Icy Bastion for Scrapper Ice Armor
If only Ice Armor werent the ugliest Armor set in game
You can minimize the blocky look it quite a bit. Tunnel Rat said she'd like to do an update to the look of Ice Armor, so here's hoping she gets the chance!
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I'd trade my Ice Tanker's Hibernate for Icy Bastion in a heartbeat. *wistful sigh*
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Well, personally, I never had a doubt that Scrappers wouldn't get Icy Bastion as well, when it got ported over to Scrappers (Brutes can go either way, but they lack Hibernate in the Epics, so they should likely have Hibernate).
However, it looks like a good power to me
-DMG, Slows, Softcapped defenses, +Heal/+HP power, and when things start to go south, a nice power that grants what looks to be some pretty decent Resists
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I'm ignorant when it comes to playing the Tanker AT. Do you feel that most Tanks (like 90% of them) would trade Hibernate for Icy Bastion?
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However, because of the NoPhase in Hibernate, I would say that IB would be better for the set. If Hibernate didn't have NoPhase, Hibernate would be better, IMO.
EDIT: But on scrappers you can have both and be nigh indestructible lol
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
It's a lot of fun. I have a Level 50 Spines/Ice Stalker using only SOs and Spiritual Alpha on the Beta server and was not having much problem kicking butt at all. Icy Bastion is a panic button that practically costs nothing - no crash and only 2.6 Endurance! What I love the most about Ice Armor is that it is a Defense set that has toggle Status Protection and a Damage Aura. Obviously not for Stalkers on the second part, but definitely for Scrappers!
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Is it enhanceable?
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
Do you feel that most Tanks (like 90% of them) would trade Hibernate for Icy Bastion?
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But to me, Icy Bastion's +recovery, +regeneration, and +resistance are all more appealing since I don't have to be completely immobile and unable to affect others in order to benefit from it. And even Icy Bastion's extra mez protection can be useful for those times that you're up against mobs that use mez powers that you're vulnerable to (e.g. Carnie Illusionists' stacked Blinds *shudder*).
Anyway, if both powers were available to Tankers, I'd try to fit both in. But if I could only choose one, I'd definitely go with Icy Bastion. Hibernate is an awesome panic button, but I could always just craft an Ethereal Shift temp power for that.
Winteriel Ice/Fire/Soul Tanker | @TBoxer Global | City of Heroes R.I.P. (2004-2012)
So I'm wondering if you have a high Recharge build, how often would we be able to use this ability? When I do get my Spines/Ice Scrapper up to 50 I plan on taking Spiritual Alpha.
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Yes. If you Enhance the Resist as close to 100% as you can you'll get around 55% Resist to All (except for Psi). Enhancing the Regeneration should be really significant, about 800% Regeneration if I'm correct. The Endurance Recovery is nice but I'd be going for Recharge, Resist, and Heal Enhancement for this ability.
So I'm wondering if you have a high Recharge build, how often would we be able to use this ability? When I do get my Spines/Ice Scrapper up to 50 I plan on taking Spiritual Alpha. |
For a more realistic perspective I altered this same build to have the same recharge my Ice/Ice/Soul tank has - 82.5% global - 152.5% with Hasten.
The result? 87s. 79s with T4 Spiritual Core. That's pretty badass and it would certainly get way more use than Hibernate would on a Tank. I don't think stalkers/scrappers would be able to get that without purples because they would have to use a couple extra sets to softcap compared to what tanker Ice has to use.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
I would definitely be getting purple sets for my Spines/Ice. 79s for it to Recharge, while being a 30s buff is incredible!
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I would definitely be getting purple sets for my Spines/Ice. 79s for it to Recharge, while being a 30s buff is incredible!
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What are the base defense numbers on your stalker? I'm curious to figure out what's needed to softcap Ice on a non tanker.
For a tank you just need well slotted FA, GA, and Weave, Tough 4 slotted with Reactive Armors, CJ or Hover, and a steadfast IO. This gets you 42.5% and you just need a couple attack sets to finish the road to 45%.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
I'll have to look it up to get the exact numbers, but my SO-only Stalker build was getting slightly over 42% Defense to S/L/E/N after double stacking Energy Absorption - and boy is it easy to double stack that power! I did a +0/x8 Circle of Thorns mission and had no issues surviving. I'll try +4/x8 later, as this was just testing the waters with a SO only build. I am using the Tier 4 Spiritual Alpha though. The very one I plan on getting when Spines/Ice is finally possible for Scrappers.
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Yes, EA is ridiculous like that.
Thanks for the info. I just haven't had any time to hop on Test to check things out.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
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SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
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but EA has energy drain which is now a copy of energy absorption. So it IS ridiculous o.O
I think I got my level bump last night, so I'm gonna test my StJ/EA or Elec/EA after work. Should be interesting
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
I checked through MIDS for Icy Bastion but couldnt' find it. Where does it currently exist? Or is it a totally new power? Sort of an Ice Armor version of MOG?
Never mind ....
Ice Armor for Stalkers
We chose Ice Armor this time around as it was a fun and thematically interesting power set and it was the only option that didnt require substantial art time. Since our talented artists are working their rear ends off making content in Issue 21 shine, this round of Power Set Proliferation required that there would be no art time used. Ice Armor had to have some changes made to make it compatible with the Stalker play style. First we removed Icicles to make room for Hide and then we removed Hibernate and replaced it with Icy Bastion. This change was made because Stalkers already have access to Hibernate from their Leviathan Patron Pool. The new power Icy Bastion is a click power that provides a short, but significant, burst of Resistance, Regeneration and Recovery.
Yep, it's a new power. An awesome one at that!
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I might have to reroll my elec/nin as elec/ice regardless of my feelings towards using a set multiple times lol.
What are the base defense numbers on your stalker? I'm curious to figure out what's needed to softcap Ice on a non tanker. For a tank you just need well slotted FA, GA, and Weave, Tough 4 slotted with Reactive Armors, CJ or Hover, and a steadfast IO. This gets you 42.5% and you just need a couple attack sets to finish the road to 45%. |
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Managed to get on the beta server. Base defense for FA/GA is 12.75% and Wet Ice gives 0.75%.
FA/GA slotted with 4 pieces of LotG (+rech, Def, Def/End, Def/End/Rech) gives 20.1%
Weave slotted the same way gives 5.91%
Hide and CJ with just a LotG: Rech gives 2.17% each.
That's 30.35%. Toss in a steadfast for 3% and 4 pieces of Reactive in Tough for 1.25.
34.6%. 4 more pieces of Reactive in IB for another 1.25% = 35.85%
36.6% total with Wet Ice added in.
So you need another 9% from attack sets in order to softcap. These numbers are below what I was expecting.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
During today's Ustream (38:00 time mark), Synapse clarified that when Scrappers get Ice Armor that they would probably get Icy Bastion for their Tier 9 ability. This is because Scrappers share the same Patron Power Pools as Stalkers, and those two ATs already have access to Hibernate through Leviathan Mastery.
I am seriously stoked! Icy Bastion is something I would use regularly without hesitation on an Ice Armor Scrapper! Here are the stats from the Stalker version of Icy Bastion, as used by a Level 50: