Please critique this SS/FA/Mu build


Arasnos

 

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Hello everyone. This is aimed to be an all-purpose build, able to run trials but also run AE fire farms. Please let me know what you think, and what changes I should make, if any!

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Thermal Alloy: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(25)
Level 2: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(5), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 6: Blazing Aura -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), HO:Nucle(39)
Level 10: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 12: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 14: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 18: Rage -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(19), AdjTgt-Rchg(50)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(48)
Level 22: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(23), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 26: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), RctvArm-ResDam(37)
Level 28: Burn -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), FrcFbk-Rechg%(40)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 41: Electrifying Fences -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rng(43)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Dmg/Rng(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(37), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(21), EndMod-I(43)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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50+ views and not a single comment? There must be a couple of old pros that have some advice to share!


 

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you could always look at the 50 million other threads on this subject. Perhaps they got tired of critiquing the same build over and over. Its the most popular build in the game, theres plenty of info out there.


 

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Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
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Click this DataLink to open the build!

Thermal Alloy: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(25)
Level 2: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(5), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 6: Blazing Aura -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), HO:Nucle(39)
Level 10: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 12: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 14: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 18: Rage -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(19), AdjTgt-Rchg(50)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(48)
Level 22: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(23), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 26: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), RctvArm-ResDam(37)
Level 28: Burn -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), FrcFbk-Rechg%(40)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 41: Gloom -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Dam%(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(37), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(21), EndMod-I(43)
Level 4: Ninja Run


you want soul for pve spam gloom>burn>haymaker and use proc in dark oblit over dmg/rng


oh and a cheap build like this will be a slow farmer...ideally you want a separate farming build and a separate pve build


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Originally Posted by Weables1 View Post
you could always look at the 50 million other threads on this subject. Perhaps they got tired of critiquing the same build over and over.
That, *sigh*


"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal

@Caucasiafro

 

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SS/FA build ? How original !


 

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Originally Posted by Weables1 View Post
you could always look at the 50 million other threads on this subject. Perhaps they got tired of critiquing the same build over and over. Its the most popular build in the game, theres plenty of info out there.
So what you're saying is - "don't try to use your brain to come up with something. Go copy one of the other builds, hope it works, and leave us alone"

I'm very sorry that everyone else is trying to optimize the same set that I am. There's a reason for that. Just because I'm late to the game doesn't mean I should be ignored. I posted a build and asked for help, what's wrong with that? I don't want to copy someone else's, and I'm sure I would have been looked down upon if I did.

How can I win?


 

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Originally Posted by Kor_El View Post
So what you're saying is - "don't try to use your brain to come up with something. Go copy one of the other builds, hope it works, and leave us alone"

I'm very sorry that everyone else is trying to optimize the same set that I am. There's a reason for that. Just because I'm late to the game doesn't mean I should be ignored. I posted a build and asked for help, what's wrong with that? I don't want to copy someone else's, and I'm sure I would have been looked down upon if I did.

How can I win?
I think what they mean is any comments they make will just lead you to the many other optimized SS/FA/MU builds on these forums.


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Originally Posted by Grae Knight View Post
I think what they mean is any comments they make will just lead you to the many other optimized SS/FA/MU builds on these forums.
This, quite frankly there is enough info out there that you should already know what to do.
You could always at least... you know...not make ANOTHER thread.

Wonder if i should just make a guide or something and link it to my sig.


"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal

@Caucasiafro

 

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Originally Posted by ultrawatt View Post
Wonder if i should just make a guide or something and link it to my sig.
I see what you did there.


 

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Originally Posted by MajorTractor View Post
I see what you did there.
Lol, i forgot about those >.<

I was actually being serious. :P There is A LOT of info on SS/fires for farming and content but its all spread out.


"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal

@Caucasiafro

 

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Well thats the problem as well. There is SO much info on this particular powerset combo that its really hard to know where to start. Trust me when i tell you that i spent a few hours going through all of the other threads i could find and made a build based on what i figured was best. Thus leading to this thread. How else would i know if i put it together properly if i dont ask the players with experience?


 

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I don't mean to be rude but your attempts to do it all have made your build kind of crappy at everything.
You have underslotted Ball Lightning's recharge and have very few Global recharge bonuses to compensate. Your aoe attack chain will have some serious gaps in it as a consequence which really pushes your dreams of being a decent farmer out the window.
Secondly, you have used a lot of expensive IOs and a lot of slots to get yourself a fairly average amount of defense. That defense isn't game breaking. You don't even really need it at all unless you plan on main tanking and if that is the intention, you will not succeed. I'd be fairly confident my pure farmer would be more survivable in regular content due to the fact that everything around her is dead.
Corpses generally don't attack and therefore I don't need defense.

Lastly, don't 6 slot Rise of the Phoenix. Just don't...


 

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"you have very few global recharge bonuses"

You DID look at my build right? Im at work right now but off the top of my head i have 4 LoTG recharges and 3 or 4 set bonuses to global recharge and im *this* close to perma hasten. If thats not very much, please tell me what is...? FYI my rotation is burn>footstomp>fences>ball lightning and with testing on my build which is barely half done in game it is rare that one of those isnt up anytime.

Like i mentioned, much of my in game build is still lvl 50 SOs and im runnin 2/8 without breakin a sweat. You honestly think this build is junk?


 

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Originally Posted by Kor_El View Post
You honestly think this build is junk?
i would never use that build, you either slot to run in AE which is 20% fire def and everything else is recharge

or

you slot for pve content which is either 45%s/l or 32.5% s/l/e/n

thats what the second build is for -.-


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Sorry I may have misspoke.
I don't think your build is junk, I think it is sub-optimal at both farming and regular content. It is very middle of the road which is pretty much what you were going for so kudos.

Just one thing, before Hasten is taken into account, you have 67.5% recharge. That is fairly average for regular content and perfectly acceptable but for farming it is a little small. Comparing it to my own build though, I don't think it is too small. If you slot a little more recharge in your powers it should get you a seamless aoe chain and if not seamless, it will be very close. To get close you need to get a 6th IO in Ball Lightning and make it a straight up recharge IO.
Also as a side note, after taking another look I have noticed that yout slotting for both Ball Lightning and Elec Fences are a little off. You are using the Dam/Range IO over the chance for damage proc. They aren't cones and you don't care about the range, you are also still in the red with that the damage portion of that IO. You are giving up your proc for what amounts to a single digit damage increase.