Designing my first SG Base


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Hi there!

I'm messing around with the Base Editor and using paragonwiki to figure how much space will I need, how much stuff will cost, etc . . .

Question: Can I put the Secure Portal Room (Largest Teleport Room) in a Hidden Plot or does it have to be a Secure Plot?


 

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You are fine to put in your TP room on a Hidden Plot.
I believe you can put any room on a Hidden Plot.

The big difference between the two plot types is that the Secure Plot allows you to put two power & control units in (plus the combo unit specific to the oversight room). The Hidden Plot only allows one of each.

Have you checked out Mad Scientist's old spreadsheet? Some of the prestige costs for plots are no longer applicable, but otherwise the room & plot stats haven't changed.

Side note: Another limitation, regardless of plot size or type, is the storage item limit of 18... total (racks, enhancie tables, inspie bins, & storage vault).

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Very cool. I'll take a look at Mad Scientist's spreadsheet when I get the chance.

Onward . . .

Do the Pillar of Ice and Flame and/or Mission Computer count against the maximum number of Control Aux that can be on a Mainframe?

Also, can a Raid Telepad (for Cathedral of Pain) be put in a Teleport Bay (1x2) or does the room need to be bigger?


 

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Yes they both count against control aux.

No the Raid Teleporter is Huge and needs about a t 2x2 space.


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First, if you're looking for help layout out the base (how to arrange the rooms, I suggest you look here.

Now the designer actually comes up with a decent base layout for maximizing telepads. But if you're looking for crafting and a hospital point too, it's not so great.

But yes, you can shoehorn a 5x5 into the free plot. Here's my recommended layout for that.



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Very cool! I've got the layout all set. I used an 8x12 Hidden Plot because I want TPs to everywhere. After a week of crunching numbers on paragonwiki, I've got it set up so I don't waste a single point of Energy or Control. All but 21 of the 96 squares on the Hidden Plot are used. I just need 3 Million Prestige (and the SuperComputer badge) and I'll be all set. Upkeep per month will 500 Prestige. 1 Enhancement Table and 4 Salvage Racks. Not bad.

I'll post a pic of the layout when I can.

Edit: Hopefully this works.

Here's my layout:

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...rgroupBase.jpg


P= Entrance Portal Room
C= Control Room
CoP= 2x2 TP Bay for Cathedral of Pain Telepad
E= Energy Room
W= Workshop
I= Infirmary
T= Teleport Rooms.
D= Door (of course)

The 3x3 Teleport Room can hold 3 Telepads. These will be for the zones that I scarcely travel to (Eden, Boomtown, Pocket D (I got a Temp Power for that one). Not sure which others I'll pick for that room, but now you know what I'm doing.

What do you think?


 

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So I'm starting to add rooms. After placing the Control Room, I have about 118000 Prestige remaining but when I go to place the 2x2 Teleport Room (cost: 100000 Prestige) for the Raid Telepad, the game tells me that I don't have enough infamy.

I'm on the Hero side. Infamy? WTF?


 

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Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
So I'm starting to add rooms. After placing the Control Room, I have about 118000 Prestige remaining but when I go to place the 2x2 Teleport Room (cost: 100000 Prestige) for the Raid Telepad, the game tells me that I don't have enough infamy.

I'm on the Hero side. Infamy? WTF?
There has always been a significant lag on prestige costs and sometimes it gets its knickers in a twist. I think logging usually solves the issue. Can be a real pain when you are trying to switch between configurations though


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I just need 3 Million Prestige (and the SuperComputer badge) and I'll be all set.
... I will match anything up to 200 million inf should you wish to turn inf into prestige .(my 200M + your 200M = 400 M inf = 800K prestige.) @Boltcutter in game, send me a tell so I know your global and I'll email you the inf.


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... I will match anything up to 200 million inf should you wish to turn inf into prestige .(my 200M + your 200M = 400 M inf = 800K prestige.) @Boltcutter in game, send me a tell so I know your global and I'll email you the inf.
Thank you for the offer, but I'll probably just use one of those 'Get 1 Billion Influence for $7.99' deals. Thanks again for the offer though.

Also, about the Base Editor not allowing me to place a 100,000 Prestige room when I had 118,000 Prestige, it turns out that Jagged was right. When I logged back in to continue working on my Base, I only had approx 94,000 Prestige. That's why it wouldn't let me place the room.

Still can't figure out why it said 'Infamy' instead of Prestige though.


 

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Thank you for the offer, but I'll probably just use one of those 'Get 1 Billion Influence for $7.99' deals.
That is prohibited. If you get caught, your account will be permanently banned.


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That is prohibited. If you get caught, your account will be permanently banned.
Seriously? Then why are they allowed to advertise in-game? I get in-game email all the time.

I is confused.

Maybe I'll get lucky and get a purple drop to pay for the whole thing.

A guy can dream, I guess . . .


 

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Seriously? Then why are they allowed to advertise in-game? I get in-game email all the time.
They aren't allowed, but they do it anyway. They create an account, PL a character to level 10 so they can send mail, spam like mad, then delete the character.


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Seriously?
As a heart attack. Hell, serious as a heart attack in the middle of a stroke while falling off the Empire State Building into a spike-laced flaming pool of nuclear waste.

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Then why are they allowed to advertise in-game?
They're NOT "allowed" to. The only reason these groups get away with it is that there are more of them than there are eyes to watch the game. But, when they're reported, they're booted. Most of them are sweatshops in various far-eastern countries with dozens of "throwaway" accounts grinding to make inf that gets fed back to a distributor.

You don't want sweatshop labor making your Nikes. Why the heck would you want it making fake money in a game for you?

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I get in-game email all the time.
Delete it. Not only is it enticing you to an illicit activity, it's also a possible vector for malware, and if nothing else, let's them know that your e-mail account is good, putting you on a list they can sell to spammers.

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I is confused.
Paragon Studios (and NCSoft) don't allow 3rd party "gold sellers" in the game. They don't let them get mentioned by name in the forums. They want nothing to do with such a nasty market.

Yet it persists.

Why? Because some dumb slob is too lazy to just go out and play a damn game?

Note: Not calling YOU a dumb slob. You just didn't know any better. Now you do.

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Maybe I'll get lucky and get a purple drop to pay for the whole thing.
Put an eyeball on the marketing forum. It's quite educational and can help alleviate any money crunch you might be feeling. And who knows? You might fool around and get rich!



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This is off-topic, of course, but is there a TF that gives a better chance of getting a purple drop? How about a Hami Raid or a Rikti Mothership Raid?

I checked with paragonwiki, and it says that 'any Level 47 critter has a chance of dropping a purple. Giant Monsters, Monsters, and Underlings NEVER drop a purple.' Is this accurate?


 

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This is off-topic, of course, but is there a TF that gives a better chance of getting a purple drop? How about a Hami Raid or a Rikti Mothership Raid?

I checked with paragonwiki, and it says that 'any Level 47 critter has a chance of dropping a purple. Giant Monsters, Monsters, and Underlings NEVER drop a purple.' Is this accurate?

Nope. Purple drops are completely random when fighting enemies capable of dropping purples.

From the ParagonWiki.

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Any critter that is capable of dropping a level 50 IO has a chance to drop a "purple". This includes, but is not limited to, level 47 minions, level 46 lieutenants, and etcetera. Giant Monsters, Monsters, and Underlings will never drop a "purple".
Hami Raids DO give you the option of taking a random Hamidon Origin enhancement. Some of those are worth a pretty penny.



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The math for any given kill doesn't change based on mission or location. The only way to increase your chances of a purple drop is to increase the number of enemies you take out. Ergo, you should seek out anything that pits you against large numbers of enemies. This has the side effect of also providing you with proportionately large amounts of standard inf/prestige rewards and lots of other sellable salvage and recipes.