NPC Redesign.


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OK, first of all this is all COMPLETELY UNOFFICIAL. This is just a For Fun thread about using the standard Costume Creator to re-create several NPC's in the game.

I figured I'd try my hand at some trolls.



OK, not that kind of troll, but this one:



So, for this particular troll, the Trollkin Gunner, I came up with:



 

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I'd say go with a more hostile face and change the skin color to a more pale green.


 

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I'd also say, if you can open up the AE editor, to use the Council SMG or the Military Assault Rifle to keep in line with them ultimately being a street gang.
I will admit that I do like the hostile face with the five 'o' clock shadow, it helps make the Trolls look older like City of lore insists the gang members are.* I also gotta agree that maybe a paler green should be used.

*Easy to see Tsoo, Family, Family, Arachnos (even though I imagine Lord Recluse doesn't mind Child Soldiers), and Sky Raiders in their, but I can never shake the mental profiling of Freakshow, Warriors, Hellions. Outcasts, and Trolls consisting of a lot of men as young as their latter teenage years to maybe mid-thirties tops.


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Working on some re-designs, but I need to wait before I can post screenies. I decided to re-do the entire group.

It is difficult to recreate the Lieutenant and boss faces without proper troll parts, but I used the Demonic Face and Thorns horn detail to copy the faces. It was the best I could do.

For the rest, most of the costume pieces are fairly straightforeward.

I chose a paler green for the troll's skin. I was also disappointed that there is no Shotgun weapon option. That is very saddening


 

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OK, here goes:






 

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The problem that I have with this picture shows me that we need real SupaTroll, and just the lt and boss Troll horns, versus the limited horn selection that we have in-game now.

The female only option of Lil devil horns comes closest, but yeah, we need the actual troll horns


 

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The female only option of Lil devil horns comes closest, but yeah, we need the actual troll horns
I actually think Brow Spike works vaguely well. Not perfect certainly but it doesn't come off as bad as some options.


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We also can't use NPC weapon models, like two handed hammers and shotguns.
Makes me a sad evil robot


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We also can't use NPC weapon models, like two handed hammers and shotguns.
Makes me a sad evil robot
Very ironic when you consider that the SoA have a Shotgun model despite them lacking any shotgun powers compares to assault rifle.


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We also can't use NPC weapon models, like two handed hammers and shotguns.
Makes me a sad evil robot
Ah, but we can! There's a shotgun temp power that you can snag from side missions in the Safeguards and Mayhems. I believe there's also a holy shotgun temp power in one of the Striga missions as well. And pretty much anyone can snag a sledgehammer recipe(I believe the recipe is called Gabriel's Hammer) fairly easily off the Auction house, as it uses the two-handed hammer swing. Same goes for the St. Louis Slugger recipe, two-handed bat swing.

I wish they'd expand the temp weapon recipes to include a Shotgun recipe, if we wanted one on a regular basis.


 

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I think I finally put my finger on why your Troll designs bother me (I didn't want to criticise until I had something constructive to say). Turns out it's a pretty simple reason - their clothes look too clean, too new and too good. The vivid colours you're using speak more to fashion-conscious, teens who put on bombastic outfits because they looked good, as opposed to brain-dead thugs who probably sleep in their clothes.

I think this should be fairly easy to fix, though - simply pick much more washed-out colours, especially for the jeans. "Blue" jeans are only really blue when you first buy them, but the longer you wear them, the more they wear out and turn white. Leather jackets, as well, should be paler and more washed-out, simulating dusty, dirty leather that's drying up and cracking up. Failing that, try picking very dark colours. Not quite black, but dark brown pants or a dark blue shirt are better at giving off a menacing vibe as opposed to bright, contrasting primary colours.

Beyond that, though, I like your designs.


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If I was going to re-design the trolls, I'd want to keep the "Gang of crazy roid-freak teens" thing while maybe playing up the "Victims of chemical abuse" angle as well.


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