Icy Bastion for Scrapper Ice Armor


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During today's Ustream (38:00 time mark), Synapse clarified that when Scrappers get Ice Armor that they would probably get Icy Bastion for their Tier 9 ability. This is because Scrappers share the same Patron Power Pools as Stalkers, and those two ATs already have access to Hibernate through Leviathan Mastery.

I am seriously stoked! Icy Bastion is something I would use regularly without hesitation on an Ice Armor Scrapper! Here are the stats from the Stalker version of Icy Bastion, as used by a Level 50:

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Activation Time:       1.17s
Recharge Time:         5m 0s
Endurance Cost:        2.60

100.00 knockback protection for 30.00s on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable

1000.00% resistance to knockback for 30.00s on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable

100.00 knockup protection for 30.00s on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable

1000.00% resistance to knockup for 30.00s on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements.
unresistable

100.00 repel protection for 30.00s on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable

1000.00% resistance to repel for 30.00s on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable

17.30 stun protection for 30.00s on self
unresistable

17.30 hold protection for 30.00s on self
unresistable

17.30 sleep protection for 30.00s on self
unresistable

20.76 immobilize protection for 30.00s on self
unresistable

+200.00% recovery rate for 30.00s on self
unresistable

37.50% resistance to smashing damage for 30.00s on self
unresistable

37.50% resistance to lethal damage for 30.00s on self
unresistable

37.50% resistance to fire damage for 30.00s on self
unresistable

37.50% resistance to cold damage for 30.00s on self
unresistable

37.50% resistance to energy damage for 30.00s on self
unresistable

37.50% resistance to negative energy damage for 30.00s on self
unresistable

37.50% resistance to toxic damage for 30.00s on self
unresistable

+400.00% regeneration rate for 30.00s on self
unresistable


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If only Ice Armor werent the ugliest Armor set in game


 

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You can minimize the blocky look it quite a bit. Tunnel Rat said she'd like to do an update to the look of Ice Armor, so here's hoping she gets the chance!


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I'd trade my Ice Tanker's Hibernate for Icy Bastion in a heartbeat. *wistful sigh*


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Well, personally, I never had a doubt that Scrappers wouldn't get Icy Bastion as well, when it got ported over to Scrappers (Brutes can go either way, but they lack Hibernate in the Epics, so they should likely have Hibernate).

However, it looks like a good power to me

-DMG, Slows, Softcapped defenses, +Heal/+HP power, and when things start to go south, a nice power that grants what looks to be some pretty decent Resists


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I'd trade my Ice Tanker's Hibernate for Icy Bastion in a heartbeat. *wistful sigh*
I'm ignorant when it comes to playing the Tanker AT. Do you feel that most Tanks (like 90% of them) would trade Hibernate for Icy Bastion?


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I'm ignorant when it comes to playing the Tanker AT. Do you feel that most Tanks (like 90% of them) would trade Hibernate for Icy Bastion?
I think the tanker set would be fine either way. While IB would help you live longer, you could still die and get debuffed. Hibernate is great in that you can get debuffed to hell and back and just nap it off for a few seconds.

However, because of the NoPhase in Hibernate, I would say that IB would be better for the set. If Hibernate didn't have NoPhase, Hibernate would be better, IMO.

EDIT: But on scrappers you can have both and be nigh indestructible lol


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It's a lot of fun. I have a Level 50 Spines/Ice Stalker using only SOs and Spiritual Alpha on the Beta server and was not having much problem kicking butt at all. Icy Bastion is a panic button that practically costs nothing - no crash and only 2.6 Endurance! What I love the most about Ice Armor is that it is a Defense set that has toggle Status Protection and a Damage Aura. Obviously not for Stalkers on the second part, but definitely for Scrappers!


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Is it enhanceable?


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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards View Post
Do you feel that most Tanks (like 90% of them) would trade Hibernate for Icy Bastion?
Honestly, I have no idea. But speaking for myself, I know that I would. Don't get me wrong though, Hibernate is a great power to have when you need it. It's just that at level 50 with a fully mature build, that isn't often. And as Infini mentioned, its usefulness is further diminished by the NoPhase timer. But while leveling up, Hibernate can be very handy for those instances when you bite off more than you can chew (especially while PuG'ing).

But to me, Icy Bastion's +recovery, +regeneration, and +resistance are all more appealing since I don't have to be completely immobile and unable to affect others in order to benefit from it. And even Icy Bastion's extra mez protection can be useful for those times that you're up against mobs that use mez powers that you're vulnerable to (e.g. Carnie Illusionists' stacked Blinds *shudder*).

Anyway, if both powers were available to Tankers, I'd try to fit both in. But if I could only choose one, I'd definitely go with Icy Bastion. Hibernate is an awesome panic button, but I could always just craft an Ethereal Shift temp power for that.


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Is it enhanceable?
Yes. If you Enhance the Resist as close to 100% as you can you'll get around 55% Resist to All (except for Psi). Enhancing the Regeneration should be really significant, about 800% Regeneration if I'm correct. The Endurance Recovery is nice but I'd be going for Recharge, Resist, and Heal Enhancement for this ability.

So I'm wondering if you have a high Recharge build, how often would we be able to use this ability? When I do get my Spines/Ice Scrapper up to 50 I plan on taking Spiritual Alpha.


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Yes. If you Enhance the Resist as close to 100% as you can you'll get around 55% Resist to All (except for Psi). Enhancing the Regeneration should be really significant, about 800% Regeneration if I'm correct. The Endurance Recovery is nice but I'd be going for Recharge, Resist, and Heal Enhancement for this ability.

So I'm wondering if you have a high Recharge build, how often would we be able to use this ability? When I do get my Spines/Ice Scrapper up to 50 I plan on taking Spiritual Alpha.
I had an emp/arch build I looked at for the numbers. AB's base recharge is the same as IB's (300s). This particular build has 197.5% global recharge and AB has 91.78% recharge enhancement (5 doctored wounds). This brings the recharge down to 77s. With Spiritual Core T4 it's down to 70s. That's pretty significant but I doubt you'd be able to get that much recharge into the build.

For a more realistic perspective I altered this same build to have the same recharge my Ice/Ice/Soul tank has - 82.5% global - 152.5% with Hasten.

The result? 87s. 79s with T4 Spiritual Core. That's pretty badass and it would certainly get way more use than Hibernate would on a Tank. I don't think stalkers/scrappers would be able to get that without purples because they would have to use a couple extra sets to softcap compared to what tanker Ice has to use.


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I would definitely be getting purple sets for my Spines/Ice. 79s for it to Recharge, while being a 30s buff is incredible!


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I would definitely be getting purple sets for my Spines/Ice. 79s for it to Recharge, while being a 30s buff is incredible!
I might have to reroll my elec/nin as elec/ice regardless of my feelings towards using a set multiple times lol.

What are the base defense numbers on your stalker? I'm curious to figure out what's needed to softcap Ice on a non tanker.

For a tank you just need well slotted FA, GA, and Weave, Tough 4 slotted with Reactive Armors, CJ or Hover, and a steadfast IO. This gets you 42.5% and you just need a couple attack sets to finish the road to 45%.


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I'll have to look it up to get the exact numbers, but my SO-only Stalker build was getting slightly over 42% Defense to S/L/E/N after double stacking Energy Absorption - and boy is it easy to double stack that power! I did a +0/x8 Circle of Thorns mission and had no issues surviving. I'll try +4/x8 later, as this was just testing the waters with a SO only build. I am using the Tier 4 Spiritual Alpha though. The very one I plan on getting when Spines/Ice is finally possible for Scrappers.


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Yes, EA is ridiculous like that.

Thanks for the info. I just haven't had any time to hop on Test to check things out.


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Yes, EA is ridiculous like that.
Energy Aura? But I'm talking about Ice Armor!

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Thanks for the info. I just haven't had any time to hop on Test to check things out.
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Energy Aura? But I'm talking about Ice Armor!


Welcome!
EA = Energy Absorption. Acronyms are doubly silly. haha


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but EA has energy drain which is now a copy of energy absorption. So it IS ridiculous o.O
I think I got my level bump last night, so I'm gonna test my StJ/EA or Elec/EA after work. Should be interesting


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but EA has energy drain which is now a copy of energy absorption. So it IS ridiculous o.O
I think I got my level bump last night, so I'm gonna test my StJ/EA or Elec/EA after work. Should be interesting
Yes I'm quite excited for the new EA, too. Energy Drain should have worked like Energy Absorption from the start, IMO.


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The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)

 

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I checked through MIDS for Icy Bastion but couldnt' find it. Where does it currently exist? Or is it a totally new power? Sort of an Ice Armor version of MOG?

Never mind ....

Ice Armor for Stalkers

We chose Ice Armor this time around as it was a fun and thematically interesting power set and it was the only option that didn’t require substantial art time. Since our talented artists are working their rear ends off making content in Issue 21 shine, this round of Power Set Proliferation required that there would be no art time used. Ice Armor had to have some changes made to make it compatible with the Stalker play style. First we removed Icicles to make room for Hide and then we removed Hibernate and replaced it with Icy Bastion. This change was made because Stalkers already have access to Hibernate from their Leviathan Patron Pool. The new power Icy Bastion is a click power that provides a short, but significant, burst of Resistance, Regeneration and Recovery.


 

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I might have to reroll my elec/nin as elec/ice regardless of my feelings towards using a set multiple times lol.

What are the base defense numbers on your stalker? I'm curious to figure out what's needed to softcap Ice on a non tanker.

For a tank you just need well slotted FA, GA, and Weave, Tough 4 slotted with Reactive Armors, CJ or Hover, and a steadfast IO. This gets you 42.5% and you just need a couple attack sets to finish the road to 45%.
So I've looked it up and with only using SOs, I am at 28.74% Defense to S/L/E/N. This is with the Ice Armor toggles, Combat Jumping, and Weave.


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Managed to get on the beta server. Base defense for FA/GA is 12.75% and Wet Ice gives 0.75%.

FA/GA slotted with 4 pieces of LotG (+rech, Def, Def/End, Def/End/Rech) gives 20.1%

Weave slotted the same way gives 5.91%

Hide and CJ with just a LotG: Rech gives 2.17% each.

That's 30.35%. Toss in a steadfast for 3% and 4 pieces of Reactive in Tough for 1.25.

34.6%. 4 more pieces of Reactive in IB for another 1.25% = 35.85%

36.6% total with Wet Ice added in.

So you need another 9% from attack sets in order to softcap. These numbers are below what I was expecting.


SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)