are still my saviors, as mobs are becoming stronger and more abundant.
Also, special shout out to Rappa Eaze, who is a petless Mastermind inspired by my challenge.
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Back in issue 5 I attempted to make a scrapper alt with a "pure" super speedster build. I followed pretty much the same rules as your challenge: I could only use power pool attacks (and, since this was before veteran rewards, I think I allowed myself to use the first attack from Martial Arts).
I made it to the Hollows and could not get him any further. Then I deleted and rerolled him as a rad/thermal corruptor when CoV hit.
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I'm also running out of funds, so I might have to skip a day or two to disregard leveling and acquire money (points for reference).
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ACQUIRE CURRENCY
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We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
No update for today. I'm gonna use my time to gather up some more money to fund this challenge.
Although I will half-necro this thread so it takes on the first page.
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Once again, no update for today. Sorry! I had real life to attend to.
In other news, I did get lucky with temporary power recipe drops on my other characters, so less of those that I have to buy!
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Also, to make a note, the Determinator is not AT restricted, so if you have to roll an AT that does get attacks in their secondary, be my guest, but I guarantee you a Tanker Determinator is gonna be very hard without armors.
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
DAY 4
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Well, it's about 8:30 am in my area. I got some homecooked breakfast, and a nice helping of Determination. Time to start up!
My goal for today is to just make up for lost progress. I have recipes, but I don't have salvage, but I do have money.
As a side note, I might make an all-Determinator SG if enough people get involved...
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
DAY 4 WRAP UP
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After crafting my usual temporary powers, noting the dramatic decrease in price for a lot of things that I need (recipes, salvage, etc.), I headed out to finish my Midnighter arc. Threw on LFG, and posted in the Virtue LFG Beta channel using a different message from usual.
"Level 14 Determinator lft, blueside"
Now, I figured that enough people have seen this thread to know what that means, or that nobody really cared, but I got some tells of interest, people asking what I meant, and a lot of positive replies. It made me giddy.
Minutes later, someone was advertising for a Positron Part 1. Great! I can join this TF I've never done before on a concept I've never done before. It'll prove to be an interesting experience.
So I joined the team, and chatted out my usual forewarnings of my gimpiness. No one seemed to care, so that was great. Team makeup was wonderful.
Throughout the TF, everything went very smoothly, and I felt like a shining beacon to my team, showing that a little determination is enough to succeed, which was great, because of another surprise...
In this team, there were two people in it that were new to the game! For one, this was their first team, and for the other, their first controller. As you can imagine, the former was bewildered by the speed of the XP gain, and by my Handing of Grenades, and Jumping of Kicks. I had to explain everything to him, welcome him to the game, and explain to him that City of Heroes is a team-oriented game that you can play with your friends and still succeed doing whatever you want. I started to begin to feel like a true hero and veteran for the first time in a few years, rather than a cringy old man (note: not an old man) who can't stop playing the same game.
Cue Shadow Simulacrums, and more bewilderment. The two new players were confounded that my double was a Martial Arts scrapper, when I myself hit things with a bat and a sledgehammer. I had to explain the limitations of the Doppleganger system, but believe that the darn thing was psychic.
All in all, it was a very fun TF, and that's story-wise, team-wise, and character-wise. I got to level 17, but had to cut it short because a friend of mine wants me to play another character. Things are looking up!
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
...but had to cut it short because a friend of mine wants me to play another character.
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Oh sure, way to stick to your guns there, Determinator!
No but seriously, this is what I love to hear. Blowing new players minds with visble proof that you can have a great time and make good progress without an uber build.
You're making this sound more and more fun with each post! Thanks for keeping us updated
Don't forget Faultline (for the Clockwork Pet), Croatoa (for the Sword and Bow temp powers), and LOTS of Safeguards, hoping you'll get the temp power side mission .
Oh and I'd be interested how you get on with the Vahzilok Plague mission if you decide to run it at the appropriate level!
This sounds like a lot of fun. Like seeing tattoos on other people, they look nice but I wouldn't necessarily want one myself. When Freedom hits and I'm tempted to roll more alts, I may venture on to Virtue and check out the toon.
Are there any other 'challenges' apart from Iron Man/Woman / Determinator builds?
DAY 4 WRAP UP
--- "Level 14 Determinator lft, blueside" Now, I figured that enough people have seen this thread to know what that means, or that nobody really cared, but I got some tells of interest, people asking what I meant, and a lot of positive replies. It made me giddy. |
Nice to see that the spirit of the MAN build continues.
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Don't forget Faultline (for the Clockwork Pet), Croatoa (for the Sword and Bow temp powers), and LOTS of Safeguards, hoping you'll get the temp power side mission .
Oh and I'd be interested how you get on with the Vahzilok Plague mission if you decide to run it at the appropriate level! This sounds like a lot of fun. Like seeing tattoos on other people, they look nice but I wouldn't necessarily want one myself. When Freedom hits and I'm tempted to roll more alts, I may venture on to Virtue and check out the toon. Are there any other 'challenges' apart from Iron Man/Woman / Determinator builds? |
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
You know, I honestly forgot about running the Faultline arcs. Now THAT is a challenge that'll take some determination!
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED |
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@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Perfectly acceptable. You just can't use any of your Primary attacks.
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Hmmm, i wonder if Shouty McYellsalot is taken?
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Yikes! No updates all weekend! Sorry guys, I've been REALLY busy, and I haven't had time to Determinate (Yes, I just made that up) some baddies. If I can find some time today, then I'll do an official update
@Leetdeth - Virtue | MA Arcs(all challenge arcs): Big Magic Blowout! #369774 | Who Really Cares About This? Z! #509577 | That Meddling King! (teams recommended) #21450
Very interesting thread!
Also interesting is how much positive feedback and encouragement you're getting for (essentially) making a Petless Mastermind, which is roundly bashed to the ground whenever it gets brought up!
Did I read the above statement correctly, that global bonuses from IOs/sets help temp powers?
If so, I may be convinced to roll up a Determinator of my own. (I'm paranoid about missing.)
Icy_J, I play on Virtue pretty much exclusively, and my global handle is my forum name if you want to add me.